this is cute but ok i'll play along.
my comments about MJ are "assinine"
ok I am a bonehead and apparently took the short bus because i dont know what I'm talkiing about .
this is what i wrote:
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MJ's killer instinct wasn't enough for him to make his high school team at 1st , he had to make the personal choices after that point that made him the player he is , the simple truth is he didn't win many basketball games at that stage in his life , in fact he himself credits his older brother Larry for honing his killer instict by virtue of the daily buttkickings he got in their backyard b-ball court until after his growth spurt allowed him something like a an 8 inch heigh advantage in MJ's jr.& sr. years in HS and he could finally beat him.
If jordan himself doesn't consider his "killer instinct" inborn how do you think you sound being so insistent that it was?
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http://www.fazeteen.com/articles/jordan.htm
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Michael's relationship with his older brother, Larry Jordan, was a key force in his early years. Larry was also a great athlete. He had the same strength, athletic ability and ambition as Michael, but Larry didn't have the build to excel in sports. Michael competed ferociously to win against his older brother when the two of them played against each other. Every day, the Jordan backyard saw some form of athletic combat between the two brothers. Larry's domination over his younger brother pushed Michael's determination to catch-up and win - and finally, one day he did. David Hart, a North Carolina team manager said, "Michael really loved Larry and talked about him all the time-he really revered him. But if Michael had gone far beyond Larry as an athlete, he never let it affect his feelings for his brother-his emotional connection and his respect for his brother were very strong. When his brother was around, he dropped all his mounting fame and his accomplishments and became nothing more than a loving, adoring younger brother."
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i know , i know who is Fazeteen.com , so here is one from Time.com.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...6692-3,00.html
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That ferocious competitive drive has propelled Jordan since his boyhood in Wilmington, N.C., where he grew up the fourth of five children in a close-knit middle-class family. Although his parents James and Deloris pushed education, not sports, Michael developed into an athlete for all seasons, successfully competing in baseball, football and basketball. Larry Jordan, one year his elder, would prove a motivating force. Though Michael eventually outpaced and outgrew Larry, who still plays semipro basketball, he credits his elder brother for his aggressive style of play. "When you see me play," he says, "you see Larry play."
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if you need more on this subject i suggest you go read "The Jordan Rules" by Sam Smith , its a good book.
that MJ got his drive from b-ball battles with his brother is such common knowledge you really should be ashamed of yourself...that time.com article is 19 years old, the fact that you want to resort to namecalling over it is something that is so hilarious I honestly cant even get mad , i have to admit I laughed quite a bit .
perhaps you can look up interviews with his parents who i have also speak on the same subject , but i dont have any off hand links to that for you...or rent some of MJ's dvd's last i checked i think Come fly with me had an interview in which he spoke of his getting cut from HS and compteting with his brother in the backyard to gain that "inborn" edge you seem so sure happened at birth.
now I can readily admit I misspoke about Bob macadoo , you are right he only won 1 MVP , but his perception as a selfish loser i wasn't wrong about it didn't change until he was a laker ...
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But then help arrived in two very unexpected forms. First came the acquisition of 30-year-old free agent Bob McAdoo, the same McAdoo who was disdained in Boston and considered a selfish problem in Detroit despite having a league MVP award and three scoring titles under his belt. Few people figured he would fit in with the Lakers, but he showed a remarkable willingness to play off the bench. Even better, he was good at it, giving the team just the scoring punch it needed at key times.
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i know its only nba.com but for now it will have to do.
http://aol.nba.com/history/finals/19811982.html
as for nash if you look at the nba predictions headed into that season , no one expected the mavs to move up as a team with their offseason moves , but without nash they became a more viable nba title contender,
but analysts actually had them going in the other direction
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...cks/index.html
http://aol.nba.com/preview2004/west_forecast.html
no one had them winning anything unlike the previous year
the simple fact of the matter was that most people thought nash and the decline of finley , plus they traded away jamison and walker would have a negative effect on the team espite whatever improvements came from other players.
in fact it showed the perception was wrong Dirk and many others thought to need nash not only didn't regress they got better Dirk in particular really impressed, he(nash) wasn't the ultimate facilitator and apparently they were better off with a pg that didn't need the ball so much and defended better and allowed Nowitzki to show he was a top player in the game and should be in the running for the top player in the game
they went from 52 to 58 wins and got a round deeper in the playoffs
find me a team that loses an MVP winner that season and gets better and i'll concede your point, in fact i'll concede them all even the ones i've already proven silly in this very post. , but its never happened ...why because if you are the most valuable player in the league , your team wouldn't get better without you ....you are the top guy..its really in the wording (most valuable) ..its pointless to belabor that point any further, either you get it or you dont...so i'll let it go and wish you well.