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Old 02-09-2013, 10:30 PM   #316 (permalink)
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Alright, alright, I'm not going to argue with you that SBU sports are dominating Bing. So while don't we do what is right for Suny and make Bing the academic flagship and 2nd teir SBU the sport's flagship.
I dont know man... But for some reason I could never start a flame war with Bing fans. Its so not exciting... You are wasting your time here
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Old 02-10-2013, 12:07 AM   #317 (permalink)
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Doesnt have much lift either.
I guess you don't see many games.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:09 AM   #318 (permalink)
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I try to catch every TV and ESPN3 only. Live near DC.

Warney's play kind of reminds me of Mike Sweetney who was drafted by Knicks in 2004? i think.. only Warney is not fat like him

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Old 02-10-2013, 07:37 AM   #319 (permalink)
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McAllister is a junior and I guess Mayo wasn't very memorable since you don't remember Mayo playing in 31 games and starting 13 as a freshman in 2010-11

Yeah...not his first year and he's a red shirt sophomore.

It is King's first year playing as a RS FR, so that's correct.
Sorry..I was typing in two different boards and trying to get my project going at work... got all mixed up! On SBU board I was trying to figure out how many schollies available and got myself confused.

Anyway... But still stand correct that we still need an athletic center.
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Sorry..I was typing in two different boards and trying to get my project going at work... got all mixed up! On SBU board I was trying to figure out how many schollies available and got myself confused.

Anyway... But still stand correct that we still need an athletic center.
No worries, I just caught that and wasn't sure if it was serious or a mistake.
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Sorry..I was typing in two different boards and trying to get my project going at work... got all mixed up! On SBU board I was trying to figure out how many schollies available and got myself confused.

Anyway... But still stand correct that we still need an athletic center.
An athletic center simply does not happen in the America East - it's a low-major conference: the only players you can get at this level with true center size lack athleticism, the only center's with athleticism lack size. In the last 12 seasons the league has had one, and only one, athletic center: Nick Billings, who had the length (7'1") of a true center and big time athleticism, but fell to the America East because there were other issues in his life that prevented him from ever tapping his true potential.

You know who hasn't had an athletic center:
BU 2002
UVM 2003
UVM 2004
UVM 2005 (2005 was the Syracuse win)
*Albany 2006
Albany 2007
UMBC 2008
Binghamton 2009
Vermont 2010
BU 2011
Vermont 2012

*Albany in 2006 was the only one of the past 11 America East champions to play a true center (Kirsten Zoellner) who took up space and clogged the lane, but was not one of their "go to" guys and was not athletic by any stretch of the imagination.

You don't get athletic centers in this league, and you certainly don't need them to win.
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I would say a legit 6'10" is a legit center in d1 basketball. You don't need to be 7 feet in D1. You need to be 7 feet in the NBA. Mason Plumlee is 6'11" and there is no question he is a legit center who dominates. I don't know how many athletic legit 6'10" players have come through the AE. FFTS would have a better clue on that. I think FFTS though thinks you need to be 7 feet to be a legit center in D1.
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I would say a legit 6'10" is a legit center in d1 basketball. You don't need to be 7 feet in D1. You need to be 7 feet in the NBA. Mason Plumlee is 6'11" and there is no question he is a legit center who dominates. I don't know how many athletic legit 6'10" players have come through the AE. FFTS would have a better clue on that. I think FFTS though thinks you need to be 7 feet to be a legit center in D1.
No, but there has only been one guy who was athletic and 6'10" plus to come through the AE in the last 13 seasons (my time frame here)... Maybe two guys, Billings and Tony Lalor for Hartford, who didn't even make it through a full season.

And, like I said, none of the last 12 AE champions have had an athletic true center. Only one of them, Albany 2006 , has had a true center at all.

Here's a look at each team and the man playing the 5 position, * will be used when they had a true center.

2002: BU, Ryan Butt 6'8" 260 (skilled, crafty, guts and guile, tough, skilled, great touch... far, FAR from an athlete)
2003: Vermont, Matt Sheftic 6'8" 280+ - stronger Ryan Butt without the jump shot or low-post moves.
2004: Vermont, Scotty Jones, 6'7" 220 - athletic leaper, not polished or skilled but good motor, probably closer to 6'6"
2005: Vermont, Martin Klimes, 6'8" 230, physical, played hard, not exactly polished or skilled
2006: Albany, Kirsten Zoellner, 7'1" 270, BIG, space eater.
2007: Albany, Jimmy Covington, 6'7" 260, Physical, gave you 5 fouls.
2008: UMBC, Cavell Johnson, 6'8" 220, super athletic, skilled, a true power forward with high-major skills who was playing the 5.
2009: Binghamton, Kyrie Sutton, 6'9", space eater, gave you 5 fouls.
2010: Vermont, Evan Fjeld, 6'8" 215, 4-man with some bounce, skill, and great touch.
2011: BU, Pat Hazell, 6'6" 220, long arms, some bounce, gave you some rebounds and blocks
2012: Vermont, Luke Apfeld, 6'7", bouncy, active, skilled, nice shot...

only one of the past 11 America East champs started someone in the middle above 6'9"... True college centers do not come to the AE, and if they do, you're lucky if they can walk and chew gum at the same time.
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:25 PM   #324 (permalink)
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What about on non championship teams or guys who played the PF spot but were taller?
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Old 02-10-2013, 07:30 PM   #325 (permalink)
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An athletic center simply does not happen in the America East - it's a low-major conference: the only players you can get at this level with true center size lack athleticism, the only center's with athleticism lack size. In the last 12 seasons the league has had one, and only one, athletic center: Nick Billings, who had the length (7'1") of a true center and big time athleticism, but fell to the America East because there were other issues in his life that prevented him from ever tapping his true potential.

You know who hasn't had an athletic center:
BU 2002
UVM 2003
UVM 2004
UVM 2005 (2005 was the Syracuse win)
*Albany 2006
Albany 2007
UMBC 2008
Binghamton 2009
Vermont 2010
BU 2011
Vermont 2012

*Albany in 2006 was the only one of the past 11 America East champions to play a true center (Kirsten Zoellner) who took up space and clogged the lane, but was not one of their "go to" guys and was not athletic by any stretch of the imagination.

You don't get athletic centers in this league, and you certainly don't need them to win.
Was Dickinson a center (or would he be considered a forward).
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Was Dickinson a center (or would he be considered a forward).
He is 6'9". Def not a legit 6'10"
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He is 6'9". Def not a legit 6'10"
Do you have to be 6'10 to be a Center. I'm asking cause I really don't know.
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Re: 2012-2013 Seawolf Pride

Can we get to hartford game. Why did SBU agree to play on sunday and not push it off? 95 was closed for one thing which increases travel time disregarding the fact that they got stuck in a ditch, limited practice time saturday if any, same day travel...you think they would have rescheduled when they were more prepared.
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I agree, I would of never agreed to play this past weekend. But case of rocks case of rocks.
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Although I dont like that we lost at Hartford, I would rather take the loss now and feel the sting now than lose at the AE tourney. This kind of tough loss can only make us more prepared come March.
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