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Old 01-16-2013, 09:46 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

I have two comments to make. First, the tired old Voelkel versus Brenton pissing match has started again. We all know where everyone stands. It seems both players are clearly the key contributors for each team and during their careers have carved honored spots in their respective program's history. That should be enough. Secondly, no reasonable SBU fan would disagree UVM has been the conference heavyweight this last decade. SBU has made strides the last few years and as a Seawolf fan I hope we can have a level of dominence during the next decade and beyond. For a little historical perspective, Stony Brook was an Eastern power in the mid to late 70's. The program reached the Division III Final 4 in 1978. Of course, this means nothing in the D1 world, but still it is something the University community can be proud of.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:46 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

I think Brenton certainly deserves some sort of recognition for his career. SBU coaching has built the team into a program expected to be successful after he's gone, but the way he plays has probably been a major attraction for the talent that the team has now. He's a charismatic team player who showers his teammates with dimes.
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Old 01-17-2013, 02:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

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Maybe this isn't the best way to go about asking the question. But I'll propose it here anyways. I'm new to the AE and don't have the greatest knowledge of past players.

But it seems as if every very school in the conference has had their share of great players. My question is how many schools have had a run of 5 or more consecutive losing seasons, and then recruit a player who led them to 3 regular season championships* during his tenure there? This guy has newly acquired records to long to list, awards piled up, and and the team working towards the NCAA tourney this year.

You guys have more insight on the topic then I do. It's just that all my friends from the band and I are wondering...has TB done enough to get his number retired and hung from the rafters?

SBpatriot and OBW, I'm wondering what you and everyone else thinks the chances are? A few have us have even considered starting an online petition we could send to Fiore after we get a couple thousand votes.
Sign me up !!!!
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Old 01-17-2013, 04:50 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

Anyone interested in sharing this petition please do so! If I should change any wording or if anyone has a better idea of how to help us get the word out on it please let us know.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/retiring_tb24/
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

Retiring his jersey is different from retiring the #24
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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we want both to happen
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Old 01-17-2013, 05:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

If he gets SBU to the big dance this year then yes...to me the retiring of a jersey is the highest of honors and should be done only for the extraordinary players...that have achieved greatness relative to our level...

UA has retired the number of one player...Jamar Wilson...that is the type of accomplished career that deserves a retired jersey. Sadly for SBU fans Tommy is no Jamar although he is a very well rounded/tough nosed player.
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:00 PM   #23 (permalink)
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If TB leads them to the championship this year, that means while he's been there SBU will have either won the regular season or made it to the championship game 4 out of his 5 years here.
You and Tommy should get a room.
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Anyone interested in sharing this petition please do so! If I should change any wording or if anyone has a better idea of how to help us get the word out on it please let us know.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/retiring_tb24/
can we send one to president obama? they are popular these days
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Old 01-17-2013, 06:39 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

Guys I hate to tell you this but if you have to start a petition to persuade the school/Administration to retire his jersey he probably doesn't deserve the accolade.

His Jersey will be retired because it is deserved and everyone realizes it - it's a no brainer whose jersey should be retired.

If you have push people it probably isn't deserved.

Usually numbers or jerseys are retired a few years or more after a player graduates and leaves - no coertion needed.

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If he gets SBU to the big dance this year then yes...to me the retiring of a jersey is the highest of honors and should be done only for the extraordinary players...that have achieved greatness relative to our level...

UA has retired the number of one player...Jamar Wilson...that is the type of accomplished career that deserves a retired jersey. Sadly for SBU fans Tommy is no Jamar although he is a very well rounded/tough nosed player.
If tommy wins this year their careers are comparable. Tommy needs an NCAA tournement appearance. obviously jamar will have more points and assists and an NCAA tournement appearance but after that it is pretty close. Tommy will have more rebounds, steals,less turnovers, wins, regular season titles, NIT appearances. Tommy has been on the All Rookie team, second team, all defensive team, defensive player of the year, and first team all conference. Tommy has school records in steals and rebounds and with some help will finish second in assists. Tommy can guard any position on the court and like jamar has the ability to take over the game without scoring a basket.


Jamar was better but to say that "sadly Tommy is no jamar" is a little much. If SBU wins he should have it retired. Looking at our most recent recruitign class Tommy has had a bigger effect on our program as a whole.
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/r...b24/signatures

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Guys I hate to tell you this but if you have to start a petition to persuade the school/Administration to retire his jersey he probably doesn't deserve the accolade.

His Jersey will be retired because it is deserved and everyone realizes it - it's a no brainer whose jersey should be retired.

If you have push people it probably isn't deserved.

Usually numbers or jerseys are retired a few years or more after a player graduates and leaves - no coertion needed.

Just my thoughts.
probably the best thought all day on the boards
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Re: Retiring the number of an all time great

Shhh, Patch c'mon I want to see how long this thing can go.

Creating an online petition to have a player's jersey retired....while he's still playing. And it's serious. You can't make this stuff up.

This has been comedic gold. I see Salty's posts are becoming truly inspirational to some of the other SBU fans.
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