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Old 01-17-2013, 12:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes when you lose the other team always played superb and when we win the other team couldn't make a shot. So which one will it be Friday? Will we just play superb or will UVM not be able to make a shot
The point is you're not 28pts better than BU. We're not 25 pts better than Albany. We lost to BU by 10 pts- you think BU is 10-pts better than we are? Look at their record.

Basketball doesn't work that way. We lost to Bing last year, so was Bing better than we were? No.
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who beat Northeastern...who beat Belmont...who beat Stanford...who beat Northwestern...who beat Baylor...who beat Kentucky...who beat Maryland...who beat NC State...who beat Duke!!!

So there you have it...SBU, by virtue of that win over Boston U, will beat Duke when/if they meet in the NCAA Tournament!

You're welcome Seawolves fans...
Thank you! I could not have come up with anything better than that! Seawolves09 and NYCwolf - you guys must be doing something right. UVMhoopcat hasn't brought your moms into this.
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Thank you! I could not have come up with anything better than that! Seawolves09 and NYCwolf - you guys must be doing something right. UVMhoopcat hasn't brought your moms into this.
Oh, come on now you aren't the only one that gets to be funny.
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Old 01-17-2013, 12:31 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The point is you're not 28pts better than BU. We're not 25 pts better than Albany. We lost to BU by 10 pts- you think BU is 10-pts better than we are? Look at their record.

Basketball doesn't work that way. We lost to Bing last year, so was Bing better than we were? No.
I'm just having some fun, I've been around basketball along time I know how these things go. My real opinion would be that Stony Brook is better than BU, not 28 points better, but better. Is Stony Brook better than UVM? I can't say. They haven't played. It's alot about matchups and Stony Brook hasn't matched up well against Vermont in the past several years. I think this year we matchup better, especially for Fridays game with Apfeld out and the way Warney is playing. Either way, looking forward to being at Patrick Gymnasium on Friday watching a great game.
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Yes when you lose the other team always played superb and when we win the other team couldn't make a shot. So which one will it be Friday? Will we just play superb or will UVM not be able to make a shot
You have no clue what you are talking about. People have commented on how UVM fans never give the other team credit when we lose and that we always chalk it up to what we didn't/can't do. I come to expect this out of most SB fans.
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You have no clue what you are talking about. People have commented on how UVM fans never give the other team credit when we lose and that we always chalk it up to what we didn't/can't do. I come to expect this out of most SB fans.
If you read my second post I was just messing with you guys. Every team's fanbase has that mentality to a certain degree.
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Will Kam Mitchell play for SBU?
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Old 01-17-2013, 01:43 PM   #38 (permalink)
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guys BU was picked by the coaches to finish 3rd. vermont first and SBU second. BU was a test for vermont. Vermont failed the test. BU was then a test for SBU. SBU passed with flying colors. Vermont SBU will be a test for both teams and will most likely show who will be the league favorite and #1 seed. you can say all you want BU was superb against vermont and BU went cold against SBU or SBU's defense was lights out. No matter how you slice it vermont failed the test. Remember last year when Vermont won the championship and SBU shot 29%? Did any vermont fans acknowledge SBU's bad shooting? no it was because Vermont's defense was outstanding.

The fact remains with vermont being the preseason #1 pick, defending champ, returned a bulk of guys, and at home they should win this game. SBU has lost the past 2 years at vermont in blow out fashion. This is more of a test for SBU than it is vermont.
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[QUOTE=nycwolf;7080714Remember last year when Vermont won the championship and SBU shot 29%? Did any vermont fans acknowledge SBU's bad shooting? no it was because Vermont's defense was outstanding.
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Oh- don't worry, it was a combination of both

UVM played great D but SBU couldn't buy a basket either and had a dreadful shooting game. Neither could Vermont, really.

But SBU was prone to bad shooting because Dougher couldn't buy a shot for SBU down the stretch last season and really killed you guys, and Coley is about as streaky as streak shooters get.
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guys BU was picked by the coaches to finish 3rd. vermont first and SBU second. BU was a test for vermont. Vermont failed the test. BU was then a test for SBU. SBU passed with flying colors. Vermont SBU will be a test for both teams and will most likely show who will be the league favorite and #1 seed. you can say all you want BU was superb against vermont and BU went cold against SBU or SBU's defense was lights out. No matter how you slice it vermont failed the test. Remember last year when Vermont won the championship and SBU shot 29%? Did any vermont fans acknowledge SBU's bad shooting? no it was because Vermont's defense was outstanding.

The fact remains with vermont being the preseason #1 pick, defending champ, returned a bulk of guys, and at home they should win this game. SBU has lost the past 2 years at vermont in blow out fashion. This is more of a test for SBU than it is vermont.
You are a little off here. Home games are not suppose to be tests. They are suppose to be wins. Road games against quality opponents are tests. UVM has had a test already. SB has not. There is a big difference from a home game and a road game. Even if UVM wins they are not necessarily the favorites. They will have as many losses as UA and SB and UVM will have 0 quality road wins in conference play. That does not make them the favorite. I don't think BU gets picked 3rd without O'brien.

Also Coley and Dougher choking in the championship was mentioned many times by people from about every team in the AE. That may be an exaggeration but it's a lot closer to the truth than no one mentioning SB's bad shooting. It was def a Coley and Dougher choke job. Any good defense makes players play bad.
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Will Kam Mitchell play for SBU?
No he has to sit out a year, he's a transfer student. He will have 4 years of eligibility though.
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Kam Mitchell does not have to sit out a year. He will begin next season with 4 years of eligibility. He has never played for another college nor has he enrolled at another Division 1 institution. He originally committed to wagner but hurley left so he de-committed and committed to SBU. I think SBU was out of scholarships at the time so he chose to come this semester rather than pay his own way a full year.
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He ment can Kam play this year...my answer...no he has to sit out a year (this year)
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Re: Stony Brook @ Vermont 1-18

Thanks for the info on Mitchell.

BTW, there are only 3 men's D1 basketball games tomorrow night in the whole universe, so UVM/SBU is likely to have a lot more viewers than normal. I'm hoping for a game where neither team "loses" to the other. In the last week or so there have been some of these (NCS/Duke, IU/UW come to mind) and they not only entertain, but show the conference at its best.
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I expect we will see Brenton and Voelkel guarding each other at least for a portion of the game. My reasoning is that both players have a penchant for getting under the skin of the opposing players most important guy. I think both fans would agree that Brenton and Voelkel are the most important players on their respective teams. Hopefully Brian can keep his cool; he can let his emotions get the best of him.
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