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Originally Posted by pac4eva5
come on mayne. in a league where bigs win championships, its fair to say MJ was in a whole nother league. players like hakeem wouldnt be as great if mj never retired. malone would have a ring. barkley would have one. so on and so on. id bet my life bigs like duncan and ben wallace and shaq would be not as great as they are now if they played in mjs era. kobe is lucky to be so young. put him in mjs era and he is a great player...but no legend.
imagine mj with a decent big, let alone shaq! seriously, taking away pippen isnt as big as taking away shaq. kobe will NEVER win a ring again...
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thats my point dude, pippen is the most underrated player of all time. this is what people dont get i'm not taking anything away from jordan... i'm just saying Pippen is way underrated.
all i am saying is we are judging how good of player everyone is without fully realizing that jordon would have never been imortalized without a deferring hall of famer by his side. The thing is you give all these other stars a chance to play with pippen where its kobe or barkley or whoever..... and then these stars would be glorified.
Now i'm not trying to say Kobe is better than Jordan... thats just not the point i'm trying to make, before anyone says that he has to win some championships without Shaq.
But Kobe will be a legend.... even if he never wins another ring. As for Shaq, I look at it backwards compared to a lot of people... because I remember how much talent hes had around him... and still not winning championships (before Wade and Bryant came along of course). The missed free throws and being out of shape that has plagued his career (that and I believe he also used roids) really means I probably shouldnt say much more than that.... besides then somebody would just tell me to get off chamberlains jock (best center of all time!)