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Old 11-15-2012, 08:04 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Yeah...SMH...that comment has all kinds of Wrong with it as well.
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Old 11-15-2012, 08:22 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Re: Vermont @ UConn 11-13

Didn't get around to posting this in here... I liked what I saw from the Catamounts. Article with quotes from Becker, Apfeld, and some praise from Ollie... I've started taking my own photos at games, so there are some of them in here as well. http://www.onebidwonders.com/2012/11...in-67-49-loss/
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:00 AM   #78 (permalink)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I truly believe Sandro could be our go to scorer. He just has to want to be THAT guy, he's the only one who can take that step. He has all the skills to be able to score 15ppg consistently. He's a PG, but he's a natural SG. Sandro has a sweet stroke and he's sneaky, very sneaky.

I'd love to see him go out and just take the game over, or atleast try to. If he starts taking and hitting shots when he has an open look it will just open up lanes for him and make it that much easier.

He had a stretch in the second half yesterday where he did try to score the ball more. The kid is a natural, he's just not selfish enough.

Sandro shoots a respectable 42% from the floor 37% from deep (he shot 46% his freshman year) and strokes it at 80% from the FT line. He NEEDS to be taking more shots.
By the way, great piece on the UConn game, Sam.

I could not disagree with this statement more. I agree that Sandro has the ability to take and make big shots in clutch situations, but you need to remember what his job is. He is the point guard in a system oriented offense. The system is predicated on player movement and ball movement. Both have to happen for our offense to be successful. If any one guy tries to play "hero ball" the whole system will break down. Sandro should take his shots when they present themselves - which I think he has done, but to try to "go out and take the game over" would be catastrophic to our team success.
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Re: Vermont @ UConn 11-13

Good post Cats Fan, I see what you're saying about our system. However, I disagree that if Sandro tried to score the ball more it would be "catastrophic" to our teams success. PGs score the ball all the time and often DO just take the game over, even when running a similar system as Vermont.

This team needs a go to scorer when shots aren't falling. Who would you rather see try and score the ball in times like this? Because as of right now this scoring by committee thing isn't cutting it. We won't win many games if we can't figure out how to score the ball.
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Old 11-15-2012, 11:48 AM   #80 (permalink)
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Good post Cats Fan, I see what you're saying about our system. However, I disagree that if Sandro tried to score the ball more it would be "catastrophic" to our teams success. PGs score the ball all the time and often DO just take the game over, even when running a similar system as Vermont.

This team needs a go to scorer when shots aren't falling. Who would you rather see try and score the ball in times like this? Because as of right now this scoring by committee thing isn't cutting it. We won't win many games if we can't figure out how to score the ball.
Really?

We've been running the same system since Mike Lonergan got here. Pretty sure we have more wins than any other AE team over that time frame. Pretty sure we also have more wins than any other AE team since John Becker took over for Mike Lonergan running essentially the same system. We don't lead the league in scoring. We don't need to. We are consistently one of the better defensive teams and our system is pretty efficient. We can use it to play different tempos and score with efficiency. When you look at the number of points per possession, we look pretty decent. I could care less who scores. I really don't think it matters. The go to guy is going to be the guy that has the best match up on any given possession. It's really that simple for me. There will be periods of time when things don't flow and work perfectly. That happens to any team. When you look at more than a game or two here and there the system DOES work. That's what our history has proven.

By the way, you said in your first post that Sandro should "try to take the game over". That's a far cry from him "trying to score more". Two very different statements. I don't really have a problem if he takes more attempts in the flow of the offense. I think he is very underrated. To me, when you say try to take over, that means he may be taking the majority of the shots. I do not think that is the formula for more wins. I think it would do much more harm than good, if any of our guys tried to take more than 20-30% of the total attempts. Look back over the last couple of years at Brendan Bald's stats. His playing time went down with the more shots he took. There were several games when he took dramatically more shots than anyone else on the team. His percentages certainly did not warrant him taking the most shots, but he did anyway. I have no inside information, but it would not surprise me if there is a strong correlation between the reduction in his playing time last year and his eventual decision to leave the team.
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Really?

We've been running the same system since Mike Lonergan got here. Pretty sure we have more wins than any other AE team over that time frame. Pretty sure we also have more wins than any other AE team since John Becker took over for Mike Lonergan running essentially the same system. We don't lead the league in scoring. We don't need to. We are consistently one of the better defensive teams and our system is pretty efficient. We can use it to play different tempos and score with efficiency. When you look at the number of points per possession, we look pretty decent. I could care less who scores. I really don't think it matters. The go to guy is going to be the guy that has the best match up on any given possession. It's really that simple for me. There will be periods of time when things don't flow and work perfectly. That happens to any team. When you look at more than a game or two here and there the system DOES work. That's what our history has proven.

By the way, you said in your first post that Sandro should "try to take the game over". That's a far cry from him "trying to score more". Two very different statements. I don't really have a problem if he takes more attempts in the flow of the offense. I think he is very underrated. To me, when you say try to take over, that means he may be taking the majority of the shots. I do not think that is the formula for more wins. I think it would do much more harm than good, if any of our guys tried to take more than 20-30% of the total attempts. Look back over the last couple of years at Brendan Bald's stats. His playing time went down with the more shots he took. There were several games when he took dramatically more shots than anyone else on the team. His percentages certainly did not warrant him taking the most shots, but he did anyway. I have no inside information, but it would not surprise me if there is a strong correlation between the reduction in his playing time last year and his eventual decision to leave the team.
Not saying he should be a gunner, and maybe take the game over was the wrong choice of words on my part. But I do think he should be taking more shots.

As far as our system goes I said nothing about that and that wasn't the point of my post. This team needs a go to scorer when times get tough, period.

BTW, you still haven't given me a name of who you would go to.
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Not saying he should be a gunner, and maybe take the game over was the wrong choice of words on my part. But I do think he should be taking more shots.

As far as our system goes I said nothing about that and that wasn't the point of my post. This team needs a go to scorer when times get tough, period.

BTW, you still haven't given me a name of who you would go to.
I didn't give you a name, but I did answer your question. It doesn't matter if there is one guy who gets labeled as the "go to" guy. That does not matter to me at all, the same way I don't care who starts. I think having one "guy" is kind of counter to our system, anyway. The "go to" guy is going to be the player that has the best match up advantage on any given possession. It's really that simple to me. That could be any of 8 different guys on any given night. Not the answer you were looking for, but that's how I feel.

If you ask the coaches what their game plan is, they will tell you in just about every game it's to get the ball inside. I've been able to listen to pre-game scouting reports at home games for a few years now and they always talk about getting the ball inside, defend, rebound and sometimes they talk about pace of play. They NEVER talk about any specific player doing anything. I think the coaching staff believes the system will create the opportunities that we need, not the individual players. Guys ultimately need to make shots, but it's the system that creates the shots, not the individual creating them for themselves.

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Re: Vermont @ UConn 11-13

No not really, but I'll give you that one, 8 guys are harder to guard then 1.

Hopefully we can agree on the fact that if this team can start to knock down some shots they'll have more confidence in themselves. Confidence and shooting go hand in hand. Until we do find that "hot hand" our rebounding and defense should keep us in most games. IMO the only thing this team is missing is that go to guy, when things get tough I feel confident in Sandro.

Just my 2 cents.
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Agree on Apfeld. He will be more than fine in conference play and against other mid-majors. That said, he does still need to develop some more moves on the block with all the touches he will be getting.

As for the UConn game, he gets a pass from me because he was hit, bumped, and mugged on just about every FG attempt in the paint.
He has an up and under. His shot looks ugly sometimes. really lacks the hook shot which is a must for any big man.

I do think blue played poor d. Evans was 5-5 against us and really killed us. That being said Evans is a beast on the wing. We wont see many sg's of his physical stature. I didnt think he was that big.
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The one problem I had with the offense is the tempo in some games. When UVM is playing a horrible opponent....... like bing last year... I think you want to speed the game up. You want more possessions with a bad team not less. I think UVM is a little too stuck on there style when it's good to mix it up some times. Those times are against bad teams or late in games when your down.

Luke will be our top scorer. He played against UCONN and OD Anisike. By far he had the toughest match up on offense of any of our players. He will play much better against other teams. He shot a high percentage last year but this is his first year as a go to scorer. When luke realizes he doesnt need to rush watch out. Sandro though is our closer. We cant go to his sneaky lay up too often or it won't be sneaky anymore. At siena sandro missed a bunch of open jumpers. If he hit those I think he would of played more aggressive and tried to take over as a go to scorer. He still took 10 shots and made 11 points on 11 shooting possessions. I agree that Sandro can be out best scorer from the perimeter. He has been looking for shots at a good rate for a pg and he missed a few that led to less shots at Siena and had to play a tough UCONN team. I dont think sandro will take 15 shots too often but he can definitely be a double digit scorer for us.
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He has an up and under. His shot looks ugly sometimes. really lacks the hook shot which is a must for any big man.

I do think blue played poor d. Evans was 5-5 against us and really killed us. That being said Evans is a beast on the wing. We wont see many sg's of his physical stature. I didnt think he was that big.
Evans is a tank- and very quick first step for a heavy guard. Took very smart shots.

Apparently, his UConn teammates have given him the nickname "Uncle Phil" (Fresh Prince reference). Thought that was pretty funny.
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Evans is a tank- and very quick first step for a heavy guard. Took very smart shots.

Apparently, his UConn teammates have given him the nickname "Uncle Phil" (Fresh Prince reference). Thought that was pretty funny.
That's funny about Evans nickname......and I'll give Blue a pass on not contesting a couple shots. I remember watching Blue run around 2-3 screens from one side of the court to the other, he simply couldn't keep up.
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I didn't see Taggart on the bench.........
FYI Per Taggart's Twitter he stayed home from UConn game and did not travel due to injury. Not sure what extent of injury is or if he'll be at Northeastern game/status. Can't imagine he would have seen minutes against UConn either way.
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I loved what Taggart brought to the court in his limited minutes against Concordia, wouldn't mind seeing him get another go at it. Great shooter, good size, works his a$$ off and is a scrapper on D like Elbaum.
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I like Taggart, too. He is a sparkplug. He twisted his ankle in practice, I heard.

An off-the-bench flamethrower who can shoot 3s is something UVM can use.

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