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Old 03-15-2016, 10:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Maine fans: a plea for sanity

Hi, my name is ccd494 and I like to discuss Maine basketball. I think there are numerous topics that are interesting and worthy of discussion, including the pace and space style of play Walsh has adopted and whether that was an indication of his intent to continue to play that way moving forward or a response to the personnel on the roster; the large number of guards on the roster and whether that is an intentional decision or just a product of taking the best player available; whether the team's continued inability to defend is something to be concerned about in the future, and many other topics.

However, I have a problem, and that problem is that any discussion of University of Maine basketball occurs on the Maine high school basketball website. I CANNOT visit that site. I think that most of the posters here would agree I am fairly reasonable. I can get grouchy at times, but I can generally converse at an adult level. Visiting the MBR forum makes me want to destroy my computer/tablet/iphone/whatever device I am using at the time.

My issues are numerous. First, it delves into high school sports at an incredibly creepy level. I don't need to know what is going on behind the scenes at a certain high school. I don't need a parent rant about why his kid's coach is a moron. I don't need to, in any way, hear about the inner politics of Maine AAU basketball.

Second, the amount of old white dudes convinced (CONVINCED) that if they were in their primes right now they would walk on the court and beat the University of Maine in a game of five on five is ridiculous. Nevermind that they never shot a jumper and instead were putting up two hand set shots. Never mind that there was no three point line when they played (an innovation they despise). Never mind that the most athletic player on the court could barely elevate and touch the peach basket they were playing with. But because Stearns High in 1952 was able to go down and compete with Boston Latin, that means that Stearns High of 2016 could run top New England prep schools off the court if they just had some fundamentals.

Third, and god, the fundamentals vs. athleticism discussion. These old guys who rant and rave about basketball today will not stop telling you how bad "athletes" are at basketball. Now, mind you, by athlete they mean black people. Their ideal point guard for UMaine is a 5'5" kid named Dustin Cole, who (rightfully) did not get a scholarship offer. But, he's a Mainer, he's white, he can't dunk, he's the platonic ideal of a basketball player.

Which leads me to point four, perhaps the biggest reason I feel ostracized from the UMaine basketball fan community. I WAKE UP EVERY DAY HOPING TO READ BOB CIMBOLLEK'S OBITUARY. This post is already longer than is reasonable to expect anyone to read, so I won't go into the 75 points that lead to my hatred of Maine's most overrated basketball coach, player and official. But his command and control of the UMaine message board to post his official reasons why things would be better if he were in charge is the world's largest exercise in delusion this side of Marco Rubio's presidential campaign. And even worse, he somehow has a blog on the Bangor Daily News website. His ubiquity is matched only by his idiocy.

So, please, reasonable Maine basketball fans, I beg you. Start posting here. Get off that high school board. I need recruiting updates! I need to know if Garret Beal is alive! I need someone to argue about the merits of playing an 85 possession basketball game with! My blood pressure needs to not skyrocket whenever I give in and check MBR, and the only way to avoid that is not to need to check MBR!
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Old 03-15-2016, 10:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi. I'm right there with you. At least there a few that try to keep him in check over there but my god, it seems he creates at least 15 different threads a day and they basically all say the same thing. I do find the not-so-subtle racial undertones to be a little disturbing, not only in their presence but also the fact that it is allowed to continually be posted by him.
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Huge props for your dedication to Maine hoops and that was an interesting and passionate post.
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Re: Maine fans: a plea for sanity

I'm all for using this board as the primary basketball discussion. The one issue is that most threads tend to devolve into UVM discussions.

Please see the UNH CIT threads, posts 33 and 35.
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I'm all for using this board as the primary basketball discussion. The one issue is that most threads tend to devolve into UVM discussions.

Please see the UNH CIT threads, posts 33 and 35.
You sound like an insular Maine board may be best for you.
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Re: Maine fans: a plea for sanity

Can you explain to me how the complaint that certain threads stray off-topic (when there is often no relation to the topic) is akin to wanting insular discussion?

Certainly this board is great in allowing fan bases of all conference teams to share opinions. Still, if posters want to shift primary Maine basketball discussions here they should be prepared to also discuss players on opposing teams and the fact that UVM probably could have recruited said players if it weren't for a better player already committing. In. Every. Thread.

The other issue we would run into when using this board for primary discussion is that there are a few posters here who are even less self aware than Bob Cimbollek. Please refer to post #5 in this topic
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Their ideal point guard for UMaine is a 5'5" kid named Dustin Cole, who (rightfully) did not get a scholarship offer. But, he's a Mainer, he's white, he can't dunk, he's the platonic ideal of a basketball player.
Lol'd hard at this, I looked him up to see if he was real or just a comic creation. He plays at Franklin Pierce and averaged 3 ppg this season.

I'm still pretty high on that Bob fella you got coaching up there. I've seen him at RIC before and plus... well Maine coaches named "Walsh" just seem to be a good bet
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Can you explain to me how the complaint that certain threads stray off-topic (when there is often no relation to the topic) is akin to wanting insular discussion?

Certainly this board is great in allowing fan bases of all conference teams to share opinions. Still, if posters want to shift primary Maine basketball discussions here they should be prepared to also discuss players on opposing teams and the fact that UVM probably could have recruited said players if it weren't for a better player already committing. In. Every. Thread.

The other issue we would run into when using this board for primary discussion is that there are a few posters here who are even less self aware than Bob Cimbollek. Please refer to post #5 in this topic
Unless those opinions aren't what someone wants to read of course- then it's a problem. See: your posts.

It was a discussion on UNH and Fairfield- UNH' opponent in the game, and the comment was on a Fairfield player with a tie to UVM- pretty benign, but again if that upsets your sensibilities then this board really isn't for you.

Every thread on this board eventually veers off-topic the longer it runs, some get re-routed back on course, some don't etc.
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I think that Vermont at full strength would have performed better than Stony Brook did last night.

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I think that Vermont at full strength would have performed better than Stony Brook did last night. - MJ
Not so sure any AE team would have done better considering the intensity that UK brought last night!!!!!
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I think that Vermont at full strength would have performed better than Stony Brook did last night.

I kept thinking to myself that the moment was to big for SBU
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Kentucky was the worst possible match-up for any AE team. No matter who it was would have gotten overwhelmed.
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Kentucky was the worst possible match-up for any AE team. No matter who it was would have gotten overwhelmed.
UA hung with them and lost by 13. I know what folks are going to say...end of season =/= first game of the year. Raw talent was the same and makeup of roster was the same and we hung around a bit.
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Is that what you are referring to Zonid? Lol...
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nm.

Noticed this was the Main thread and didn't want to continue the hijack.
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