Originally Posted by croco

Yeah, but when you are a total stiff on offense it doesn't matter how well you can defend. Even Bruce Bowen can fill a niche with his three point shooting, that and the fact that he doesn't turn the ball over are basically the only reasons why the Spurs can afford to give him that many minutes. Collins isn't even an intimidating presence or shotblocker, he is just a good low post defender, that is not enough to not consider him a negative factor.