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Old 01-21-2016, 04:48 AM   #136 (permalink)
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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

Saw on Twitter this morning that Kendrick had re-tweeted something about Shungu going to UVM and that the next step was to sign Gray up. Could be nothing, just caught my attention.

Also saw that he posted a picture with Ben with the caption "Congrats to my brother Ben on his commitment to UVM don't be surprised with the future events involving this commitment"

Between those two things and the grumblings I heard yesterday I wouldn't be surprised with Kendrick coming to UVM.
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Old 01-24-2016, 01:38 PM   #137 (permalink)
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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

Sounds like Kendrick is ready to sign. I would feel a lot better about not getting that athletic wing if we get him.

Honestly thinking about it more I expect gray to be at uvm next year. If he wants to go to uvm which from his words say yes why would he wait an extra year. I think he is setting up getting his classes in order for the summer so he classify back to 2016.

He fits a team need and it's getting late for signing talent. I have no doubt uvm would push to get him hear a year earlier. Once his classes are set and he can graduate on time he will make his announcement. I would put money on it.

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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

How are his grades though? Not sure if he would be able to reclassify again if he hadn't taken the classes that he needs yet.
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Sounds like Kendrick is ready to sign. I would feel a lot better about not getting that athletic wing if we get him.

Honestly thinking about it more I expect gray to be at uvm next year. If he wants to go to uvm which from his words say yes why would he wait an extra year. I think he is setting up getting his classes in order for the summer so he classify back to 2016.

He fits a team need and it's getting late for signing talent. I have no doubt uvm would push to get him hear a year earlier. Once his classes are set and he can graduate on time he will make his announcement. I would put money on it.
I would put money on that not happening this year. And, that's not speculative either.
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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

My limited understanding of Kendrick's situation is that he really needs another year of maturation academically. He's an unbelievable talent, no question, but I believe he would really benefit from having a second year of prep school under his belt before he heads off to college.
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My limited understanding of Kendrick's situation is that he really needs another year of maturation academically. He's an unbelievable talent, no question, but I believe he would really benefit from having a second year of prep school under his belt before he heads off to college.
That's what I hear from my "reliable" sources in Newport. He wants to go to as good a program as he can, obviously, but UVM, AE type school may be his ceiling. May be getting dose of reality at VA...
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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

It sounds like he does want to play with Ben at uvm. I'm not sure how wanting to go as high as possible works with his recent comments and I'm guessing that's more of his old thinking that people still believe as oppose to the his own comments he made within a week or so ago. Maybe he is already realizing the lack of recruiting from bcs schools. Outside of the top ten conferences I think it's pretty much a wash as far as players wanting to go as high as possible. I think after that they are just looking at best fit.

I can definitely see him not being able to reclassify due to academics though. It is pretty easy to take a few classes which is what most people only need to graduate their senior year over the summer but it may be more than a few he needs.
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I see no reason why Kendrick wouldn't want to come to UVM. He gets to play with one of his best friends, in-front of his hometown and potentially be a star. I would hate to see him try and go higher then he should to just get buried on the bench.

He could come here and be a huge piece right from the very beginning.
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My limited understanding of Kendrick's situation is that he really needs another year of maturation academically. He's an unbelievable talent, no question, but I believe he would really benefit from having a second year of prep school under his belt before he heads off to college.
That's why I had heard as well re: academics. I wonder if he'd have trouble getting in next year?
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Re: Vermont HS BBall prospect discussion

Getting off topic a little bit, what ever happened to Marquel Webster, the guy that claimed he was getting recruited by Princeton/UPenn/other big time schools?
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I see no reason why Kendrick wouldn't want to come to UVM. He gets to play with one of his best friends, in-front of his hometown and potentially be a star. I would hate to see him try and go higher then he should to just get buried on the bench.

He could come here and be a huge piece right from the very beginning.
Honestly, UVM would be a pretty great situation for him at this point. He may have not felt that way a few years ago about UVM. There's still room to grow with this summer AAU and next season at VA- but the A10-level seems a ways off at this point. But I will say he's played in front of coaches at all these big schools being at VA- and if they are not recruiting him now then chances are they probably won't be next year either.

He still has a high ceiling and a ton of potential. I think the experience at Vermont Academy has probably been pretty eye-opening though, and it's definitely been an adjustment- going from being "the man" to having to play a role/coming off the bench. I mean, his teammates are going to Miami and Xavier, and then another is getting offers from everywhere. Confirms what many in VT probably don't want to hear, but the competition in VT public HS basketball is beyond awful- in terms of getting someone ready to play D1 basketball at least. So the experience at VA is no doubt making him a better player, but at the same time I'm sure it's been a reality check and an adjustment from doing whatever he wanted on the court in Vermont/Rice.
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Confirms what many in VT probably don't want to hear, but the competition in VT public HS basketball is beyond awful- in terms of getting someone ready to play D1 basketball at least. So the experience at VA is no doubt making him a better player, but at the same time I'm sure it's been a reality check and an adjustment from doing whatever he wanted on the court in Vermont/Rice.
I don't think you'll get much disagreement from anyone, but, it should be noted that many of the recent successful Vermonters on UVM, and elsewhere, had/have tremendous work ethics and earned being a D1 player. No matter how they end up here, guys like Matt Glass, Clancy Rugg, and my hope with Shungu, is they work really hard to become better players while they are here. It's nice because you sense it means something to them. What makes it good is that if there is a Vermont HS kid who has some D1 ability/potential, UVM being in the lower end of the college basketball scale, it provides a good fit for them.

I'm just glad for the most part, the guys who are good enough to be D1 in Vermont, are suiting up for UVM, and like I said, they're generally giving pretty good returns, and help the team win.

And like I said before, Kendrick is going to stay another year at VA.
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I don't think you'll get much disagreement from anyone, but, it should be noted that many of the recent successful Vermonters on UVM, and elsewhere, had/have tremendous work ethics and earned being a D1 player. No matter how they end up here, guys like Matt Glass, Clancy Rugg, and my hope with Shungu, is they work really hard to become better players while they are here. It's nice because you sense it means something to them. What makes it good is that if there is a Vermont HS kid who has some D1 ability/potential, UVM being in the lower end of the college basketball scale, it provides a good fit for them.

I'm just glad for the most part, the guys who are good enough to be D1 in Vermont, are suiting up for UVM, and like I said, they're generally giving pretty good returns, and help the team win.

And like I said before, Kendrick is going to stay another year at VA.

Yeah, and not to sound dismissive towards the D1 Vermont HS basketball players, because as we know there will always be those few kids that will either be already talented enough for D1 or will work towards it. Your point about all the D1 Vermont players being hard workers is well-taken. I think given the lack of exposure and lack of competition they inherently have to work extra hard, so they already have that "nothing is given, everything is earned" mentality which has served them well.

There's been a mix of kids that go the prep route- both Glass and Rugg went to NMH- certainly going to NMH helped Glass' exposure but he was always a D1 talent, and NMH seemed like it certainly helped Rugg become a more college-ready player. That being said, there's still kids from VT that didn't go prep route who did just fine in college- recent examples (obviously a lot more going back ie Orciari, Sheftic, Cieplicki's etc) but Conley, O'Shea, Rusin, and now Shungu, who I think is going to be an asset and will earn himself a scholarship.
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Yeah, and not to sound dismissive towards the D1 Vermont HS basketball players, because as we know there will always be those few kids that will either be already talented enough for D1 or will work towards it. Your point about all the D1 Vermont players being hard workers is well-taken. I think given the lack of exposure and lack of competition they inherently have to work extra hard, so they already have that "nothing is given, everything is earned" mentality which has served them well.

There's been a mix of kids that go the prep route- both Glass and Rugg went to NMH- certainly going to NMH helped Glass' exposure but he was always a D1 talent, and NMH seemed like it certainly helped Rugg become a more college-ready player. That being said, there's still kids from VT that didn't go prep route who did just fine in college- recent examples (obviously a lot more going back ie Orciari, Sheftic, Cieplicki's etc) but Conley, O'Shea, Rusin, and now Shungu, who I think is going to be an asset and will earn himself a scholarship.

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