OBW Catch-All Thread

[UVM Hoop Cat]

Originally Posted by nycwolf

you are correct. Rusin "on any given night" can score 25 points.

Correct. Your post made it sound like Ben Crenca or Troy Davine scored 25pts, not a kid who has scored in double figures numerous times throughout his career.

[UVM Hoop Cat]

Originally Posted by nycwolf

sorry i was wrong he scored double digits 6 times, but has scored 5 or less 7 times...

You must only be talking about this season- look at his entire career starting with Marist.

[SaltySeawolf]

Warney is very good - but I dont think hands down the best post in the league. Fraser is a very legit post with a lot of very polished moves. I think Maine, in any kind of shape, gives SB matchup issues that make every game close. Warney has to pass the Fraser test before I will annoint him totally.

[Patch]

...I don't expect him to make 15footers or dribble the ball. He has a role right now and just needs to play it. - NEballer

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think Warney is the best Freshman I just don't think he is a Fab5, yet. Just my opinion

[uvm4life20]

Originally Posted by SaltySeawolf

Warney is very good - but I dont think hands down the best post in the league. Fraser is a very legit post with a lot of very polished moves. I think Maine, in any kind of shape, gives SB matchup issues that make every game close. Warney has to pass the Fraser test before I will annoint him totally.

Good point. Fraser is the best big man in the AE right now. A lot of people love Warney. He is huge, can catch, very strong, and finishes quickly with power. I haven't see any skills from Warney in the post though. Highly skilled isnt a word I would use to describe him. Pretty much all of his points against UVM were off put backs. He had 1 pretty good up and under move that got him to the line but that was on Crenca. I think Warney is far from polished as you would expect from any freshmen big who was able to get by with size throughout his career. It's easy to get excited for him as a freshmen.

[UVM Hoop Cat]

Originally Posted by farfromtheshow

If I were to try and project what he could become if he gets everything right, I'd say Kenny Adeleke-esque, but although Adeleke did 90 percent of his damage around the hoop, he did have a very nice jumper.

Agree 100%- they even have almost the exact same frame.

That said, Adeleke's offensive game was light years ahead of where Warney is now. Adeleke's jump hook/half hook was pretty much automatic and as you said, Adeleke had a very nice jumper. Not to mention, his footwork was way ahead.

That being said, If Warney can add some offensive post skills to his game he should be a 20+/10 guy in this conference.

BTW, looks like Adeleke just recently signed with the Springfield Armor of the D-League. Seems like a good player to catch up with.

[UVM Hoop Cat]

Warney's upside and potential, is undeniably, enormous.

[NEballer]

Originally Posted by Patch

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think Warney is the best Freshman I just don't think he is a Fab5, yet. Just my opinion

I will not disagree

[NotDeadYet]

Rusin has been kind of overeager to perform in some of his games this season and that has hurt him. Trying too hard can be just as bad as not trying enough. He seems to have calmed down in the last few games, though. His jump shot is less rushed and more stable. When he has been on he has looked like the best player on the court. He certainly has the hops to score 25 a game and I hope he continues to.

The mental game is soooo important.

[farfromtheshow]

Originally Posted by UVM Hoop Cat

Agree 100%- they even have almost the exact same frame.

That said, Adeleke's offensive game was light years ahead of where Warney is now. Adeleke's jump hook/half hook was pretty much automatic and as you said, Adeleke had a very nice jumper. Not to mention, his footwork was way ahead.

That being said, If Warney can add some offensive post skills to his game he should be a 20+/10 guy in this conference.

BTW, looks like Adeleke just recently signed with the Springfield Armor of the D-League. Seems like a good player to catch up with.

Kenny is a GREAT guy, I try to keep in touch with him as much as possible... He played in some really good leagues (ACB, Italian SerieA) and made some serious bank in them as well as in China... He likely would have been in the league for a cup of coffee or two had he either: been willing to pass up on Big paydays to go to the DLeague (he was invited to Vet camp 3 times but each time left for Europe because he wasn't guaranteed an NBA contract), and also not been injured - he tore his achilles and has had some other nagging injuries come up.

He got engaged this past year which is why I believe he did not go back over to Europe.

As for the Warney comparison, I agree Adeleke was light-years ahead of where he is, and was the best Big man I've seen in the AE not named Coppenrath in the last 15 years. But, he also was a fifth year senior and Warney is a frosh... I'm definitely not saying Warney will be, or even will likely be Adeleke, but that if he gets everything right I think that's what his ceiling is.

[nycwolf]

nice write up on the Maine win. I think we are insinuating a little to much on the the fact that it was voelkel's fault that edwards went off. Voelkel obviously jaws all game with guys. now it may have been voelkel's defense that caused edwards to score but we dont know it was really his mouth that all of a sudden made edwards wake up.

If maine wins saturday do maine fans start giving woodward a break?

[umainealum]

Originally Posted by nycwolf

nice write up on the Maine win. I think we are insinuating a little to much on the the fact that it was voelkel's fault that edwards went off. Voelkel obviously jaws all game with guys. now it may have been voelkel's defense that caused edwards to score but we dont know it was really his mouth that all of a sudden made edwards wake up.

If maine wins saturday do maine fans start giving woodward a break?

A break? Do you understand he has been the coach for 8 years and is in his 9th season?

His record over the years with conference finish:

2004-5: 14-15, 8-10, T-5th
2005-6: 12-16, 7-9, T-6th
2006-7: 12-18, 7-9, T-4th
2007-8: 7-23, 3-13, T-8th
2008-9: 9-21, 4-12, 8th
2009-10: 19-11, 11-5, T-3rd
2010-11: 15-15, 9-7, 3rd
2011-12: 12-17, 6-10, 7th


Totals: 100-136, 55-75

Keep in mind, this doesn't include this year's record of 8-11, 3-3...more mediocrity.

And guess how many games he has won in the AEast Tournament...0. Yep, 0-8 in AEast Tourney games. That is downright embarassing and awful!

A break? No friggin way...

[SaltySeawolf]

Well - youve never finished last.

[umainealum]

Originally Posted by SaltySeawolf

Well - youve never finished last.

Nor 1st...or even 2nd.

[farfromtheshow]

Our latest Power Rankings, Fab Five, Frosh Five... in which we've decided Maine is decidedly not a good team...

Matt and I agree on every spot in the rankings except 3 and 4... he beat me with a sack of door knobs and got his way. http://www.onebidwonders.com/2013/02...-rankings-v11/

For those not paying attention (and the one belligerent UMBC fan on here who - understandably - has been beaten into submission by the past 4 years atrocious basketball under coach Monroe) this years UMBC squad is night and day from the last four. Thomas, Greene and Zito have coached their asses off to get the team playing within a system and playing HARD every night. Last year a 13 point halftime deficit was a guaranteed 30 point loss, this year they come back and win the game...

Frankly, this UMBC team has Division III level talent for the most part and they are competing, which is impressive.