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Originally Posted by seifer0406
You my friend, can't read.
When I say altering outcome, I am talking about whether a team will lose or win because of Tim Donaghy. From looking at this particular game, Dwight Howard getting tossed would be the main reason to why the Magic lost the game. If most of Howard's fouls were called by the other 2 officials, you can't really blame this losing factor on Tim Donaghy. The important part here is, "Did Tim Donaghy blow fouls on Dwight Howard? How many fouls did he blow on him?" If the other 2 refs blew 5 fouls on Dwight and Donaghy blew 1, how do you prove that Donaghy altered the game?
From the reports, it has already been statistically proven that the point totals from Tim Donaghy refed games were higher than regular ones. If I am not mistaken, the thread starter wanted to show that Tim Donaghy tossed Dwight Howard on purpose in order to alter the game win/loss result. And I am curious as to whether or not Donaghy actually called these fouls on Howard. But because nobody has a video of that game, we really can't tell.
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I said that already... that is the point, "Dwight Howard getting tossed would be the main reason to why the Magic lost the game"... NO S#!T!! thanks for repeating exactly what i said.
you just dont get it.
you are right about one thing though, nobody knows who blew all the whistles on dwight... but THAT was the point of the thread starter... its extremely ironic that in a game that Donaghy officiated, Dwight fouled out in 19 min. We don't know who blew those whistles, but that is the theory... that Donaghy being one of the officials, probably played a large part in getting dwight fouled out.
that stat you keep trying to throw out about the games he officiated being a higher total than others is absolutely POINTLESS. we do not care about that stat here and it has no relevance to this topic. You didn't mention that it has also been reported that they are looking back to all of their footage and other things to really find out how he changed the games. That is why the FBI is getting involved as well. Stern has stated that the NBA is going to cooperate with the FBI to find out exactly what Donaghy was doing and how he was altering the game's outcome.
i remember watching that game. It was absolutely ridiculous how Dwight was getting called for the offensive fouls just going up to the basket... The suns flopped a few times, but there were times the suns shuffled their feet a bit after dwight was bodying them up and dwight would get called. I remember dwight's reactions and i remember how even the suns were surprised by some of the calls.
bottom line: it was a fixed game... that is the topic at hand. it was a loss for the Magic and it was set up to be that way... you still haven't taken a firm stance on what you are babbling about (rule #1 of a debate).