Dre

Nah. Pac's only motive right now will be to avenge this loss, and then Bradley's motive will be to avenge his after he loses. They'll fight squashes in between then but they knew what they were doing. They meaning Arum and the other major decision makers for these federations....who has the promotional poster for a rematch the same night the first fight ended controversially?

Again, a rig always has a purpose. They're trying to wrap Mayweather's reign up because he had too much leverage in the Pacqiuao negotiations and they don't like a cocky guy like him giving them his ass to kiss. This result takes the focus off that match, Mayweather will come out and fight a comeback fight or two, by which point Pacquiao is involved with Bradley and will retire afterwards.

At the very least it takes Mayweather's leverage away on a huge payday because it's no longer the grand spectacle any more. It's kind of just another very good fight now. Arum did his own guy in to do Mayweather...dirty game.

Pacquaio has no incentive to fiddle around with Mayweather right now because he has more pressing issues, and in a minute he's going to go be Obama in the Philippines anyway.

rocketeer

no shit there's going to be a rematch.

i'm saying that 3 makes no sense unless under very specific circumstances. everything should easily get solved in two since pac won the first fight.

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Dre

Nah. I'm trying to tell you...just watch how this play out. Two years from now

R-Star

If they can do 3 they'll do 3. I mean it should be quite obvious by now this is all about money.

seifer0406

I don't think there will be a trilogy. Of course if somehow Pac under performs next fight and either loses or wins controversially then it's another story. If the 2nd fight goes exactly like this one and Pac wins then there is no rematch.

It's like when Roy Jones got DQ'd against some dude and came back knocked the guy out in 1 round. Just because the score is 1-1 doesn't mean there have to be a 3rd match.

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Dre

They gotta groom Bradley as that next dude

When Pac wins next time it's going to be 1-1 on paper. Despite what you think unless people are in jail behind what happened last night it's going to be some contrived tie breaker hype

rocketeer

it's all about money but if anything happens except for a controversial pac win, i think the money and interest dries up for the 3rd fight. how do they justify a rematch if pac wins? guy won both fights even if he only go credit for one. and if bradley wins, he has 2 wins on his record and it's over.

now maybe that just means that pac is going to win a bad decision in the rematch and this is all completely rigged already but i think it's more likely that this ends in the next fight and then they move on to the next thing they can make money on.

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seifer0406

I don't see your train of thought here Dre. There are other guys that Pacquiao can fight to make the same money for himself and Bob Arum. I don't think Top rank is grooming Bradley to be a star considering the guy is 29 and is a defensive style fighter.

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Dre

I didn't see the train of thought in what happened last night either but there had to be a reason for it. It wasn't an honest mistake.

Pac didn't become a huge star til his 30s either. In slim pickings you gotta do what you gotta

seifer0406

The suspicion is that Pacquiao's contract with Bob Arum is up and he's thinking about going somewhere else and that's why Bob Arum is screwing him by trying to lower his negotiating power. They didn't rig the fight so that Pacquiao can fight Bradley for the next year.

The problem with your logic is 1)Pacquiao has always been an exciting fighter while Bradley has been anything but (12KOs in 29 fights and has no Sweet Pea appeal). 2)Pacquiao was a star way before he turned 30. When Pac fought guys like Erik Morales/Marco Antonio Barrera/JMM he was only 25-27. When Pac fought DLH he was 29. Not to mention Pac was knocking those guys out. Bradley has no star potential and unless Bob Arum is an idiot (which he clearly isn't) he isn't plotting a grand scheme of making Bradley into some sort of superstar that will sell PPV. In fact, I'll say he will never headline a PPV much less have a big selling one.

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Dre

Alright, you may be right about Bradley sucking, I don't follow boxing as tough as I once did...they're still going to do a trilogy (if Pac wins) and Mayweather is still going to be denied his major moment with (it's not the same fight tomorrow), and that's by design.

We can reiterate ourselves ad nauseum or we could bump this in a couple months like we always do. I'll do the latter cause it's late.

R-Star

Mayweather never wanted the fight man.

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seifer0406

well, if you don't follow boxing I don't know what you're basing your views on. Floyd can't fight Pac in November because he beat up his girlfriend. Pac will fight Bradley and then if Mayweather can grow a pair and actually come up with a realistic offer then the two might fight in the first quarter of 2013. You're crazy if you think that this whole thing is derailed because Bob Arum is hell bent on making Timothy Bradley into a superstar. That would be the dumbest plan ever put in motion if that's the case.

If Floyd can't do that then there are tons of guys that Pacquiao can fight. Saul Alvarez who just fought Shane Mosley would be a great matchup. Amir Khan would be another guy that would be fun too. If you go down that list there are guys like Victor Ortiz, Lamont Peterson, even Zab Judah who looked great in his last fight could be a possibility.

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Mr. Hobbes

TMT Promotions sounds like a great move for boxing. About time someone other than Arum and De La Hoya set the terms.

There won't be Pac-Bradley 3. Pac-Bradley 2 is because of the rematch clause in fight 1. Pac and Bradley aren't fighting 3 times in a row without Canelo Alvarez getting a shot at one of them.

I'm starting to think Pac is the guy who's ducking, not Mayweather. Pac's younger, and his weight gain is very suspicious. He was fighting at 100 lbs when he was 25-27, and he's like 150+ at 33. The 33% increase in weight can't really be explained, given his traditional diet (rice, meat, veggies). If a person gets that much bigger in a short time, and it isn't a growth spurt caused by puberty, what is it?

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