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Old 03-28-2006, 12:49 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Maggs whining again!

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Yamaneko & qrichfan are bonafide Maggette-haters... both still swinging on Artest's nuts too.
I can only speak for myself, but i wouldnt call calling facts "hating" on a person. Tell me what have I said that can constitute me "hating" Maggette? Have i said we should release him? No. Have I said that I think that he definately should NOT be starting now, with or w/o mobley injured? No. Have I said we should trade maggs for crap? No. In this thread i complained about maggs "whining" again. As I said, im not even saying i DISAGREE 100% with that he should start over ross. But , i DO disagree 100% with him doing what he did in the media. Its just not professional. It messes up team unity especially with some of the things he said. If youd like to argue that what he did actually helps the team, im all ears for your reasoning.

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Maggette is the best SF (& probably SG) on the team, plain and simple. I don't care what "match up" crap Dunleavy has on his mind, you don't sit the co-captain of the team and disrespect him like that.
Well first of all, again im not saying 100% he shouldnt start. But you have to be able to see both sides of the equation here. First, hes still getting big minutes. Second, the Clippers for the most part are winning with this lineup. Third, hes not a superstar that you have to start even if hes off his game. Fourth, he still is very streaky...3 great plays in a row, then 5 terrible ones. Dont get me wrong, hes kind of like kaman IMO...his worst is still better than most of what the team has to offer. But you have to be able to at least UNDERSTAND why dunleavvy is doing what he is doing, even though you might not agree with it. Dunleavvy wants defense, he wants team ball, etc. etc. Wilcox didnt get PT under Dun because of his lapses and lack of rotations, etc., and now maggette isnt starting until he can get back into shape and start doing more of those things too. Not to mention the incredible offensive advantage we have with maggs coming in agasint the second team.

Now again, dont put words in my mouth, im not saying that i wouldnt start maggs now, im just saying i see where dun is coming from, hes just being the same dun he always has been.

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both still swinging on Artest's nuts too.
What do you call swinging on artest's nuts? Saying hes a great defensive player? Imagining what he would have done for us, when at the time he would have replaced Ross in the lineup, as opposed to him having an impact in Sactown even though he replaced an all star? These are very valid points, if saying them is swinging on someones nuts, then let me be the first to swing away, because to me its just stating the obvious unless you want to dispute artests DPOY award, dispute ross as actually better than Artest, or dispute Sactowns record since he got there.

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Dunleavy definitely plays favorites instead of doing what's best for the team, tell me why else McCarty gets more time than Singleton?
Im the first to question dunleavvy's rotations in the losses. IMO, there are direct correlations to our losses and bad streaks, with some terrible substitution patterns, but lately i havent seen much to complain about to my surprise.

Do i think the clippers should give him a 10 year extension or something? No. I really think we could be doing better than we are. Look at the Suns who dont nearly have the talent the clippers do, yet look at their record. Thats what a good coach does. Dunleavvy stresses some things i think too much. But you cant fault him for bringing maggs off of the bench with the record we have lately. maggs stil plays the same minutes he probably would anyway if he started.
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