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umainealum · 02-13-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dane96

Being balls out and creating a football league would help.

This is what i was hoping for as well. Felt like the "perfect storm" was here with all this realignment, BU leaving, etc for the conference to finally do it. If they had, you most likely could have brought in Bryant & CSU, had Monmouth as an affiliate and been ok. Obviously would want at least one and probably three more members at that point, but that could have been done as I'm guessing Rhode Island would have been interested in that league for football.

I know, that football league wouldn't have the power, tradition and appeal of the CAA, but it would help to contain costs and would still have 4 teams that were in the NCAA Playoffs in the last couple of years. Out of conference games could always be scheduled with Delaware, JMU, Towson, etc if wanted.

Blakely4Prez · 02-13-2013, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Dane96

OMG...I have heard some funny things but "solid new destination city". You need to get out more my friend...Newark is far from a destination city unless you want to see TOTAL RECALL live and in person.

by solid destination city I meant new state

umainealum · 02-13-2013, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Dane96

OMG...I have heard some funny things but "solid new destination city". You need to get out more my friend...Newark is far from a destination city unless you want to see TOTAL RECALL live and in person.

+1...Newark is a shithole and armpit. "Newark" and "destination city" would only be in the same sentence for people looking to score drugs or witness homicides. God, I hate that place with a passion!

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 02-13-2013, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jrobes01

Was posted on our USCHO thread.

Makes sense, that's cool. Welcome to this board.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 02-13-2013, 09:10 AM

Newark, Trenton, and Camden. Some of my favorite places to holiday.

NotDeadYet · 02-13-2013, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by umainealum

+1...Newark is a shithole and armpit. "Newark" and "destination city" would only be in the same sentence for people looking to score drugs or witness homicides. God, I hate that place with a passion!

Newark bad? Why, it's such a friendly place that they have street hostesses on every corner just in case you're lonely.

umainealum · 02-13-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by NotDeadYet

Newark bad? Why, it's such a friendly place that they have street hostesses on every corner just in case you're lonely.

You are so correct...how could I forget the glorious escorts that can show you around the hot spots? Thank you for the correction to my post.

**UVM Hoop Cat** · 02-13-2013, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Blakely4Prez

Also on the front with many complaining about not adding Bryant, they've got some integrity and are not going to dick over the conference that gave them a shot the moment they get eligible for NCAA bids. Lets go back 4 year ago, NEC was the only one who would accept them, if they tried to bolt to a conference with no football and ask that former conference who stuck it out there for them to be an associate member in that conference...forget it!

If anything it had all to do with the latter (football) and most likely zero to do with the former (loyalty).

Nobody wants to stay in the NEC unless they have to, which for football, Bryant does...for now.

Binghamtonswag · 02-13-2013, 09:15 AM

To those saying that this and the NJIT moves are signals for SBU and UA departing I'm going to have to disagree. Those schools are the big draws for this conference going forward and the moves were likely made with their approval. Both the schools being added would be mid sized publics with room for growth both academically and in their athletic departments. I also have a feeling SBU and UA are being pressured by the SUNY commissioner to stay in the conference with binghamton. After all most of the rumors suggest that SBU has already received an all sports CAA invite. On top of that is anyone sure the CAA will be anything more then a lateral move for those two schools after the A10 and PL pick off the best programs?

UMLFan · 02-13-2013, 09:17 AM

Apparently the staff at Lowell was told this was happening two weeks ago, and it was also mentioned in some classes last week.

UVM7680 · 02-13-2013, 09:18 AM

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It's good in HEA because they can take kids that don't meet the standards at NU, BU, BC, etc. They traditionally have a lot of French Canadians whose knowledge of English isn't strong - but they can get them in as a state school.

I expect you're right, but I'm sure that there are plenty of kids there getting a solid education. One former Vermont HS hockey player, Riley Wetmore of Missisquoi, was featured last month in a Burlington Free Press article.

Plus, they have a great mascot name in the River Hawks.

Is UML to the AE official? Nothing on the AE website, but as we know that's hardly an indicator of anything.

Dane96 · 02-13-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Binghamtonswag

To those saying that this and the NJIT moves are signals for SBU and UA departing I'm going to have to disagree. Those schools are the big draws for this conference going forward and the moves were likely made with their approval. Both the schools being added would be mid sized publics with room for growth both academically and in their athletic departments. I also have a feeling SBU and UA are being pressured by the SUNY commissioner to stay in the conference with binghamton. After all most of the rumors suggest that SBU has already received an all sports CAA invite. On top of that is anyone sure the CAA will be anything more then a lateral move for those two schools after the A10 and PL pick off the best programs?

Brother...I can say this with a fact: If UA and SBU (I am pretty confident aside from what Fiore said and Newsweek reported, the opposite was true) are ever offered a full-conference membership to the CAA, and this league is not Southern oriented...they would both bolt in a NY minute.

From UA's standpoint...the committment to football and title ix were the only issues from us becoming a full-funded sports program. Those issues are gone now.

And Zympher is a big sports fan...she's not stopping teams from moving on, nor does she have the political power to do so.

NotDeadYet · 02-13-2013, 09:21 AM

Back to the topic, UML has really worked to improve the academic offerings and student body. The geographic fit is great and they have some history with some AE schools from hockey. They have some great athletic facilities and a big city to recruit from. I remember when the SUNY schools were considered "safety" schools and that has changed, so I can't see any reason to get snooty.

Binghamtonswag · 02-13-2013, 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dane96

Brother...I can say this with a fact: If UA and SBU (I am pretty confident aside from what Fiore said and Newsweek reported, the opposite was true) are ever offered a full-conference membership to the CAA, and this league is not Southern oriented...they would both bolt in a NY minute.

From UA's standpoint...the committment to football and title ix were the only issues from us becoming a full-funded sports program. Those issues are gone now.

And Zympher is a big sports fan...she's not stopping teams from moving on, nor does she have the political power to do so.

Why would the CAA offer football only membership to those schools and not full membership when they're having trouble recruiting Davidson out of the freaking socon

Dane96 · 02-13-2013, 09:28 AM

You must be new to the whole CAA process. There are about 8 schools on the CAA's speed dial. 3 of them (and maybe Maine if they come back North) are on the list. So let's say all 5 football affiliates (Richmond included), Coastal, Elon, and Liberty.

02-13-2013, 09:10 AM	#95 (permalink)
UVM Hoop Cat -PREMIUM MEMBER- Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Boston Posts: 17,418 Rep Power: 62496	Re: UMass Lowell to America East Newark, Trenton, and Camden. Some of my favorite places to holiday. __________________ "Let's win this game for all the small schools that never had a chance to get here" - Hoosiers, & UVM mens basketball NCAA's 2005

02-13-2013, 09:15 AM	#99 (permalink)
Binghamtonswag Rookie Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 82 Rep Power: 1	Re: UMass Lowell to America East To those saying that this and the NJIT moves are signals for SBU and UA departing I'm going to have to disagree. Those schools are the big draws for this conference going forward and the moves were likely made with their approval. Both the schools being added would be mid sized publics with room for growth both academically and in their athletic departments. I also have a feeling SBU and UA are being pressured by the SUNY commissioner to stay in the conference with binghamton. After all most of the rumors suggest that SBU has already received an all sports CAA invite. On top of that is anyone sure the CAA will be anything more then a lateral move for those two schools after the A10 and PL pick off the best programs?

02-13-2013, 09:17 AM	#100 (permalink)
UMLFan Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Nashua, NH Posts: 23 Rep Power: 0	Re: UMass Lowell to America East Apparently the staff at Lowell was told this was happening two weeks ago, and it was also mentioned in some classes last week.

02-13-2013, 09:21 AM	#103 (permalink)
NotDeadYet Player Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Burlington, VT Posts: 875 Rep Power: 35420	Re: UMass Lowell to America East Back to the topic, UML has really worked to improve the academic offerings and student body. The geographic fit is great and they have some history with some AE schools from hockey. They have some great athletic facilities and a big city to recruit from. I remember when the SUNY schools were considered "safety" schools and that has changed, so I can't see any reason to get snooty.

02-13-2013, 09:28 AM	#105 (permalink)
Dane96 Star Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Boston Posts: 3,413 Rep Power: 23593	Re: UMass Lowell to America East You must be new to the whole CAA process. There are about 8 schools on the CAA's speed dial. 3 of them (and maybe Maine if they come back North) are on the list. So let's say all 5 football affiliates (Richmond included), Coastal, Elon, and Liberty.

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