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Old 11-04-2012, 05:42 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

so my opinions on players after the first two games. I was only able to listen to the concordia game 2nd half as the free internet feed bunked out.

Luke Apfeld- He's going to be great this year. Love his hustle, his shooting touch. The first game his 5 to's was not his fault. Atleast two were the result of bad passes. He didnt have the best shooting percentage against concordia but was able to get his own offensive rebounds a few times.

Rugg- Wow. He has improved so much over the offseason. He added a bunch of muscle. He is a legit PF in the AE. He can score down low with some nice footwork. Great hustle. Can shoot the 3. Has always been an offensive player hopefully his defense improved as as well. The added muscle should help a lot down low.

Rusin- I like his game. He is a good scorer who can score in bunches. Good shooter. His first game he had some bad passes that took away from a high percentage night. The second game he couldnt get his shot to fall. He will be one of the top 3 scorers on the team with rugg and apfeld.

Sandro- Doesnt try to do to much. He is efficient with the few shots he takes which is nice to have in a role player. Sneaky getting a few steals the first game. Hasnt racked up a lot of ast or turnovers. Doesnt create much off the dribble for teammates but is a threat shooting the ball. I really like him taking pressure shots at the end of the game. He has came up big a few times last year.

Voelkel- He is Mr. Everything. The one big difference I've seen is he is a lot more comfortable shooting this year. He has taken a couple 3's the first couple of games. He didnt hit them but 1 rimmed out. It's the confidence to take them that matters. He has 10 points in the last game. He has hit his free throws so far. I dont see him scoring 10 ppg but I see him in the 6-8 mark. I think the biggest thing is having opposing defenses no he can take and hit an outside shot.
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Old 11-04-2012, 06:03 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

O'day- A lot of people are harsh on him expecting a lot from a much hyped recruit. He is a freshmen. Freshmen will have the biggest strides in a season. He has shown some nerves but he has also shown the athleticism and hustle he brings to the table. I like him as a great big to have off the bench. People mention him starting but clancy rugg is playing great right now. The only way I see that happening is with an injury or the coaching staff deciding rugg plays better with the second team as a go to scorer.

Trey- Some people like his calm presence on the floor. I like it as well just not his production. He doesnt make a lot of dumb decisions but he is 3-13 with 1 ast and 3 to's. This team is still gelling some to's and miscue's will happen but Trey hasnt produced. I like the extra body off the bench. I like him over Elbaum late in games because he can hit ft's. He can play both g positions which is nice. I'm still waiting for him to have a good game though.

Elbaum- Great defense but offensively he hasnt shown much. can't hit ft's and has more to's than ast. Hopefully he needs some time to gel with teammates as well.

Kilpatrick- Still a freshmen. Great athlete. Wont see much time backing up Voelkel this year. He should develop into a good player for us.
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If you guys HYPE him don't you think expectations will follow. After all it was the UVM people who did all the hyping!

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If you guys HYPE him don't you think expectations will follow. After all it was the UVM people who did all the hyping!

You reap what you sow!
I am not at all down on O'Day, he is looking like a future force in this league. I think of him as an Evan Fjeld type player and he is way ahead of where Fjeld was after two games.
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If you guys HYPE him don't you think expectations will follow. After all it was the UVM people who did all the hyping!

You reap what you sow!
I am big on O'day as anyone but I have reasonable expectations for a freshmen big man. Some people expect as much from a freshmen big man as they do a freshmen guard. Big men have the biggest adjustment to make going from high school to college. I also don't hype recruits for what they do as a freshmen but what they will do as an upper classmen.
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If you guys HYPE him don't you think expectations will follow. After all it was the UVM people who did all the hyping!

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Wrong. It's the writers of Recruiting sites/bloggers/ Twitter that do all the hyping.

All UVM fans did was provide links.

As for O'Day- he played well against Concordia and is right where any reasonable person would expect him to be.

We have a balanced team and minutes/ the ball is going to get spread around. Thinking a freshman is going to get a double/double each night on this team is...crazy unrealistic.
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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

The growth and transformation of Clancy Rugg is remarkable. It also helps a great deal that his skill set is a perfect fit for our offensive system- because he's an outside/in forward with a face up game, can go to rim, and range.
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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

O'day is just fine... let me propose this, who was the last player that was 6'9"or over that has played as good for us as him in their first two college games.....anyone? give the kid a break!!!! he will be much better by the end of the season then he is now. .... and before anyone brings up coppenrath he was listed @ 6'7" and 190lbs as a redshirt freshman.
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When was the last time an Albany big came close to living up to the hype?
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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

O'Day played as advertised against Concordia. If anything, he lived up to the hype. I think UVM fans are gonna be happy.
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Typical Drunkidiot stuff no one mentioned UA in the conversation. Some UVM people expressed they were not so impressed with O'Day.

I have no opinion because I have never seen him play. I'm sure he'll go for 20 & 10 against a weak UA team!!!!

But, to answer your question I don't think any - but that could always change who knows

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O'day is just fine... let me propose this, who was the last player that was 6'9"or over that has played as good for us as him in their first two college games.....anyone? give the kid a break!!!! he will be much better by the end of the season then he is now. .... and before anyone brings up coppenrath he was listed @ 6'7" and 190lbs as a redshirt freshman.
Ben Crenca. Unfortunately, injuries have really hampered him and it looks as though he may be battling them again this season.

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Re: (EXH) Concordia @ Vermont 11-3 / 4:30et

... and only 7 assists for the game on 16 TOs? I'm not worried about Trey and the big guys getting points as long as passing improves.
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