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Old 02-16-2013, 08:58 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Old 02-16-2013, 10:38 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Hartford which they were going to play the game 3 years ago. They were ok with playing in that arena then they should be ok to play in it now. SB will leave the conference no matter how much Amy Hutchthausen wipes their a,s.s. I do think SB will get a CAA invite soon after the C7 poaches. It's pointless to wipe SB's a.s.s. when they are leaving anyways.

It's like buying your gf a diamond ring when there have been plenty of signs she is going to dump as soon as a new man comes along anyways. 4 years down the road you will be without a gf and $1000 plus
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Selectively applying the bylaws now? What a sham.

No good will come out of appeasing SB in any form, if they want to try and flex their muscle tell them to hit the road, its not worth having another BU in the league. Not to mention their competitive rise in AE basketball has come at a time when the league is as weak as it has EVER been, and they still haven't made the tournament yet ....
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I kinda hope the AE blows up and UVM finds a different conference. Not sure if UVM will find a good different conference but atleast 1 with their head outta of their ass.
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Hartford which they were going to play the game 3 years ago. They were ok with playing in that arena then they should be ok to play in it now. SB will leave the conference no matter how much Amy Hutchthausen wipes their a,s.s. I do think SB will get a CAA invite soon after the C7 poaches. It's pointless to wipe SB's a.s.s. when they are leaving anyways.

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I don't know where FFTS got that Hartford hosting story in 2010 but I think he's mistaken. Stony Brook had already spent $75k renovating their arena. There's no way they were going off site.

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I have 3 big problems with this situation. The league went behind all the other schools backs, SB is getting preferential treatment that other schools wouldn't get, and a team that has to go to SB won't be able to have the 600 fans they earned to support them.

A team that makes it the championship game has earned the right to have 600 fans there supporting them. The players earned it and the fans earned it. IF they gave 600 tickets to the opponents fans it would be fine.
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I have 3 big problems with this situation. The league went behind all the other schools backs, SB is getting preferential treatment that other schools wouldn't get, and a team that has to go to SB won't be able to have the 600 fans they earned to support them.

A team that makes it the championship game has earned the right to have 600 fans there supporting them. The players earned it and the fans earned it. IF they gave 600 tickets to the opponents fans it would be fine.
What really get my goat is how the league is responsible for UVM's 4 conference losses. If the leauge hadn't made them lose those games, this would all be moot point right?
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What really get my goat is how the league is responsible for UVM's 4 conference losses. If the leauge hadn't made them lose those games, this would all be moot point right?
You keep bringing this up like this is some sort of UVM vs SBU thing, and each time is just as wrong as the first.

It's the entire conference and breaking the bylaws to appease Stony Brook and the ethical and integrity/ trust issues that are now compromised.
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Just about all of this... except for stereotyping New Yorkers...

The issue here is not with Stony Brook - every school in their position would do the exact same thing they did, can't blame Stony Brook for wanting to host it in their home gym, where they are used to playing and get a big home court advantage.

The issue here is that the league is picking and choosing when and with whom they are going to follow the league bylaws to the T and who they are going to skirt the rules for.

The other issue is that from what I am hearing the league office made this decision unilaterally - it was not voted on or approved by the other schools. Several coaches have stated that they had no idea about this decision until this week - they were completely in the dark - and that it was made a long time ago.

Stony Brook did nothing wrong, but the league is treating them differently: Make no mistake, in previous years if something like this had happened at say BU, and the Agganis was unavailable, the league would not have allowed the Terriers to play in Case - they would have made them rent out another venue. Same thing at UNH, or just about anywhere...

Furthermore, from what I'm being told, this was basically a back-door agreement the league made with SBU - "if you guys start your renovations now, then we can justify allowing you to use Pritchard."

The big thing is the league office just seeming very disingenuous... and they appear to be giving favorable treatment to one school over the rest of the conference, which is not a good sign... Furthermore, with all of this coming to light, the treatment of BU smacks of extreme hypocrisy.

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I don't know where FFTS got that Hartford hosting story in 2010 but I think he's mistaken. Stony Brook had already spent $75k renovating their arena. There's no way they were going off site.

http://www.newsday.com/sports/colleg...-nit-1.1814745
There is a disconnect here. I keep telling you I know they spent 75k to get the Arena ready for the NIT. I am also telling you, the Arena was not going to be ready for the Championship game - either because of the time it took to start renovations, or because of miscalculations and poor planning - and that had they hosted the Championship game, it would have been played in Chase. It was already worked out and agreed upon...

It may simply have been time - the NIT game was played on a Wednesday night, the Championship game would have been Saturday at 11 AM giving them almost five extra days to erect the lights, bleachers, etc. But, whatever the reason, Stony Brook was not going to be able to host the CHIP in the Arena that year, and the league did not give them a waiver to host it in Pritchard... they have reversed trajectory this year.

You keep seeing this as people saying Stony Brook did something wrong - no one's beef is with Stony Brook, it's with the league for giving them preferential treatment this time around...

They told BU in 2011 when there was a conflict with Hockey and they thought the Agganis wouldn't be available something to the extent of "tough, have it in the Agganis or rent out somewhere else big enough, because Case isn't an option."
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You keep bringing this up like this is some sort of UVM vs SBU thing, and each time is just as wrong as the first.

It's the entire conference and breaking the bylaws to appease Stony Brook and the ethical and integrity/ trust issues that are now compromised.
Holy crap, you're right. The conference tournament format is for championship game to be held at the highest seed. Approving this waiver, ensuring that is the case in 2013 shows a disgraceful lack of integrity. :shrug:
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Additionally, if member schools were aware that Bylaws were going to be broken I guarantee schools would have voted differently on whether to Enforce the bylaws against BU.

If I'm BU, I'm livid- if they still care at this point, as it just reinforces their smart decision to bolt this conference for the PL.

The whole thing stinks.
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Holy crap, you're right. The conference tournament format is for championship game to be held at the highest seed. Approving this waiver, ensuring that is the case in 2013 shows a disgraceful lack of integrity. :shrug:
Nobody has stated SBU cannot host as a #1 seed- which they have earned the right and I fully endorse.

They just have to host at a facility that has minimum capacity 3000 people- if they cant do it on their campus it's unfortunate- but its a SBU problem and not an entire conferences problem- so they do it at the nearest facility.

Again, nothing new here, they have been through this issue twice before.
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Nobody has stated SBU cannot host as a #1 seed- which they have earned the right and I fully endorse.
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No you don't. You're bitching and moaning that the AE waived a bylaw to ensure that's the case.
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No you don't. You're bitching and moaning that the AE waived a bylaw to ensure that's the case.
Yes I do. I simply don't endorse the game being played at Pritchard Gymasium, because it violates the league Bylaws.

If you have no problem with rules being broken, then that speaks to your character.
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