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TerrierNation · 10-11-2012, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by dnapolit

Terrier Nation, no Maurice Watson? The kid is an ESPN Top 100 recruit. I've got to believe Jones will find a way to work him into the starting rotation if he's as good as advertised.

Yeah, I do think Watson will get good minutes, but I still thinks he starts the season coming off the bench. Remember, DJ is already one of the best 3 players in the America East and knows BU's system. And I don't think Jones wants to start two players at or under 6', especially given that our front court is rather undersized. They will play together at the same time for parts of a game, but I think he at least starts the season as a sub.

umainesuperfan · 10-11-2012, 10:41 AM

Maine's starting five, to me, is uncertain right now because they have a ton of flexibility at multiple positions and it's unclear if they will go back to a more traditional lineup or play lots of three guard sets ala 2011-2012.

One thing is for certain, Edwards, Fraser, and Allison will be in the starting lineup, but after that I really don't know...

PG: Pollard
SG: Edwards
SF: Mesghna
PF: Fraser
C: Allison

Next 5: Cooper, Jr., Cato, Coronel, Gloger, Lawton
Outside looking in: Micovic, Valjarevic, McAllian

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-11-2012, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrierNation

Remember, DJ is already one of the best 3 players in the America East and knows BU's system. And I don't think Jones wants to start two players at or under 6', especially given that our front court is rather undersized. They will play together at the same time for parts of a game, but I think he at least starts the season as a sub.

3 best players? 3 best point guards maybe, but 3 best players? Nah.

All I know is if Watson is even remotely as good as he's been hyped to be, then how in the world would BU bring him in off the bench?

DJ Irving can hit the open 3 pretty well. If there's ever a conference where you can play a 5'8'' PG next to a 5'11'' PG, then it's the AE.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-11-2012, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrierNation

I think it's pretty safe to assume 4/5 of BU's starters. Other spot is most likely Chionuma, but they could go bigger with Kennedy or Dieudonne

DJ Irving
Travis Robinson
Malik Thomas
Dom Morris
Chionuma/Papale/Kennedy/Dieudonne if you go big

I think Travis Robinson would be a good player to bring off the bench, and most likely would be coming off the bench on most BU teams, but probably not this year.

TerrierNation · 10-11-2012, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by UVM Hoop Cat

I think Travis Robinson would be a good player to bring off the bench, and most likely would be coming off the bench on most BU teams, but probably not this year.

He did start last year. I think he's underrated. Rebounds and defends very well for a guard and has good size in the AE for a 2. Shoots close to 40 percent from 3 point range and can finish around the basket. Not really able to create his own shot, but hopefully Irving and Watson can create for him.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-11-2012, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TerrierNation

He did start last year. I think he's underrated. Rebounds and defends very well for a guard and has good size in the AE for a 2. Shoots close to 40 percent from 3 point range and can finish around the basket. Not really able to create his own shot, but hopefully Irving and Watson can create for him.

Yeah I know he started last season and will probably start this season too. I know his % are good but I've just never been that impressed by him whenever I've seen him. Would be nice if BU had enough depth where he could come off the bench as a scorer.

Maybe he'll make the jump in his Jr. year with Partin/Holland no longer around.

TheSeawolf Roar · 10-16-2012, 08:08 PM

It seems like both Brenton and Voelkel will be playing a majority of the time at the 3 this year. Does anyone see them putting up rebounding numbers like they did last year? Can anyone see either averaging 10 points a game this year?

farfromtheshow · 10-17-2012, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSeawolf Roar

It seems like both Brenton and Voelkel will be playing a majority of the time at the 3 this year. Does anyone see them putting up rebounding numbers like they did last year? Can anyone see either averaging 10 points a game this year?

Brenton played most of last season at the 3, and it hurt his overall rebounding numbers compared to previous seasons.

Voelkel was technically the 3 as well with glass the 4, but he was able to play closer to the basket more regularly because Glass spent most of his time on offense on the perimeter, versus Al Rapier (SBU's 4) who played most of the game within 5-8 feet of the hoop on offense.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-17-2012, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by farfromtheshow

Brenton played most of last season at the 3, and it hurt his overall rebounding numbers compared to previous seasons.

Voelkel was technically the 3 as well with glass the 4, but he was able to play closer to the basket more regularly because Glass spent most of his time on offense on the perimeter, versus Al Rapier (SBU's 4) who played most of the game within 5-8 feet of the hoop on offense.

Voelkel plays inside a fair amount because- duh- he's the Brian Urlacher of the America East conference, but not as much as this post makes it sound.

Voelkel was the QB on offense and spends most of the time on the wing on the perimeter or flashing to the high post.

It wouldn't be possible for him to average 5+ assists per game otherwise.

TheSeawolf Roar · 10-17-2012, 12:07 PM

So the question remains, who has a higher PPG average this year? Who wins the total rebounds category this year between those 2?

bosiydid · 10-17-2012, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSeawolf Roar

So the question remains, who has a higher PPG average this year? Who wins the total rebounds category this year between those 2?

PPG, Brenton unless Voelkel can raise his shooting % out of the 30%'s

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-17-2012, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSeawolf Roar

So the question remains, who has a higher PPG average this year? Who wins the total rebounds category this year between those 2?

I'll guess Brenton will have a higher PPG this season for the simple reason that I don't see how Brenton doesn't greatly increase his FG attempts for SBU this season, where Voelkel will more than likely have the exact same role as last season on offense- though I do expect his FG% to get better because, well, it can't get much worse.

Voelkel will probably have more rebounds and assists and steals will be another close category.

So-Brenton Points, Voelkel- Rebounds and Assists

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-17-2012, 12:20 PM

In other words, I don't see how SBU competes if Brenton only takes 4.8 FGA/game again, but Voelkel will probably take around 4.3 FGA/game for us again.

Unless Coley is going to take 17 shots a game, who else scores for SBU? I guess we're going to find out.

bosiydid · 10-17-2012, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UVM Hoop Cat

In other words, I don't see how SBU competes if Brenton only takes 4.8 FGA/game again, but Voelkel will probably take around 4.3 FGA/game for us again.

Unless Coley is going to take 17 shots a game, who else scores for SBU? I guess we're going to find out.

Can't wait! It seems like forever the last time we've seen hoops.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 10-17-2012, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bosiydid

Can't wait! It seems like forever the last time we've seen hoops.

Seriously...I've been watching NBA pre-season games to tide me over.

10-11-2012, 10:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
umainesuperfan Rookie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	Re: Starting Five Maine's starting five, to me, is uncertain right now because they have a ton of flexibility at multiple positions and it's unclear if they will go back to a more traditional lineup or play lots of three guard sets ala 2011-2012. One thing is for certain, Edwards, Fraser, and Allison will be in the starting lineup, but after that I really don't know... PG: Pollard SG: Edwards SF: Mesghna PF: Fraser C: Allison Next 5: Cooper, Jr., Cato, Coronel, Gloger, Lawton Outside looking in: Micovic, Valjarevic, McAllian

10-16-2012, 08:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
TheSeawolf Roar Seawolf Nation Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Brook Posts: 276 Rep Power: 1411	Re: Starting Five It seems like both Brenton and Voelkel will be playing a majority of the time at the 3 this year. Does anyone see them putting up rebounding numbers like they did last year? Can anyone see either averaging 10 points a game this year?

10-17-2012, 12:07 PM	#25 (permalink)
TheSeawolf Roar Seawolf Nation Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: The Brook Posts: 276 Rep Power: 1411	Re: Starting Five So the question remains, who has a higher PPG average this year? Who wins the total rebounds category this year between those 2?

10-17-2012, 12:20 PM	#28 (permalink)
UVM Hoop Cat -PREMIUM MEMBER- Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 17,459 Rep Power: 62496	Re: Starting Five In other words, I don't see how SBU competes if Brenton only takes 4.8 FGA/game again, but Voelkel will probably take around 4.3 FGA/game for us again. Unless Coley is going to take 17 shots a game, who else scores for SBU? I guess we're going to find out. __________________ "Let's win this game for all the small schools that never had a chance to get here" - Hoosiers, & UVM mens basketball NCAA's 2005

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