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Originally Posted by Diable
I saw all the guys I mentioned.What I said is the consenus among people who have actually watched ACC basketball over the period.There have been a very good number of ACC players who were demonstrably better than Jordan in college.As college players Phil Ford and David Thompson both made Jordan look mediocre and that is just the to beginning of the list.Jordan was a very good college player and nothing more.
Hakeem Olajuwon went first in the draft and then Sam Bowie was drafted.Do you think the immortal MJ would have been passed over for a guy like Sam Bowie?No...He wasn't anything of the sort coming out of college and absolutely noone knew what he would become at that point.Below the neck Len Bias was every bit as good a player as Jordan and he played like a superstar in college.Noone has any clue whether or not Bias could have approached him because he poisoned himself with cocaine,but anyone who watched both would know who was the better college player. |
i saw the guys you mentioned as well, and jordan was the better college player. he was the leading player on the #1 team in the country, and he was national player of the year. bias wasn't. bias wasn't consensus 2nd team as a soph, and was only consensus 1st team as a junior. jordan was sporting news poty 2 times, and consensus 2x 1st team all-american.
The ACC's 50th Anniversary Top 10 Male Athletes are listed below:
ACC Top 10 Male Athletes
1. Michael Jordan............ North Carolina
2. David Thompson......... NC State
3. Charlie Ward................ Florida State
4. Arnold Palmer.............. Wake Forest
5. Randy White................. Maryland
6. Ralph Sampson........... Virginia
7. Lawrence Taylor........... North Carolina
8. Tim Duncan................... Wake Forest
9. Phil Ford......................... North Carolina
10. Renaldo Nehemiah... Maryland
that was voted by the acc.
you're just wrong about a list of guys who made him look mediocre.
there was another list, top 100 ncaa players ever and jordan was 13, bias 39, ford 25 and thompson 7.
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the point on bias getting drafted behind daugherty was that the expectations weren't that he was potentially going to be the best ever. we know what jordan became, so it's irrelevant what he was projected to be (and obviously he was expected to be very good). with bias, all we have is his projection. we're talking about whether he could have been greater than jordan was, not whether he was expected to be better than jordan was expected to be at the time.
and spare me the "anyone who watched..." stuff.
bias was a different player. he wasn't a guard. he was a forward. he didn't have jordan's quickness or ballhandling. he was like dominique wilkins combined with terry cummings.