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Old 11-02-2006, 11:07 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Re: Underrated/Overrated Greats

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Originally Posted by Minstrel
Personally, I don't think it's too debateable. His PERs aren't exceptional, he doesn't get upgraded any for defense and he was entirely one-dimensional (unexceptional rebounder or passer), yet not even his biggest supporters would suggest he was a fantastic, or all-time great, scorer.

And it's highly arguable as to whether his PERs were helped or hurt by playing on the Showtime Lakers. He may have been second- or third-option for while, but in an offense that played at tremendous pace and produced lots of opportunities for everyone, by design.

Do you really believe that without the aura of the Showtime Lakers (say he had played out his career on the 1980s Kings) he would have been seriously considered for the Hall of Fame?
I don't really know what to make of HOF discussions anymore once Dumars got elected. There is no set criteria to argue with particularly considering the gazillion amount of coaches who've been elected. Worthy was a better player then Dumars, he's at leaast as "worthy" as Parrish IMO and Alex English.

I still think you're underestimating Worthy, if he wasn't part of Showtime I do believe his numbers would have been better as a team's number 1 option if he didn't go to the Lakers (first overall pick in the draft). Would have those numbers been enough to make the HOF, don't know. Like I said he's similar to Alex English who did make the HOF and his numbers would be more in line with Adrian Dantley who didn't. Then again I think Dantley should be in the HOF anways.
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