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Old 12-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What are the academics like at Bryant, CCSU and NJIT? Will they bring the academic level of the AE down?
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What are the academics like at Bryant, CCSU and NJIT? Will they bring the academic level of the AE down?
Don't know anything about NJIT or CCSU, but Bryant certainly would not. Pretty solid business school. It is small so it's apples and oranges, but it definitely would not be the worst academic institution in the AE by any objective standard.
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What are the academics like at Bryant, CCSU and NJIT? Will they bring the academic level of the AE down?
Bryant has high academic standards and an exceptional business program. Don't know about the other two.
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Re: Is AE expansion on the way?

Bryant, CCSU, Northeastern and UMASS (Lowell)...NJIT wants in...on the outside right now looking in.
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Bryant, CCSU, Northeastern and UMASS (Lowell)...NJIT wants in...on the outside right now looking in.
Explain Northeastern to me.

They would have a hefty CAA exit fee to pay. And they stand at least a decent chance chance to get an A10 invite in the next 5 years if the BE rocks that conference with 4-5 schools. And why do they want back in the AE? I think they would at least wait for the A10 to pass them over and raid the CAA (Mason, Drexel, etc) before even considering that.
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Miss Universe USA! The new pride of Boston University! lol. Sophomore becomes Miss Universe
What's the "lol" about? It's pretty friggan awesome.
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Re: Is AE expansion on the way?

It doesn't appear as though the NEC is long for this world, does it? If the AE goes to 12, I think Bryant + 2 NECs + NJIT sounds about right.

In the long run, depending on what this new Catholic Big East looks like, they'll raid the A-10, who will raid the MAAC, who will raid some combination of the AE and NEC.

I leave the Patriot out because they just expanded and I don't see any schools leaving there. There are HC people who seem to think the Catholics or the A-10 might want them. If that happened, I'd be so shocked I might convert.
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Re: Is AE expansion on the way?

NJIT isn't happening, they don't offer enough AE sports and just look at the Athletics/MBB budgets below:

Bryant - $11.2 / $1.4
CCSU - $10.5 / $1.2
NJIT - $7.6 / $1.3

Actually, Sacred Heart is the biggest budget in the NEC at $20.1 / $1.2 (their tuition is about $32k)
That is actually bigger than QU, Monmouth, and even Stony Brook

FYI - Every budget in the AE is at least $11 / $1

I'll say it again, they should just at 2 teams and wait:
CCSU - top notch basketball, plus adds strong baseball and soccer programs; has Women's Lax, plus it a public univ. and has instant rivals.
Bryant - adds nationally-ranked MLax, an improving hoops product, a baseball team, and puts a team in RI

10 teams - 18 game home/home round robin schedule. Adds great Lax, and improves basketball and baseball.

After that, the potential candidates have much more downside to consider.
NJIT - public school, in NJ market - BUT no M/W Lax, no softball, small budget
SHU - very good all around, but nothing great – BUT does anyone want another CT program?
RMU - decent programs and excellent men's hoop – BUT a huge geographic outlier
WAG – solid programs, NYC, and good academics – BUT tiny enrollment with limited financial resources
LIU - solid hoops and NYC location - BUT academics are far worse than anything in the AE

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Re: Is AE expansion on the way?

My guess is they will add Bryant and CCSU and sit back; they should.

If the Catholic 7 raid the A-Ten...and some of the oldies don't get invited there (A-Ten)...maybe they come to the AE. Unlikely...but maybe. No reason to cap expansion by adding four now. Add two...stabilize.
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NJIT isn't happening, they don't offer enough AE sports and just look at the Athletics/MBB budgets below:

Bryant - $11.2 / $1.4
CCSU - $10.5 / $1.2
NJIT - $7.6 / $1.3

Actually, Sacred Heart is the biggest budget in the NEC at $20.1 / $1.2 (their tuition is about $32k)
That is actually bigger than QU, Monmouth, and even Stony Brook

FYI - Every budget in the AE is at least $11 / $1

I'll say it again, they should just at 2 teams and wait:
CCSU - top notch basketball, plus adds strong baseball and soccer programs; has Women's Lax, plus it a public univ. and has instant rivals.
Bryant - adds nationally-ranked MLax, an improving hoops product, a baseball team, and puts a team in RI

10 teams - 18 game home/home round robin schedule. Adds great Lax, and improves basketball and baseball.

After that, the potential candidates have much more downside to consider.
NJIT - public school, in NJ market - BUT no M/W Lax, no softball, small budget
SHU - very good all around, but nothing great BUT does anyone want another CT program?
RMU - decent programs and excellent men's hoop BUT a huge geographic outlier
WAG solid programs, NYC, and good academics BUT tiny enrollment with limited financial resources
LIU - solid hoops and NYC location - BUT academics are far worse than anything in the AE
Thanks for this. I hope the AE follows your advice.
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Bryant, CCSU, Northeastern and UMASS (Lowell)...NJIT wants in...on the outside right now looking in.
UMASS Lowell would be a great addition if they move to division I.
They play basketball at Costello Athletic Center. But they also have excellent Tsongas Center which can be converted for basketball. A-10 WBB championship in 2011 was held there.
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Thanks for this. I hope the AE follows your advice.
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FYI - Every budget in the AE is at least $11 / $1
I'm not doubting your numbers, but if the University of Maine is spending $1M+ on men's basketball, every single person who is even tangentially connected to that program needs to be fired and banned from working for the state of Maine ever again. That is absolutely ridiculous. I could accomplish what they accomplish for 45 cents and a pack of jolly ranchers.
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I'm not doubting your numbers, but if the University of Maine is spending $1M+ on men's basketball, every single person who is even tangentially connected to that program needs to be fired and banned from working for the state of Maine ever again. That is absolutely ridiculous. I could accomplish what they accomplish for 45 cents and a pack of jolly ranchers.
I feel for you Black Bear fans.

BTW - this data came from BBState and they report that Maine spent $1,037,387 on men's basketball. Nothing is exact, but it gives you an accurate ballpark. Sorry.

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