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Old 12-17-2012, 09:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jordan Reed seems like he is dominating the AE stats right now, but how much is that due to the rest of the Bing players lack of quality? I'm hoping Sam will chip in or anyone who follow's the AE in depth. I think Jordan Reed is one of the top freshmen in the league if not the best, but you have to think, being that good on a team that has no other offense talent makes you look that much better.

If Reed was on Boston U, Albany or Stony Brook what would his stats look like and his role?

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Old 12-17-2012, 10:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jordan Reed seems like he is dominating the AE stats right now, but how much is that due to the rest of the Bing players lack of quality? I'm hoping Sam will chip in or anyone who follow's the AE in depth. I think Jordan Reed is one of the top freshmen in the league if not the best, but you have to think, being that good on a team that has no other offense talent makes you look that much better.

If Reed was on Boston U, Albany or Stony Brook what would his stats look like and his role?

I don't think he would be in the high teens in PPG, however I do think he would be a top rebounder on any team in the AE. Hes an excellent leaper and hes extremely aggressive so I feel like he would get ample playing time on any other team.

But, to answer your question, I don't think he'd be scoring as much on other teams, solely because he wouldn't be their primary go-to guy by default. If you look at it from Dempsey's side... hes probably telling Reed to get to the rim at all costs and as much as possible.
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Old 12-18-2012, 05:26 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Super athlete, real good athlete but at any top school in the AE (SBU or UVM) he would be asked to fit in more and therefore his present numbers would suffer. But in my opinion any of those teams would love to have him!
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Old 12-18-2012, 02:08 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Jordan Reed seems like he is dominating the AE stats right now, but how much is that due to the rest of the Bing players lack of quality? I'm hoping Sam will chip in or anyone who follow's the AE in depth. I think Jordan Reed is one of the top freshmen in the league if not the best, but you have to think, being that good on a team that has no other offense talent makes you look that much better.

If Reed was on Boston U, Albany or Stony Brook what would his stats look like and his role?
From what I have seen, Reed is a wonderful athlete (not quite in Justin Edwards' category as a pure leaper and sprinter, but also much more powerfully built), and he has a terrific motor.

With that said, if he was playing for an upper-half team, I think his numbers would be more along the lines of maybe 7-9 points and 5-8 rebounds (big margin there). What I have seen from him at Binghamton is he is surrounded by zero talent, so he is going to get a lot of touches, and he is definitely talented and motivated on the court, yet teams are not doubling him: Team's seem to play man on everyone, and he's done pretty well... I think in conference play it will be very interesting to see if, with no one else playing around him, teams decided to swarm him and make someone else beat them.

From what I've seen of Reed, he can't shoot at all right now (hitting the occasional 10 footer does not make you a shooter, and he scores 90 percent of his points right around the hoop). And while he likes to dribble a lot, his crossovers take a long time and he really puts his head down and gets tunnel vision, and he isn't particularly fast getting to the hoop off the dribble - a lot of wasted motion and energy with overly emphasized crossovers that use up way too much of the shot clock...

Getting long winded, but on a good team, I think he's still an All-Rookie type player based on his hustle, energy and athleticism, but I don't think he's putting up anything close to the numbers he has right now... My 2 cents.
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From what I have seen, Reed is a wonderful athlete (not quite in Justin Edwards' category as a pure leaper and sprinter, but also much more powerfully built), and he has a terrific motor.

With that said, if he was playing for an upper-half team, I think his numbers would be more along the lines of maybe 7-9 points and 5-8 rebounds (big margin there). What I have seen from him at Binghamton is he is surrounded by zero talent, so he is going to get a lot of touches, and he is definitely talented and motivated on the court, yet teams are not doubling him: Team's seem to play man on everyone, and he's done pretty well... I think in conference play it will be very interesting to see if, with no one else playing around him, teams decided to swarm him and make someone else beat them.

From what I've seen of Reed, he can't shoot at all right now (hitting the occasional 10 footer does not make you a shooter, and he scores 90 percent of his points right around the hoop). And while he likes to dribble a lot, his crossovers take a long time and he really puts his head down and gets tunnel vision, and he isn't particularly fast getting to the hoop off the dribble - a lot of wasted motion and energy with overly emphasized crossovers that use up way too much of the shot clock...
Getting long winded, but on a good team, I think he's still an All-Rookie type player based on his hustle, energy and athleticism, but I don't think he's putting up anything close to the numbers he has right now... My 2 cents.
holy shit. how long can a crossover actually take? I've seen some long crossovers but nothing that would make the shot clock worth mentioning
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holy shit. how long can a crossover actually take? I've seen some long crossovers but nothing that would make the shot clock worth mentioning
I don't mean on individual dribble uses it up, I mean that he has a tendency to get very dribble happy at the top of the key, using very overstated dribbles, without advancing the ball. It takes him a very long time to start his drives when he's defended. And he also seems to get tunnel vision and force his drives.
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I saw what Far is talking about- Reed would crossover dribble like 23 feet away from the hoop against Michigan and wouldn't go anywhere.

Everyone can crossover dribble, very few can actually do it effectively.
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