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Old 02-05-2008, 03:41 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Re: ELTON BRAND: With, or without?

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I'd rather see an inspired Clippers team lose than apersonality-lacking Clippers win. Keep Brand please.
And thats totally your perrogative. I think there are two kinds of fans. Those who want to win championships as their main goal, or those who are just satisfied with entertaining basketball, good quality personnell, etc. Nothing wrong with that. What I do take issue is with someone who tries to put both of them together like painful who thinks that we can still be a championship team with basically what we have had the last 6 years that hasnt gotten us anywhere. If he would have said, hey, lets give brand the max because hes my favorite clipper, who cares if we dont win a championship, id have no problem with that, thats a personal opinion.

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The mistake was giving Kaman the big money. I love Kaman but his numbers this yr are big time inflated with EB's absence. I would have much rather built around EB. Not to mention the contracts of Cat and TT. SO tell me if I m wrong but the only 2 worthy noted expiring contracts are Maggs(option) and Sam, right?
I dont think it was a mistake. Kaman so far this year has shown himself worthy of even more than his contract. I think we could have gotten him for less last off season, but still its worked out fine. Even if it was a quantifiable mistake, its done, history, and we know kaman isnt going anywhere, so no sense in sweating him. You are correct with our expiring deals being cassell, and potentially maggette and/or brand. Williams as well, but thats pocket change.

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team is nothing without brand...i'm shocked how some of you think gasol is even in the same league as brand...brand is one the few true two way pf's in the game...i mean that he plays defense and offense...and yeah gasol took his grizzlies to the playoffs, but what is their record again??? something like 0-12???
Of course team is nothing without brand period.Thats why this poll is so wack. Its not about brand or nothing. Im saying brand or kidd. Or Brand or Josh smith, or brand or arenas. Some kind of replacement. I wouldnt just let brand go and end up with nothing. Gasol is better than brand for the win column, plain and simple. Especially on this team with Kaman. Gasol puts teams on his back for the whole year, not to mention at the end of games. Brand hasnt done anything on his own. You put someone like gasol into a much better team that we have had, who knows where we would have gone. How many games over the last 4 years we lose down the stretch (when cassell wasnt playing), due to lack of that go to guy. Gasol is that guy. I wouldnt start out gasol if he were a free agent at 17 million+, i dont think hes elite. Id only give that kind of money to a duncan, garnett, or dirk. But id pay gasol 14 million a year before brand. And brand will be asking for 17 million next year. Id much rather have paid gasols 15 million than that.

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and during the clippers playoff run of 05-06, cassell got the glory, but brand is the one who took us there...
Oh brother. I think its the other way around. Cassell was the resaon for brands increase. Just look at last year when cassell was injured again.

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and since everyone is blaming elton for the clippers woes, i guess garnett sucked balls when he was on the wolves...
No one is blaming brand for the clipper woes. Hes just not the answer to win a championship at a max deal. Garnett was great with the wolves. Hes a true superstar, one of the best ever. Put his game winning baskets compared to brand over the last 7 years and its probably like 20-0. But twolves decided hey, paying 20 million to garnett and being capped out is not going to get us a championship, we need to rebuild and try something else, and thats what they did. Im saying we need to do the same. We know something doesnt work for US, so lets go in a different direction. Personally id like to see brand go to a team where he doesnt have to be the only star, and id like to see him succeed for all his hard work.
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