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Old 05-01-2008, 01:14 AM   #50 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Michael Redd's place among active pure SG's

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Originally Posted by yamaneko View Post
Then why bring up kapono when its totally out of context as to what we are talking about? Like i said, someone in a gym who shoots all day long and can make half court shots with his eyes closed fits the criteria of an amazing shooter. But not in the context of being a star in this league, which is what youre talking about. And the article quoted either did not have the context of redd just being a guy who can shoot like your regular gym guy, or like kapono, etc. It was in the context of his stardom, they were bringing out things that made him a star...the same things that i brought out. What made it stand out more was his defficiences, about not being an explosive athletic guy like the stereotypical star, yet still his shooting puts him at a high level.

nice try, but wrong again....how is it "out of context"??? you specifically listed 4 traits that were factors in making redd a star...

a scrub like jason kapono had those same traits....the difference between the two players was scoring....

and does scoring alone make redd a "star"??? i don't think so.....

redd might be the best player in the milwaukee franchise, but that does not make him a franchise player....he's more akin to being the smartest kid in a special ed class....


you seem to have your own criteria for what constitues a star or franchise player in the nba....

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"his left handed shooting stroke is probably the quickest in the game."
"One of the game’s most prolific shooters "
"Has one of the quickest, purest, and most consistent releases in the League"
"One of the best catch and shooter players around."
like i said before, kapono has all these traits also....

and you counter that redd scores more...well, like Bon]{eRz said, kevin martin does everything better than redd, in a tougher conference, but you somehow claim redd is better...

then you constantly talk about "game winning shots".....well, game winning shots don't really matter when you lead your team to the third worst record in the weak eastern conference....


and finally, you claim redd is a star/franchise player because he is the best player in the bucks organization....well, chris kaman was undoubtedly the best player in the clippers organization.....does that make him a franchise player???? not so much.....


point by point, you have been proven wrong by numerous people, but you never concede....

and some of your arguements are outright funny....you speak on subjects you have no knowledge of....

here's what you said about a back to back 3 point shootout champion that led the league in 3pt% last year at 51.4%
and shot 48% this year:

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That would be a stretch to say that about kapono. Hes a decent shooter, but not sure that he has that quick of a release, that its consistent, nor that hes one of the best catch and shoot. But even if that were true, kapono is by no means a star...we would be comparing apples and oranges. a 7 point a game scorer to a 25 point a game scorer..

Wouldnt mind a specialist like him or korver on the clippers though off of the bench...
not to mention that kapono completed a catch and shoot under .3 seconds.....


you were so completely wrong, it was hilarious....but you glossed over that by claiming any gym rat could do the same and that it has nothing to do with being a star....but you were the one who brought up shooting ability as a factor in the first place!!!!

you try to backtrack, and circumvent all the stupiid claims you have made, but it's impossiible because you have made so many.....


your claims have been refuted successfully point by point....and quite simply put, redd is not a franchise player, a star, nor a top 3-4 sg in the nba....
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