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Old 07-12-2012, 02:44 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I think BU plays small at first until Dieudonne, Kennedy and Alston prove they can contribute. The team definitely lacks rebounding. This is James Kennedy's chance to contribute though.

Morris
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I think that starting lineup is good for the beginning of the year, but if he's as good as advertised, I bet you'll see Watson and Irving sharing the backcourt together in significant minutes, maybe even starting. Also see a much bigger year for James Kennedy, so he may get a good number of starts, too.

With the other freshmen, Papale is a knock-down shooter, so if he carries that on to college, he'll see some good PT. There's ALWAYS room for someone like that on the court. I saw Dieudonne play back in December and though he's still very raw, I can see him making an impact in his first year. Talked to Jones some about Alston and he is very unsure about him, sounds like even more of a project than Piotrowski, meaning he'll be a proud Club Trillion representative.

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Penn State fan here, though I'm very familiar with this forum as I was born in raised in Binghamton (and the only member of my family that didn't go there). Any thoughts on the possibility of him ending up with Pat Chambers at Penn State?

PSU has an interesting scholarship situation right now in that they have one additional ship hanging out there for this season, but then are booked up again the following year. So, there has been a lot of speculation (maybe wishes moreso) that we could take on a one season grad xfer without impacting the future scholarship situation. O'Brien probably isn't what you'd think of as a Big Ten talent, however from what I've seen of him in the past, he'd see minutes in PSU's rotation if he was anything close to where he was a few years ago (unless a couple of guys in PSU's frontcourt really developed in the offseason). I know that he wanted out from BU when Chambers got there, but were there any other issues after that point, or could it be a possibility?
Though the connections make sense on the surface, I would be very, very surprised if O'Brien ended up at Penn State. He opted to stick with BU and Chambers back in 2009, but he, like other players on the team, were rubbed the wrong way by his departure.

I do agree that he has the capability of playing for a high major school. If the goal is to go to the NCAA Tournament, BC would be an exercise in futility. I could see somewhere like PC, but at this point, it's all speculation. Best of luck to him, though. Three coaches and several debilitating injuries is tough to work through, so a change of scenery makes sense.
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:43 AM   #47 (permalink)
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No idea IF Jake O'Brien's healthy and has found his outside shooting skills again, or whether these schools have scholarship availability or Masters degree programs that would not be available at BU; but if he were looking to catch on with a big-name program with an NCAA Championship pedigree and the possibility of making the NCAA tournament in 2013, UCLA probably could use frontcourt depth, and Duke, Syracuse and Michigan probably could use some more senior on-court leadership.
I don't think he'd get playing time at Duke. He'd be behind two Plumlees, Murphy, Hairston, Hood and Jefferson.

Edit: And Ryan Kelly, whose game is basically the same as Jake's, except much better.
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According to Jeff Goodman, O'Brien is looking at Temple, Purdue, UVA, Providence, BC, Ohio State and NC State........should be an interesting decision. Some offer a better chance to dance than others.
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I can't see him being anything more than a small role player at any of those schools. He was a pretty good America East player, nothing special.
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I can't see him being anything more than a small role player at any of those schools. He was a pretty good America East player, nothing special.
even BC?

I think some people forget his talents.
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I don't think he'd get playing time at Duke. He'd be behind two Plumlees, Murphy, Hairston, Hood and Jefferson.

Edit: And Ryan Kelly, whose game is basically the same as Jake's, except much better.
It is not about playing time. It is about Coach K having to tell a highly recruited player who chose Duke over UNC and Indiana that his playing time is going to be cut because we got some kid from BU.

Just doesn't happen......Duke will have zero interest.
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Apparently Coach K was able to convince the Duke roster last year that a transfer from Liberty University (Seth Curry) would be getting more playing time than blue chips recruits. It has already happpened. Not saying it will happen for Jake but it does happen.
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Apparently Coach K was able to convince the Duke roster last year that a transfer from Liberty University (Seth Curry) would be getting more playing time than blue chips recruits. It has already happpened. Not saying it will happen for Jake but it does happen.
There's a huge difference though between a transfer that's coming into your program for 3 years (Curry) and one that would be coming in as a grad student transfer for only 1 season. Curry was also a household name given his brother.

Additionally, Duke took on Mississippi State transfer 6'8 Rodney Hood already- doubt they would want O'Brien.

Third, adding O'Brien to Duke would be redundant and I doubt there is interest. As BU Fan 84 said Duke already has Ryan Kelly who does everything O'Brien can do- except does it better.

Of the teams Goodman mentioned, O'Brien would get reduced minutes and play a specific role at all except BC. He would play a BC, but that's because there is more talent in my basketball league at the JCC in Newton then there is on the BC roster right now.
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I'm just going to be curious to hear what he plans on getting a graduate degree in that isn't offered at BU- since BU offers a masters degree in just about everything.
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I'm just going to be curious to hear what he plans on getting a graduate degree in that isn't offered at BU- since BU offers a masters degree in just about everything.
He doesn't have to get a degree in anything. He has to be enrolled in a program that BU doesn't offer. He has to pass enough classes to be eligible at the end of the first semester, and after that, he can basically do what he wants.

Yes, there may be APR implications, but it's not like he needs to have his master's diploma in order to play.

I'm sure he can find a program somewhere, and I'm sure the coaches at every school interested in him are finding some obscure program they offer that isn't offered on Comm. Ave.
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He doesn't have to get a degree in anything. He has to be enrolled in a program that BU doesn't offer. He has to pass enough classes to be eligible at the end of the first semester, and after that, he can basically do what he wants.

Yes, there may be APR implications, but it's not like he needs to have his master's diploma in order to play.

I'm sure he can find a program somewhere, and I'm sure the coaches at every school interested in him are finding some obscure program they offer that isn't offered on Comm. Ave.
True, it is just a year and they don't have to follow-up and get an actual degree, they can just take classes for one year in Underwater basket weaving or whatever.

I agree, I'm sure the coaches will find some random program- but it will be harder to do this from BU then other places because BU has so many programs- they have a business school, law school, and medical school. It will be interesting for me to hear what he chooses, if it's ever made public. Seems like it's a waste, but whatever.

As an aside, I'm really not sure how I feel about this rule. I don't feel like if someone receives a medical redshirt they should be allowed to do this anymore. If a player is an amazing student and can graduate in 3 years or the basketball team redshirts them as a non-medical redshirt then that should be fine- but I'm not sure if kids that receive a medical redshirt should be allowed to transfer like this.
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I think Jake would be a tremendous fit for the University of Maine's Doctorate of Philosophy in Forest Resources.

Or perhaps a graduate certificate in Advanced Engineered Wood Composites.
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Re: Jake O'Brien Out!

Actual news from Andy Katz:

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3. Keep an eye on an intriguing free agent. CBSSports.com reported that Boston University forward Jake O'Brien is leaving the Terriers after the America East decided against allowing BU to play for the NCAA automatic berth in the conference tournament. The Terriers are departing for the Patriot League in 2013. Sources told ESPN.com Sunday that O'Brien is looking at Providence, Boston College, Clemson, Purdue, Temple and a few others. O'Brien can play immediately by getting a waiver since he graduated. He would just have to be a grad student. O'Brien broke his foot and missed the last year-plus. The 6-foot-8 forward was the America East rookie of the year and a 13-point scorer as a sophomore before injuries befell him as a junior. O'Brien has the chance to be a scoring pop off the bench for any of these teams mentioned.
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I wouldn't use the words "Actual News" and "Andy Katz" in the same sentence all too often.

Only difference between his blog and this message board is that some coaches return his calls, and he gets paid to rumor monger, we don't.
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I wouldn't use the words "Actual News" and "Andy Katz" in the same sentence all too often.

Only difference between his blog and this message board is that some coaches return his calls, and he gets paid to rumor monger, we don't.
Yeah, and I'd even go a step further and replace "Andy Katz" with "Any College Basketball writer with a blog/twitter".

Just have to look at an article I linked to in this thread, which by all accounts, isn't correct:

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebask...ansferring-out
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