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Originally Posted by seifer0406
I thought your claim was that his views on players are tilted because of his hatred towards certain players. I honestly don't see where you proved that, but as long as you think so, that's good enough for our purpose.
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Well, that was my claim, made after his statements of evaluative expertise. Here are his exact words...
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Originally Posted by alphaorange
I use my own judgment. I get most of them right.
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It's been my experience here that he doesn't get anything close to "most of them right". I've read chuckler after chuckler from him. He usually resorts to his "I've been coaching this game for years and know more than you so just shut up!" argument. As for my claim about his subjective likes colouring his perceptions, you can see the repeated player comps between players that have nothing in common except his like or dislike. I pulled up a bunch of them in ten minutes of work. (Mostly because I'd remembered the original mentions as they struck me so funny at the time). When I see repeated comps of dissimilar players there's a problem, when the one similarity is someone's like/dislike of the players, it's certainly fair to note that, and assume that this is the cause. You can tell me that there's some other reason for this bizarre coincidence, but I prefer the simpler theory.
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Originally Posted by seifer0406
And frankly, some of those posts you listed aren't even that ridiculous. Take the Fyre/Rose for Jones/Thomas swap picks for example, it turned out that the Knicks did find better value in Fyre by getting Randolph and unloading Francis at the same time. I don't see where the ridicule is located in this one, perhaps you can point it out more clearly.
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The only reason Frye is playing in Portland, at all, is Oden's injury. Portland was unloading Randolph, and New York could have had him for other players. David Lee would have done just as well. Hell, Renaldo Balkman would have been enough to get the deal done. The Blazers just wanted rid of Z-Bo. So, um, yeah, if the choice is between Z-Bo and a mid-lottery pick, or Z-Bo, then the first wins every single time. Neither is this defense germane to AO's claim.
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Originally Posted by seifer0406
Also the players on the Knicks roster often under-perform because of the various problems associated with the team. If Josh Smith and Childress were on the Knicks the past few seasons, god knows what kind of players they would become. The same thing can be said about Channing Fyre and Quentin Richardson. In Richardson's case, he was so effective in Phoenix and LA, and his career plummeted after he came to NY. Injuries had a lot to do with it, but the distractions and team atmosphere in NY aren't necessarily helping either. I am not saying that Josh Smith and Josh Childress won't thrive in NY, but if I'm betting on a new team that those 2 would succeed in, NY would probably be my last or 2nd to last choice.
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I'm pretty sure that the "atmosphere of NY" has nothing to do with the way Q-Rich hobbles around the court. Richardson was certainly kind of effective in his contract year (and not really as much as you're implying), he was so effective in Phoenix that they unloaded him at the first possible opportunity.
And none of this is germane to either my observations about AO's evaluative tendencies nor his defense (which amounts to "I don't care if I said it, I didn't mean what I wrote that way"). Who gives a **** how players may or may not turn in New York? It wasn't part of his game comps. And it shouldn't be. So my point stands.
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