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Old 11-03-2006, 12:03 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Re: Underrated/Overrated Greats

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Originally Posted by kflo
the teams were exteremly successful, yet worthy was his best teammate, with a decent dropoff from there.
I'd say Kareem was overall his best teammate, though Worthy was for a few years. But it wasn't that the team was filled with superstars. It was just a team loaded with talent top to bottom. With Magic Johnson as its central hub. I've never denied the greatness of Magic...give him good players, and he'll turn them into a machine. Abdul-Jabbar was very good to great for a while, Worthy was always very good.

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worthy's career ts% before his decline in '91 was 59%. pippen's career best was 56%. worthy's prime playoff ts% actually goes up to 60%, and pippen's is 53%. worthy was usually top 30-40, pippen usually outside the top 100. they weren't comparable scoring weapons, imo.
Maybe not in the playoffs (and I don't think anyone can explain Worthy's playoff performance...if he was capable of that level, did he slack off in the regular season?), but in the regular season numbers, they were comparable. 59% compared to 56% isn't enormous, when you consider the system Worthy was in. It also makes their TS% standings relative to their league irrelevant...the same edges Worthy got from Showtime over Pippen, he got over every other player of his generation (except teammates).

I'd say they were pretty comparable scoring weapons, with perhaps a small edge to Worthy. But Pippen had a large edge in passing. It's just not consistent to say Worthy was "as good an offensive weapon as anyone" (really? You'd place him with the likes of Jordan, Chamberlain and Abdul-Jabbar in their primes?) and Pippen was unexceptional.
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