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mainejeff · 12-01-2012, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TerrierNation

Only way that happens is if the ACC starts adding hoops schools (Nova, GT or Johnnies) and that is not happening.

Never say never.

umainealum · 12-01-2012, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrierNation

I say no freakin way to this scenario. You think DePaul and Marquette are going to leave Georgetown, Nova, St. John's to be in a league with Bonaventure, Duquesne, LaSalle, GW, Fordham?

The A10 has a number of powerful programs, but they also have a ton of dead weight

LOL...great job at cherry picking schools that represent the A-10 & BE to make your point. The scenario I am referring to is if the Big East doesn't break up...they would love to stay with those 3 you provided along with the other 4 but with the crap coming into the league, it is getting very watered down.

By the way, I forgot that Houston, SMU, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane are such hoops powerhouses these days and help DePaul & Marquette a whole lot more than regional programs like Butler, Xavier, St Louis would do for them.

UAalum72 · 12-03-2012, 03:46 PM

Mark Singelais in his Albany Times-Union blog has reported that the Connecticut Post has tweeted that an anonymous source says Quinnipiac and Monmouth may be moving to the MAAC. Doesn't say what Monmouth will do with football.

How's that for solid reporting?

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by UAalum72

Mark Singelais in his Albany Times-Union blog has reported that the Connecticut Post has tweeted that an anonymous source says Quinnipiac and Monmouth may be moving to the MAAC. Doesn't say what Monmouth will do with football.

How's that for solid reporting?

Not very solid info, but possible. Does the MAAC need 2 teams for next season?

Here's some news from Monmouth where it seems there is smoke, but no fire (yet).

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Monmouth University athletic director Marilyn McNeil said Monday the school has not received any invitations to join another league and leave the Northeast Conference,
According to a twitter report Monday from William Paxton, the beat writer for Sacred Heart and Fairfield University men’s basketball for the Connecticut Post, a source which he did not identify said Monmouth and Quinnipiac University will leave the NEC to join the Metropolitan Athletic Conference (MAAC).
“We’re still open to all conversations but there’s no news, there’s no formal invitation, there’s no invitation, there’s nothing,” McNeil said.
Monmouth has been a member of the NEC since 1985-86.
McNeil said such a decision would ultimately be made by the school’s Board of Trustees and not by her or Monmouth President Paul Gaffney.
“We’ve had only superficial conversations about movement,” McNeil said.
In a statement Monday NEC Commissioner Noreen Morris said, “The issue of conference realignment continues to garner much speculation and rumor from both traditional media and social media sources. The Northeast Conference is not immune from such speculation. However, at this point in time I have received no information from our members schools or the MAAC to corroborate the latest rumors.”

http://blogs.app.com/hawks/2012/12/0...join-the-maac/

UAalum72 · 12-03-2012, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Aceinthehole

Not very solid info, but possible. Does the MAAC need 2 teams for next season?

Loyola to the Patriot leaves them with nine. Why would they go to eleven? Also, would Fairfield object to another CT team?

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UAalum72

Loyola to the Patriot leaves them with nine. Why would they go to eleven? Also, would Fairfield object to another CT team?

Wagner is also being rumored ... more to come.

Fairfield would probably like a rival. QU gets local coverage in New Haven as well as some in the Courant (Hartford-Statewide). Fairfield's coverage has really been limited to Bridgeport and Fairfield County area. QU would be a good add for that crappy league.

Honestly, if this comes to pass, I would almost think its a given CCSU and/or Bryant are on their way to the AE. If not, we're screwed.

Very sad. As much as CCSU is an outlier in the NEC, its is a great run conference and the people are great - I have fond feeling for the front office and most of the other schools. This would basically set back all the remaining schools a long way. The trickle down effect is killing college sports.

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 04:52 PM

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The Metro Atlantic Athletic Conference is discussing expansion and reportedly Quinnipiac University and Monmouth could be joining the conference, according to a source. Wagner, another Northeast Conference school, has also been linked to the MAAC, which lost Loyola (Md.) to the Patriot League earlier this fall.

Read more: http://www.ctpost.com/sports/article...#ixzz2E2XkqESA

UNHFan · 12-03-2012, 05:04 PM

Will this be another case of the America east left out in the cold and adding no one? Or does these moves make CCSU more interested to join the Aeast?

TerrierNation · 12-03-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by umainealum

LOL...great job at cherry picking schools that represent the A-10 & BE to make your point. The scenario I am referring to is if the Big East doesn't break up...they would love to stay with those 3 you provided along with the other 4 but with the crap coming into the league, it is getting very watered down.

By the way, I forgot that Houston, SMU, Central Florida, South Florida, Tulane are such hoops powerhouses these days and help DePaul & Marquette a whole lot more than regional programs like Butler, Xavier, St Louis would do for them.

I think you misunderstood my point. The current BE setup is NOT sustainable for the very reasons you just suggested: the basketball programs are not very good for a number of schools. And certainly Xavier or no A10 school would jump to that league. It's a mess and would increase travel costs.

I am talking about the decision point for Xavier and the A10 schools AFTER a potential Big East split. What I AM saying is that an A10 powerhouse like Xavier, Dayton, Butler would CHOOSE to be affiliated with the 7 basketball-only schools of the Big East (Providence, Georgetown, Nova, Marquette, the Hall, Johnnies and DePaul) as opposed to the lesser programs of the A10.

This is what people have been debating. Not many are really talking about whether Xavier would join the Big East as it is presently constituted. They are discussing what would happen in the event of a split.

And yes, I am cherry picking. There are about 5 A10 programs that play in America East-caliber facilities and haven't made the NCAA tournament in years.

On the other hand, the weakest of the BE 7 basketball schools is presumably Seton Hall. They are stronger from a program perspective than probably any of those five schools. Not to mention the 5 NBA arenas and major markets that are represented by the BE 7 hoops schools. I am simply saying that in an environment without volatility, I have no doubt that Xavier, Dayton, Butler, St. Louis would give their left n*t to be in a league with Georgetown, to play at MSG and the United Center.

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNHFan

Will this be another case of the America east left out in the cold and adding no one? Or does these moves make CCSU more interested to join the Aeast?

Interested, you mean desperate?

If QU, Monmouth, and Wagner all join the MAAC (bringing them to 12 members), you bet CCSU and Bryant are walking up to Boston to sign the papers.

I'd assume the remaining NEC will want to keep the football AQ and would let the departing memebers (MU, Wag, CCSU, Bry) stay as FB--only affiliates.

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by UNHFan

Will this be another case of the America east left out in the cold and adding no one? Or does these moves make CCSU more interested to join the Aeast?

Interested, you mean desperate?

If QU, Monmouth, and Wagner all join the MAAC (bringing them to 12 members), you bet CCSU and Bryant are walking up to Boston to sign the papers.

I'd assume the remaining NEC will want to keep the football AQ and would let the departing memebers (MU, Wag, CCSU, Bry) stay as FB-only affiliates.

mainejeff · 12-03-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UNHFan

Will this be another case of the America east left out in the cold and adding no one?

My guess is no.

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Originally Posted by UNHFan

Or does these moves make CCSU more interested to join the Aeast?

My guess is yes.

mainejeff · 12-03-2012, 05:19 PM

This Indicates to me that AE is focusing more on adding public institutions.

This is good news for Central Connecticut.

Aceinthehole · 12-03-2012, 05:24 PM

I have a bad feeling the MAAC is going from 9 teams to 12. My gut right now says they add QU, MU, and Wagner.

So it seems like a no-brainer that the AE would add at least 2 schools to get to 10. CCSU and Bryant are the best fit available.

Question for the board: So does the AE consider going to 12 team, seeing all the changes going on. Is it worth it? If so, who would be the next 2 school on the list?

UNHFan · 12-03-2012, 05:25 PM

Could there be some type of merger between the remaining NEC schools and the Aeast or am I just thinking crazy? Would love to add Bryant and CCSU. Not sure who else is on the Aeast radar.

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Aceinthehole Veteran Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,545 Rep Power: 8611	Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming? I have a bad feeling the MAAC is going from 9 teams to 12. My gut right now says they add QU, MU, and Wagner. So it seems like a no-brainer that the AE would add at least 2 schools to get to 10. CCSU and Bryant are the best fit available. Question for the board: So does the AE consider going to 12 team, seeing all the changes going on. Is it worth it? If so, who would be the next 2 school on the list?

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UNHFan Veteran Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 2,216 Rep Power: 20480	Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming? Could there be some type of merger between the remaining NEC schools and the Aeast or am I just thinking crazy? Would love to add Bryant and CCSU. Not sure who else is on the Aeast radar.

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