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Old 02-13-2013, 12:31 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Choose to believe whomever you want. I know my sources...and I trust them since they have rarely been wrong, if ever.

Furthermore, why would there be sour grapes? Because Fiore allegedly shot down a conference that is allegedly better than the AE and your fans would love to go to (as would some of our fans)?

Does it make sense that Fiore turned this down? Turned it down because of a $1mm exit fee that you would have to pay if you moved up to FBS.

Let me really break it down for you: If you could afford FBS, and you do have sugar daddies...this is clear to all and not a swipe at SBU, you wouldn't worry about spending 2-4 years in the CAA and THEN moving to FBS while paying the fee.

No...nope, doesn't make senes that a higher profile TV contract, a national name (CAA is whether we want to admit it or not), and sports parked in one conference with great academic schools would be something Fiore turns down.

Unless it was never offered, of course.
The CAA is NOT a national name..........and it definitely won't be from here on out.
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I can give you one answer "stabily". As unstable as AE seems, its much much much more stable than CAA. As lot of posters already mentioned above, when JMU goes FBS, GMU goes to A-10, then its just a lateral move to another ONE BID conference. Hold on a second, CAA is ALREADY a ONE BID conference with them!!! No one knows who is staying and who is leaving and who is coming to CAA anymore.
I guarantee you that it is someone South of VA.
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then its just a lateral move to another ONE BID conference. Hold on a second, CAA is ALREADY a ONE BID conference with them!!! No one knows who is staying and who is leaving and who is coming to CAA anymore.
I'm just poking holes in your thought process here, not saying I'm disagreeing, but this fact does not seem to stop other schools from moving from a one bid league to another one bid league. BU to Patriot, Loyola (MD) to Patriot, CofC to CAA, Quinnipiac to MAAC, etc.
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Is UML going to be any good? Will they even win 1 game?
UMMMM - Just read up on the UML coach, UNH fans will love this, he comes from the coaching tree of the great Bill Herrion - http://www.goriverhawks.com/roster.a...ll&roster=105&

Also, looking at that roster there are only 2 players graduating. Not very much size. If they join for next year, should go 1-15 or 2-14
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I'm just poking holes in your thought process here, not saying I'm disagreeing, but this fact does not seem to stop other schools from moving from a one bid league to another one bid league. BU to Patriot, Loyola (MD) to Patriot, CofC to CAA, Quinnipiac to MAAC, etc.
We can add Monmouth to the MAAC and we've basically got a comprehensive list of all such northeast movement and there is an explanation for all of it. The PL holds a lot of appeal as an academic league, Quinnipiac administration is always looking for a get rich quick scheme, CofC is afraid the entire socon will collapse and Monmouth wanted to join their fellow Catholics
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Lets see.. who should I believe.. them or you!

You really dont like the fact that we turned down CAA all sports invite and showed loyalty to AE. Its more than just loyalty. It makes more sense. Think of travel cost. Not just for MBB but for all other sports men and women. Not only to VA schools but also to UNC and now CofC.

And we have seen what happened to football programs in NU and Hofstra who could not afford it all.

Stony Brook is happy in AE. Fiore said it many times and I believe him.

AE gives us the best place to get to NCAA tournaments in Basketball and Baseball (I know.. no need to bring it up that we have yet to reach one in basketball). We can still schedule OOC games with VA schools if we want to. And we have a perfect place for our football program now.

Just because Albany was not invited all sports, don't cry over sour grapes!
It's a well established fact that SBU was never extended a full invite...CAA guys on here can confirm. When Fiore found out (blocked by Drexel and Hofstra) he tweeted his infamous tweet regarding hypocrisy.

If you doubt our credibility...UA fans were the ones who broke the SBU and UA football to CAA news. In fact a few days prior to the news coming out posted it on the SBU board.

So...don't tell us you were invited...you weren't!

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We can add Monmouth to the MAAC and we've basically got a comprehensive list of all such northeast movement and there is an explanation for all of it. The PL holds a lot of appeal as an academic league, Quinnipiac administration is always looking for a get rich quick scheme, CofC is afraid the entire socon will collapse and Monmouth wanted to join their fellow Catholics
Monmouth isn't moving to the MAAC now because NEC isn't going to keep them as associate members for football. Thought I read that somewhere.

And moving from the AE to CAA couldn't be explained in any countless ways? Of course it could. Read the thread title, the AE just had to add UMass-Lowell...that should really sum up and be eye-opening to where things are with the AE.
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Monmouth isn't moving to the MAAC now because NEC isn't going to keep them as associate members for football. Thought I read that somewhere.

And moving from the AE to CAA couldn't be explained in any countless ways? Of course it could. Read the thread title, the AE just had to add UMass-Lowell...that should really sum up and be eye-opening to where things are with the AE.
I guess I just don't think UML is that bad of a get and don't think NU and DRexel are that big draws
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I guess I just don't think UML is that bad of a get and don't think NU and DRexel are that big draws
I don't either, and I'm not knocking UMass-Lowell and think they are a fine addition given current make-up of the conference, but if you think there's a single person in this conference from top to bottom that would rather be affiliated with UMass-Lowell- a program that is still D2 as I type this- over Northeastern or Drexel, that's just crazy talk.
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It's a well established fact that SBU was never extended a full invite...CAA guys on here can confirm. When Fiore found out (blocked by Drexel and Hofstra) he tweeted his infamous tweet regarding hypocrisy.

If you doubt our credibility...UA fans were the ones who broke the SBU and UA football to CAA news. In fact a few days prior to the news coming out posted it on the SBU board.

So...don't tell us you were invited...you weren't!

Fiore like jilted girlfriend...pouted and is now saying...fine, we didn't want you anyway. Sure you didn't!
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I don't either, and I'm not knocking UMass-Lowell and think they are a fine addition given current make-up of the conference, but if you think there's a single person in this conference from top to bottom that would rather be affiliated with UMass-Lowell- a program that is still D2 as I type this- over Northeastern or Drexel, that's just crazy talk.
But that's not exactly the choice as the CAA also has townson and UNCW and the AE also has UVM and Binghamton (purely from an institutional standpoint recent athletic success aside)

E: I'm not even sure UML will be worse then a school like Drexel or Hofstra in the long run. Things like being D II are temporary.
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UMMMM - Just read up on the UML coach, UNH fans will love this, he comes from the coaching tree of the great Bill Herrion - http://www.goriverhawks.com/roster.a...ll&roster=105&

Also, looking at that roster there are only 2 players graduating. Not very much size. If they join for next year, should go 1-15 or 2-14
They also have former UConn C Soulemane Wayne as an assistant

Their big scorer, Akeem Williams, from Winchendon was actually a border line D1 player. Had interest from Sacred Heart and some other school called "Stony Brook"

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/ba...akeem-williams
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I don't either, and I'm not knocking UMass-Lowell and think they are a fine addition given current make-up of the conference, but if you think there's a single person in this conference from top to bottom that would rather be affiliated with UMass-Lowell- a program that is still D2 as I type this- over Northeastern or Drexel, that's just crazy talk.
I get it, but point is we can not just pick the CAA northern schools like NU and say its more attractive comparing to UML. Who wants to fly men and women's olympic teams all the way to NC? Its expensive.
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They also have former UConn C Soulemane Wayne as an assistant

Their big scorer, Akeem Williams, from Winchendon was actually a border line D1 player. Had interest from Sacred Heart and some other school called "Stony Brook"

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/ba...akeem-williams
FWIW, they also had a commitment two years ago (I believe it was) for a kid that wound up eventually switching very late to an offer from Temple.

Also for 2013, they have Tyler Gibson committed, who (at the point of writing) had at least received interest from Bryant and Hartford.
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I don't either, and I'm not knocking UMass-Lowell and think they are a fine addition given current make-up of the conference, but if you think there's a single person in this conference from top to bottom that would rather be affiliated with UMass-Lowell- a program that is still D2 as I type this- over Northeastern or Drexel, that's just crazy talk.
Provided they invest in athletics as it has been suggested they are, I think they will be very good. Seriously, when this conference lost Hofstra, Delaware, Drexel, Towson & Northeastern a little later, it appeared as this league was gonna fall apart and die. Then the league adds UMBC, Albany, Stony Brook & Bing...pretty much mostly all just moving up to D1 from the D2 ranks. Low & behold, 10+ years later, it looks as though those 4 have done a pretty good job of replacing those that departed. At the time it happened, didn't look promising...

Right now, losing BU & adding UML doesn't look very good either...I say let's see what happens.

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