Aceinthehole

How can anyone think docking scholarships or banning PSU from bowl games is appropriate for what actually happened? This is just a PR stunt by the NCAA. Again, what happend with MURDERS at Baylor and UVA - where was the NCAA?

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Key PSU university officials clearly violated State and Federal laws mean to protect children! This is CRIMINAL act and is morally disgusting. But please don't ask the NCAA to enforce any penalties for moral or appreances sake - they can barley handle academic enforcement.

If I was in the Governor's office there is no way I would let crap by the NCAA stand. I would, as the Governor, put the entire athletic program into to some sore of recievership or trustee-appointed control board. The punishment should fit the crime, but keep the NCAA out of this.

Bannining the football team from post season play does nothing for the victims and it does not address a single cause of this problem.

Aceinthehole

I with ecasadoSBU 100%

This heinous crime was committed by an evil man and he should pay dearly for this in jail. The conspirators who covered it up deserve a similar fate.

But where does the NCAA get some sort of moral compass to extract fines and penalties for intercollegiate sports?

If Jerry Sandusky was a world-renowned science professor at PSU, and the Dean, VP, and Presidnet covered up the same crimes in a science lab, would we really expect the NSF to stop awarding research grants to PSU students/faculty?

hoopcat

My take on it is slightly different. The reason the administrators covered up was because football was so important to the University. That is complete lack of institutional control over the athletic program and that is why the punishment is so harsh. If Sandusky acted alone with no cover up, this punishment would not be as big. The cover up was the big problem and this the NCAA has authority over, so they are not overstepping their bounds.

If the extent of the coverup is overblown, than yes, the NCAA may be overstepping their bounds.

NU Hoop Fan

+1

I know people who worked on the investigation, personally. These folks have worked on some major investigations (including Nazi war reparations, etc), the Freeh report didn't overblow anything.

This was a crime that was covered up.

Baylor had some pretty serious penalties, folks. A University employee was involved in a cover up there. They paid a price.

Someone tell me what administrators at UVA covered anything up in the murder there? Then I'll believe an analogy is appropriate.

The NCAA has authority under the "institutional control" provisions - like it or not, it's not overstepping the NCAA's bounds.

Rembmer, participation in the NCAA is VOLUNTARY. You don't HAVE to be a member. If schools don't like the NCAA, resign and join the NAIA or form another umbrella governing association.

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goBing

I disagree with your first statement. The students do suffer I agree and it sucks. But you got to look at the larger picture, if you let schools get away with this, it creates a moral hazard problem. Alumna and administrators will see a "slap on the wrist" response and continue to funnel money and and have a "win at all costs" attitude, which needs to stop. Also those individuals are the program. People make up programs.

As for the NCAA part I agree, they have a monopoly and act like they can do what they want, which is scary. There should be some kind of Jury of some sort, maybe an independent arbitrator. I don't like that the NCAA has so much power over our schools.

goBing

Yes, if I was in charge of the NSF and the same thing happen, I would spend my money elsewhere. I am not going to invest in a school that can't be trusted.

UAalum72

The $60 million fine is only the beginning of the financial hit. The Big 10 is also imposing penalties (haven't heard what they are yet), and revenues will be down by however many (20,000? 30,000?) customers don't buy tickets, parking, concessions, and souveniers while not watching a 1-12 team for the next five years.

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UVM Hoop Cat

The "Death Penalty" is a very poor descriptor for a one year ban from NCAA competition.

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nycwolf

to be honest who really cares. Penn state allowed children to be raped! The NCAA has every right to come down hard on them. Penn State is a member institution who has made big money by being involved with them. Obviously money and fame are the only thing that Penn State understands. if they dont like it they can go play in the NAIA. What happened at Penn state is beyond a tragedy. i am sick and tired of people having their backs. Joe PA is a hero, joe pa is a great guy, joe pa did so much good, what about the players.... Once again they allowed CHILDREN TO BE RAPED. the players are adults they will understand and find other schools and move on like adults, joe pa's legecy is torn down and to be honest he is the only person involved who is restign in peace right now. I wish he was still alive to see this all go down. How that man walked through that building and look sandusky in the face and then went out and coached football or shook a parents hand is beyond me. I know everyone will be like we agree it was bad...then stop sticking up for them.

ExplorerSteve

Makes one wonder if the NCAA will go after Pete Carroll (have to fine him and get NFL to agree to garnish a portion of his wages), John Calipari, Calhoun from UConn and other coaches who have multiple rules violations.

What will happen to Miami and other renegade programs like ones in the SEC?

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nycwolf

there is a difference between allowing children to be raped and give a player some cash or recruiting kids who cant survive in the school academically.

The Magic Man

I may be in the minority here, but I don't think the penalties were harsh enough. Don't get me wrong, I think Penn State got hammered, but it still doesn't feel right that they still get to have football this year.

UVM Hoop Cat

You're not. I'd ban football for a number of years and strongly consider axing the program forever- for the simple reason that PSU showed they do not deserve to have football and could not handle having football.

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The Magic Man

I don't know if I'd go as far as axing the program forever, but at the end of the day, they still get to have big-time football (even though they'll be crap for the next decade or two), and I have to really question if this is going to fix the core issues of the university (namely, football got way too big and influential). And I think the fine is getting overblown in the scope of things, it was money that PSU was probably going to donate anyway for PR's sake, not to mention, that they will likely be paying far more with all the impending law suits coming their way.

nycwolf

Your not. I agree with UVM up until the forever part.