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Originally Posted by ehmunro
The only reason Frye is playing in Portland, at all, is Oden's injury. Portland was unloading Randolph, and New York could have had him for other players. David Lee would have done just as well. Hell, Renaldo Balkman would have been enough to get the deal done. Neither is this defense germane to AO's claim.
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That is only your speculation, it really doesn't strengthen your argument in any way. If I'm not mistaken, David Lee at the time was worth about the same if not more than Fyre as Lee averaged a double double. If that's the case, I don't understand how trading Lee for Randolph is a better deal than trading Fyre for Randolph. Show me some proof about Balkman for Randolph, if not, just keep that to yourself.
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The Blazers just wanted rid of Z-Bo. So, um, yeah, if the choice is between Z-Bo and a mid-lottery pick, or Z-Bo, then the first wins every single time.
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Actually no, think about what you're comparing here. You're saying you rather trade David Lee for Z-Bo, and do the Fyre/pick switch thing? The choice is more like David Lee/Fyre, for Z-Bo and higher pick vs. Fyre for Z-bo, keep David Lee and lower pick. Tough choice here, I probably go with Z-Bo an David Lee rather than a mid lottery pick like Noah or Wright, or one of those swingman in that area. Also they are 2 separate trades. If Fyre is gone and Portland wasn't interested in Lee, you might just end up with a higher lottery pick and Lee and no Randolph.
About Fyre getting playtime in Portland. I think it's obvious that they planned to have him in the rotation from the start regardless of Oden injury. If you look at their roster, behind Oden and Aldrige, they only have Prizbilla as the backup 5, and no legitimate PF/C behind him. LaFrentz is an injury waiting to happen, Prizbilla isn't iron man himself. I don't see how it would be impossible for Fyre to get playtime there, even with Oden healthy. The Blazers aren't happy with Fyre's body right now as the Knicks made him bulk up too much while he was in NY, an example to how NY mistreats their talents. Blazers coaching staff thinks that Fyre would be more effective if he's slimmer, thus he is in the process of transforming his body and playing style.
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I'm pretty sure that the "atmosphere of NY" has nothing to do with the way Q-Rich hobbles around the court. Richardson was certainly kind of effective in his contract year (and not really as much as you're implying), he was so effective in Phoenix that they unloaded him at the first possible opportunity.
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Phoenix is notorious for their salary-cutting, they unload players in order to avoid luxury tax rather than improving their team. Kurt Thomas was effective for them last season in the playoffs, and they just gave him away along with picks, does that mean that the Suns are better off as a team without Thomas? There is no doubt that Richardson would have had a better career in Phoenix playing with Steve Nash than in NY with Marbury and under the soap opera that is Isiah Thomas. Injuries did screw him up, but the fact still stands that pretty much no player became better than they were before after they joined the Knicks in quite some time.
This really does seem off topic, but I'm just saying that some of the stuff that he said, at least the ones you listed, aren't all that ridiculous. If you really have that much time on your hand, go back in there and find a few that are truly off the mark.