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Old 03-11-2017, 05:30 PM   #46 (permalink)
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I agree that I think Lamb is catamount lifer. Everything about him says he stays besides his talent. He's good enough to play at another level but that's the only thing that makes a flight risk. Everything else is a great match.



I find it really funny talking about UVM's lack of proven underclassmen. What schools have a bunch of proven underclassmen talent? Albany can match up with Nichols, Cremo, and Campbell but who else matches up with Duncan and Lamb.

We won't need incoming talent and redshirts to replace those 60 minutes. The talent played this year. Hearlihy, Drew, and Ward ALL SENIORS are going to replace the majority of those 60 minutes.

I think UVM's freshmen Patella and Smith as well as SO Everett would start on the majority of teams in the AE as Juniors. Smith and Patella have good high school resumes and Everett has had some minutes for us already.
Of course they are going to replace the 60 minutes, someone has to play..duh. But there is no reason to think they are going to get better over the summer and equal the guys leaving. The three seniors have unique skills I don't see in any of these guys filing. We are going to be good, but don't see us equaling the best (or second best '05, take your pick) team in UVM history.
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Old 03-11-2017, 06:15 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Albany will be very good. UVM is the clear favorite for next year if everyone comes back. Vermont returns more than Albany.
With 8 seniors, VT will be favored again, but I'm not sure how you can say VT returns more. That doesn't make any sense. Albany only loses one starter (Rowley) who was great defensively, and i love him, but he isn't a huge loss, and a role player in Ennema. Dallas made huge shots for the team and UA fans will miss him, but again not a huge loss from a production perspective.

That's it. The rest of the team returns. Add in Cochran who was supposed to be the most talented on the team.this year as a red shirt sophomore, get Lands back, add in Healey, and 2 Australian bigs.

I won't at all be surprised if next year's championship is a rematch hosted at SEFCU
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With 8 seniors, VT will be favored again, but I'm not sure how you can say VT returns more. That doesn't make any sense. Albany only loses one starter (Rowley) who was great defensively, and i love him, but he isn't a huge loss, and a role player in Ennema. Dallas made huge shots for the team and UA fans will miss him, but again not a huge loss from a production perspective.

That's it. The rest of the team returns. Add in Cochran who was supposed to be the most talented on the team.this year as a red shirt sophomore, get Lands back, add in Healey, and 2 Australian bigs.

I won't at all be surprised if next year's championship is a rematch hosted at SEFCU
Because Cremo and Nichols are the only guys on the level of the 4 guys returning for UVM.
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This whole thread is almost missing the name of D Wills, The main reason UVM won the last 2 matchups with UA. Irreplaceable
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Old 03-11-2017, 06:33 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Because Cremo and Nichols are the only guys on the level of the 4 guys returning for UVM.
Agree to disagree. Campbell on all defensive team and could have made 3rd team had he played all season. You didn't get to see Lands, but before the injury he looked like he was going to be a star. Cochran is the wildcard missing an entire season.

I'm rooting for VT in the tournament, but I'm already excited for next year.
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I'm hoping Shungu can take over the lockdown defender and all around leaper jobs from Wills. Nobody will replace our own Dre Wills as the team MC and most colorful commentator.
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I mean, it's hard to improve on 19-0 in the league, right? But I do think UVM will be really, really good if the guys all come back. Albany will be right there too, as will Stony Brook. UMBC and UNH will also be strong. League has a chance to be the strongest it has been in years. I just hope we don't end up w the bottom four all being 300+ RPI like this year. They all need to be more competitive.


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This whole thread is almost missing the name of D Wills, The main reason UVM won the last 2 matchups with UA. Irreplaceable


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Looking ahead, despite losing Woodhouse, I fully expect us to be in top 4.

This year I thought our ceiling was 3rd and floor was 5th. In fact 8-8 record would have satisfied me. And we exceeded that to reach 2nd seed.

Next year I think our ceiling is 2nd and floor is 4th.
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You can focus on what Vermont loses but they return a POY and I think Lamb is favored for POY. Of course I expect players to get better during the summer. wills and Payen didn't play great as juniors and now they are irreplaceable. It's not crazy to think hearlihy, drew, and ward will have good senior years as well.

Even Steidl had a bad OOC this year. He was missing everything. Payen didn't get off the bench one game this year. Uvm absolutely has the talent to get a 50 RPI again. There is a lot of talent on the team.

Albany is the only school that worries me next year
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It's never about one player; it's about the team. That's how you win. If anyone has learned only one thing about greatness of 2016-17 team- that's it.

Kurt, Dre, Darren will all be missed- but all 3 will be replaced.
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It's never about one player; it's about the team. That's how you win. If anyone has learned only one thing about greatness of 2016-17 team- that's it.

Kurt, Dre, Darren will all be missed- but all 3 will be replaced.
No question someone will take their place on the roster...

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I think Smith and patella have a chance to be better.
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Talent/skill wise they very well may be but experience wise that's a big loss.

This year UVM had to blend in one very good Frosh with a lot of experience. It will be a lot harder blending in 2 Frosh to your regular rotation, it can be done but could be difficult.
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Talent/skill wise they very well may be but experience wise that's a big loss.

This year UVM had to blend in one very good Frosh with a lot of experience. It will be a lot harder blending in 2 Frosh to your regular rotation, it can be done but could be difficult.
I was talking about career wise. They definitely won't be as productive next year. I think Ward plays over smith and Hearlihy over patella.

I see our bench rotation as of now Ward SR, Everett RS SO, Dingba RS JR, and Drew SR. That's a very experienced bench.

Smith and Patella should get 5 minutes a game. Not really a rotation player but they need to be ready should an injury arise.
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