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Old 06-09-2010, 10:03 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

The latest "hot" rumor is an absolute STUNNER if true...........

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/4...ten-conference

This might explain the Big Ten's "low profile" over the past couple of weeks regarding expansion plans even as rumor and innuendo has reached a fever pitch. I have a feeling there are A LOT of back room deals being worked out right now. The Big Ten(16) and Pac-10(16) are going to be blockbuster conferences when this is all said and done!

If the Notre Dame, Maryland, Rutgers and Syracuse to the Big Ten rumor is true then we can start deciphering what will happen to the other conferences..........

SEC - Missouri has got to be one of their targets if they are jilted by the Big Ten. The only other Big 12 school on their radar may be Kansas (gotta think that Kansas State will be a tag-along). Although the ACC might be hit with the shocking departure of Maryland to the Big Ten, they might only lose Florida State to the SEC. Clemson wants into the SEC. If Vanderbilt jumps ship to the ACC then Miami could look to climb aboard the the SEC Express. My prediction:

The "new" SEC:

Kentucky
South Carolina
Clemson
Georgia
Tennessee
Florida
Florida State
Auburn

Alabama
Mississippi State
Ole Miss
LSU
Arkansas
Missouri
Kansas
Kansas State


ACC/Big East - The ACC will need to act quickly if they intend on adding the "best names" left. They could find themselves in a similar, but more favorable posit or ion than Big East Football. Even with the departure of up to 4 members, the ACC still has a solid foundation of 8 or 9 schools that play football.....and that trumps the 6 remaining Big East Football members (UConn/Pitt/Cincinnati/West Virginia/Louisville/South Florida). There could be schools begging to get into the ACC as conference affiliations come crumbling down around the survivors of this Armageddon. The ACC could buck the 16 team trend and add just 4 to get back to 12.......but as they showed a few years ago, they are not afraid to mix it up to ensure their own survival as a BCS conference:

The "new" ACC:

BC
UConn
Pitt
West Virginia
Virginia Tech
Louisville
Cincinnati
Vanderbilt

Virginia
Duke
North Carolina
NC State
Wake Forest
Georgia Tech
Miami
South Florida


While ACC Football revenue will come nowhere close to that of the other 3 BCS conferences, this conference would be the best and deepest basketball conference hands down!

Good-bye Big East Football.

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Old 06-09-2010, 10:57 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

Wow I didn't see Maryland moving. If that is true they are going to make a lot of money but are moving into a football conference with a terrible team, they are killing there great basketball rivalries with Duke, UNC, and Virginia, and they kill themselves in lacrosse. Though they probably will just stay in the ACC in lacrosse since the Big Ten doesn't sponsor it.
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

I don't see it, period. They're not leaving Duke, UNC, UVA, etc. If anything, they would want, along with UVA and VT, to get WVU into the ACC.
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Old 06-10-2010, 01:06 AM   #124 (permalink)
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

I'm right here, in the heart of the Big 12 Conference (Texas). I was listening to Randy Galloway and Co. yesterday (ESPN Radio 103.3 FM) and they were chastising UT-Austin for keeping its arms crossed and not doing anything to keep the Big 12 together.

The Board of Regents at the University of Nebraska have pretty much decided to move to the Big 10. UT-Austin doesn't want to be seen as the school that bolted and brought the Big 12 down, so now they are blaming Nebraska and Tom Osborne for listening to the "mermaid chants" of the Big 10.

However, at the Athletic Dept. in Austin, every coach is being told that "the Big 12 is no more." Sure, like Nebraska by itself was going to bring the house down. Now Texas, Texas Tech and Texas A&M are entertaining the idea of joining the Pac 16. The Big 12 teams are not even studying the idea of inviting Texas Christian from the Mountain West to fill the void. They needed this excuse to break up the Big 12 and join a "super conference."

To everybody down here, it made more sense for UT-Austin to join the SEC, but they refuse citing "academic reasons." They see the SEC as lower-caliber institutions than those in the Big 12. Horsefeathers! The problem is that the Longhorns realize that in the SEC, a loss or two could cost them a BCS Bowl invitation (Alabama, Florida, et al), while in the old Big 12 they use to run the table. In a Pac 16, the only true rival would be probably USC.

Very interesting the way this is sorting out!

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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

Updated: June 10, 2010, 11:30 AM ET
Source: Colorado moving to Pac-10

Colorado will announce at noon ET on Thursday that the school is joining the Pac-10, a Buffaloes source told ESPN's Joe Schad.

Colorado's conference move was first reported by The Sporting News.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=5271438
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Old 06-10-2010, 04:45 PM   #126 (permalink)
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

And the next domino appears to be wobbling:

http://www.tmz.com/2010/06/10/oklaho...otball-big-12/

Oklahoma State to the Pac-10.

It's ON, yo!!
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To everybody down here, it made more sense for UT-Austin to join the SEC, but they refuse citing "academic reasons." They see the SEC as lower-caliber institutions than those in the Big 12.

Very interesting the way this is sorting out!

Texas is going to go wherever it wants and it will. UTIMCO has the fifth largest endowment among US college endowments. It manages $12 billion dollars.

If they really don't want to go to the SEC because of academic reasons (which we all know is really code for "we want to go where we can make the most money" but they can't just say that), however if that really was the reason I can't blame them because the only decent academic schools in the SEC are Vanderbilt and Florida-steep drop off after those two schools. Obviously, a conference with Stanford, Cal, and UCLA is a much more desirable place for them to be among peers academically.

This new "Pac 16" looks pretty awesome to me.
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

I never really understood the whole wanting to be with academic peers thing. It's nice for the Ivy League and maybe Patriot, but at the BCS level, who cares about the difference between an Ohio State and an Oklahoma? Vandy, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Georgetown, and Stanford have all dipped down in their conference affiliations and are no worse for it.
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I never really understood the whole wanting to be with academic peers thing. It's nice for the Ivy League and maybe Patriot, but at the BCS level, who cares about the difference between an Ohio State and an Oklahoma? Vandy, Duke, Rice, Northwestern, Georgetown, and Stanford have all dipped down in their conference affiliations and are no worse for it.
Not sure I'd include Stanford in that group. The Pac-10 is pretty solid academically across the board. You could make a case against the Arizona schools (which have some pretty solid reps as "party" schools, but the rest range from pretty solid to top notch.
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

The latest........

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093010

I think that this guy knows what is going on and I'm putting my money on what he says. So it looks like Texas A&M may be holding out for the SEC.......but the other 4 (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) are PAC-10 bound. If Texas A&M doesn't jump then Kansas or Utah may take their place as #16. Gotta be thinking that Jayhawk fans are rooting HARD for Texas A&M to go SEC.
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The latest........

http://www.texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1093010

I think that this guy knows what is going on and I'm putting my money on what he says. So it looks like Texas A&M may be holding out for the SEC.......but the other 4 (Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Oklahoma State) are PAC-10 bound. If Texas A&M doesn't jump then Kansas or Utah may take their place as #16. Gotta be thinking that Jayhawk fans are rooting HARD for Texas A&M to go SEC.
MJ,

This is totally out of control. Who knows what will happen until it's officially announced.

A Kansas City TV report says UT and A&M to the Big Ten!
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
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MJ,

This is totally out of control. Who knows what will happen until it's officially announced.

A Kansas City TV report says UT and A&M to the Big Ten!
http://www.kctv5.com/sports/23860558/detail.html
That one has been making the rounds all day......but I think it is a fake.
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

I find it kind of funny that for years we've all speculated on what the new alignments will look like, and our projections are always based on logic, geography, and fit. But once dominos start falling and schools freak out, scared to get left out in the cold, logic geography and fit pretty much go out the window.
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I find it kind of funny that for years we've all speculated on what the new alignments will look like, and our projections are always based on logic, geography, and fit. But once dominos start falling and schools freak out, scared to get left out in the cold, logic geography and fit pretty much go out the window.
That's because BIG MONEY trumps all logic!

The trickle down to our level may be more "logical".
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Re: Conference Expansion: Explosion Coming?

Boise State is joining the Mountain West today:

http://www.broncosports.com/SplashPa...H_AD_ID=502023
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