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ESPN Most Successful Programs (AE Included)
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...50-50-rankings
Out of 309 eligible teams (at least 15 years of DI membership), Boston U highest AE team at 129. UNH...well, 309 of 309. Also, T-207. Vermont T-247. UMBC T-268. Hartford 284. Maine It's a weird system, however, as Baylor is T-258, and UMBC is T-247. Just thought it was interesting. Last edited by umbc32244; 08-24-2012 at 12:14 PM. |
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Re: ESPN Most Successful Programs (AE Included)
UA, Bing, and SBU don't make the 15 year cut. I wonder what would their ranking be
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Re: ESPN Most Successful Programs (AE Included)
I did the math last year, no other program with the length of time that UNH has in DI basketball is anywhere close to as bad. #309 of 309 sounds just about right.
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Suprisingly, the NEC stacks up nice.
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What a stupid exercise. Results like this happen when you take people that like doing math and creating formulas but then don't know anything about basketball- and this is what you get I suppose. Garbage in/garbage out:
Winning the regular season conference title, regardless of conference= 5 pts NCAA 1st rd win as a 12-16 seed= 1 pt HUH???????? LoL. That example above is pretty telling that this entire scoring system really isn't meant to include mid-majors, yet for some reason includes them. Below is the completely random categories (NBA draft picks?) and their even more bizarre assigned values: SCORING SYSTEM Conference title - 5 points For best win percentage in regular season regardless of division. Independents that finished ahead of two major conference champions in final AP poll received credit. Conference tournament title - 3 points Independents that finished ahead of two major-conference champions in final AP poll received credit. Win percentage 80 percent and above = 4 points, 60-79 percent = 2 points, 35.1-49.9 percent = minus-2 points, less than 35 percent = minus-4 points. No. 1 seed - 2 points Started in 1979. NCAA tournament berth - 1 point NCAA 1st-rd. win as 12-16-seed - 1 point Started in 1979 for 12-seeds only, 1985 for seeds 12-16. Losing in second round - 3 points Started in 1985, every team had to win a game to advance to Round of 32. Sweet 16 loss - 5 pts Started in 1975, every team had to win at least once to advance to Sweet 16. Elite Eight loss - 10 pts National semifinal loss - 15 points Title game loss - 20 points National title - 25 points NIT title - 1 point First-team All-American - 3 points Second-team All-American - 2 points Player taken in NBA's top 10 - 2 points Started in 1966, common draft. Vacated season - minus-2 points Any season where wins were vacated. Sanctions TV ban = minus-1 point, postseason ban = minus-2 points, probation = minus-1 point, loss of financial aid = minus-1 point, recruiting violation = minus-1 point, show-cause action = minus-2 points. http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebaske...0-in-50-series
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It may not be a great system, but I think the top 20 came out pretty fairly.
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Man, I like math/statistics, but that calculation reeks of middle-aged Clearasil and insufficient sunlight during important growth years. To parse it at all would be akin to breaking out some mechanical pencils, a pocket protector and bottle of Brut for a fun night.
I think I am gonna go do something constructive, like write letters for Amnesty International, just for reading this discussion of the drivel and withhold my renewal of my ESPN Insider membership in protest. They cannot publish that nonsense without some consequence, even if it is only $3.33 a month. Yuck. Last edited by BucBisonAtLarge; 08-26-2012 at 09:05 PM. Reason: eliminating scatological language-- I have a college-level vocabulary, so I might as well use it. |
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Just given the fact they assign a value 5X greater for Lehigh or Bucknell or UVM winning the PL or AE regular season title then they do for their wins in the NCAA Tournament over Kansas, Duke, and Syracuse respectively is enough to make their analysis or whatever you want to call it completely worthless. That makes zero sense.
Bar is being set pretty low at ESPN these days.
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Ummm, how in the hell do you make a formula that shows who's the most successful team in college basketball??? I think that all that needs to be said.
with that said however I created a pretty good formula for the most successful college teams. .01(NCAA appearances) X 1.23 (average attendance) X 800 (Schools with a Mike Horn on the team). Based on this Binghamton is #1 Last edited by goBing; 08-27-2012 at 08:35 PM. |
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Just saw Basketball Times published rankings for best NCAA basketball programs & coaches.
Vermont ranked 30th in country! Becker was ranked 23rd overall. Also saw that UVM just got another TV game added. http://ivyleague.prestosports.com/sp...twork_Schedule
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