Hotlantadude198

I said I guess Speedy Claxton and a DRAFT PICK.

What are they going to give?Some
lame late first rounder that is worth
less?

"I said I am only suggesting that Parker or Claxton is the trade bait. It could be anyone. I just know from a good source that Atlanta and San Antonio have talked about Terry and the reason is because the Spurs want a scorer at the point that can defend and Atlanta is looking for a starting caliber pass-first point guard. "

Well I know from a better source"The
gm"that the Hawks would trade Terry
for a top PG.That doesn't match what
the Spurs have.

Terry is tradeable,but it would be for
a PG that is on his level of play.

I admit I was alittle harsh on you.But
it isn't a rumor worth much credit.

True Terry would be traded for a good
player that is of close value as a player.That doesn't fit Speedy Claxton.

Besides if we aren't in 6th place that
doesn't mean it is Terry's fault.Must
you forget who the Hawks coach is..
That's right,Lon Kruger.



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My favorite player is Terry, so I automatically overrate him in my mind, but even if I wasn't a huge fan he is still in the top 5 point guards in the east.

Also as Hawks fans we may overrate him. Now Terry for Parker, we would never do it, but Terry for Parker and 1st rounder, we just might e dumb enough t do.

Because though Terry is the heart of our team, and mr. clutch for us, he will be a free agent, and we may not be willing to pay him. So why not trade for Parker a passing point guard who is still young, and a draft pick that can get us a young prospect.

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Hotlantadude198

Or we can trade Big Hog.

Hotlantadude198

Tony Parker
ira newble
Big Dog
Shareef
Theo

That is a more limited team with
no outside shooters.the backcourt
would suck.

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But if the Spurs added a first round pick, the new talent could rise, and if Kruger is counting on Dickau being a presence (which i hope he isn't), then it mgiht be somehting they want to do.

I would hate the trade, but it isn't hugely unrealistic.

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If we were going to trade JT for picks, we could do alot better than the Spurs. They'll be picking in the 25-30 range for the next 5 years.

JohnD.Thompson

I did some more research on this. I originally just posted something I got from someone that I trusted. It was correct. Yes, the two teams have talked several times over the past few months. Atlanta though is talking to other teams more and are looking for a pure point guard. Chances are slim this owuld be a trade, but it has been in the works. For the most part, the entire team was talked about, but Jason Terry and Theo Ratliff were the two talked about the most. San Antonio thinks with Robinson gone next year, the team wants to be more versatile and is looking for as many shooters and defenders as possible. They want to play Duncan at both center and power forward more on an equal basis and they want Duncan to stay as long as possible and think if they can get as much talent around him, he will.

On the Spurs side, they were offering at least a a first round pick, plus one of the other (Tony Parker and Craig Claxton) and either Bruce Bowen or Malik Rose. This was one offering for Jason Terry and a second round pick.

The Hawks have been offering both Dion Glover and DerMarr Johnson, but have been getting offers they just don't like.

Although Parker and Claxton aren't up to Terry's standards, yet; However, both are better passers and team-oriented. Both are young and in only their second seasons as well. So, they will get better. If you don't know Claxton, your missing out on a good talent. He just needs to be in the right offense that allows him to work with his teammates more. Both of those two could start for Atlanta at the point. The problem is will they give up Terry for it? I personally wouldn't, unless they were assured of a top 20 draft pick and a quality defensive-minded forward.

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Hotlantadude198

Well I can tell you this Mr.John
that unless we bring in some
guys with championship experiece
and guys that aren't chokers like
Shareef Abdur Rahim then we
aren't going to win anyway.

Have your scouts tell you about
Shareef Abdur Rahim's choke
job againest the Celtics tonight.

Unless we get rid of those chokers
Parker/Bowen/Speedy whoever
else isn't going to matter because
we don't make the big plays.

"Although Parker and Claxton aren't up to Terry's standards, yet; However, both are better passers and team-oriented."

IF they were better passers they
would be getting more assist.5APG
is not better than 8.1APG.Sorry but
it isn't.

Speedy Claxton is not a PG and he
is limited to some scoring.He is more
along the lines of a Antonio Daniels.

Speedy is a REAL undersized SG.And
he is also a gimp....He has got injuried
in two out of the 3 years.Speedy is a
gimp.

Hotlantadude198

I'll tell you what needs to happen.They need to have a firesale and tank the
season and try and get LaBron James.

We have no players that draw fans
or we have a limited ammount of
clutch players and we are capped
out.

Have a fire sale and find away to
get some stars in here through
the draft.**** pickers like Speedy
Claxton and Tony Parker aren't
going to carry a team.Neither
are fan draws either.We need
better than these two wimps.

Hotlantadude198

btw John...I see Speedy's 2.8APG
career average.Nice passer indeed.
I also see the 40.2%fg nice shooter
aswell.

All this bum is a cheap scorer.2.8APG
PG better than a 8.1APG.lol

Not to mention he 5'10 and 160
pounds.What a joke John.

No to mention how bad Philly was
when Speedy Claxton was playing
PG for them.Didn't they lose like 10
out of their first 11 with Speedy as
the pg or something last year?

Give me a 7PPG 2.8APG PG over
a 19PPG 8.1APG 2SPG PG anyday!lol
(sarcasm)

ACTUALLY,the more I think about
it...Speedy is a poor mans Bobby
Jackson.That is EXACTUALLY what
he is...a poor mans Bobby Jackson
but not as good....he is just a cheap
scorer off the bench.

JohnD.Thompson

hotlanta person. You obviously have me confused if you keep talking about Abdur-Rahim and me. I havne't mentioned him. You keep bringing him up. What's the deal? Are you some kind of anti-social freak?

Also, assists don't always mean anything on point guards. Remember PLAYING TIME AND HOW LONG A PLAYER HAS PLAYED. Craig Claxton is a PURE POINT GUARD. If you think he's a two guard, you really don't know basketball. He is playing second string and is being asked to score more on that bunch, just like he did in Philly. When he

Also, your stats are wrong. Claxton averaged 7.7 points and 3.3 assists in 3 games this year before injury. Last year, he average 7 points and 3 assists behind Iverson and Snow. His average is 3.0, not 2.8. You looked at the playoff stats. Those are good back up stats. Everyone knows that he is one of the quickest players in the game and very fast (thus the name Speedy). Stop pretending to be something your not and that is someone that knows the NBA. Go away for a few years, watch the game closely and then come back to the board with some sense.

Finally, what are you so worried about Claxton? If he was traded for Terry, which isn't likely to begin with, it would include a first round pick and one of the team's rotation forwards. Now, that is a decent deal. Since, your still complaining, I'll let you know something, San Antonio is more interested in Nick Van Exel now anyways. They believe they can get him cheaper.

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Hotlantadude198

Also, assists don't always mean anything on point guards. Remember PLAYING TIME AND HOW LONG A PLAYER HAS PLAYED. Craig Claxton is a PURE POINT GUARD. If you think he's a two guard, you really don't know basketball. He is playing second string and is being asked to score more on that bunch, just like he did in Philly. When he "

Pure PG?That is retarded.What did
Philly do when he was their PG last
year?There record was pretty bad.
He is not a PG.

" Also, your stats are wrong. Claxton averaged 7.7 points and 3.3 assists in 3 games this year before injury. Last year, he average 7 points and 3 assists behind Iverson and Snow. His average is 3.0, not 2.8. You looked at the playoff stats. Those are good back up stats. Everyone knows that he is one of the quickest players in the game and very fast (thus the name Speedy). Stop pretending to be something your not and that is someone that knows the NBA. Go away for a few years, watch the game closely and then come back to the board with some sense."


A whole 3.0??lolAlot of reserve PG's
put up 7PPG 3APG.Big Deal.Speedy
is a backup cheap scorer and nothing
else.

" Finally, what are you so worried about Claxton? If he was traded for Terry, which isn't likely to begin with, it would include a first round pick and one of the team's rotation forwards. Now, that is a decent deal. Since, your still complaining, I'll let you know something, San Antonio is more interested in Nick Van Exel now anyways. They believe they can get him cheaper."

because he is a gimp...he gets injured
all the time and we already have Alan
Henderson/Chris Crawford/Theo Ratliff
and others who are gimps.And he is
not a starting PG on a good team.

Don't want no 160 pound gimp.

The deal doesn't help us win.None
of Speedy and one of their chump
backup forwards are going to step
up and make shots in the clutch.

Again,talk when you have a real
story...You know like us actually
getting a player worth a damn
namely a top 12 player.Other
than.....there isn't much trades
that are going to help Atlanta.

You need to actually watch Terry
like his 12 assist tonight.Watch
the Celtics game tonight.

You talk about your inside info
your"scouts"

1)Your scouts probably blow
and have no real clue.

I emailed the GM about your
Speedy Claxton deal and I thought I'd give you the results



"I would prefer to keep my job a few more weeks....so there is no truth to the rumor.

Pete Babcock

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Hurley [mailto:hawkamanic81@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 6:37 PM
To: askthehawksgm@turner.com
Subject: dear babs

There is a rumor going around that you are going to trade
Jason Terry for Speedy Claxton.Would this rumor have any
truth?"

Take your inside info and stick it
you know where.

Face it,you are a self centered
smug who thinks he knows more
than he does.

JohnD.Thompson

Did you just make any sense?

Also, if you think e-mailing a GM or scouting director is going to get you answers, then your in lala land.

Plus, you keep having wrong answers.

Lastly, you massive moron. When did I or anyone say the trade WAS happening or even close? Huh? Answer that before anything else you low life.

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Hotlantadude198

"Also, if you think e-mailing a GM or scouting director is going to get you answers, then your in lala land. "

So people shouldn't trust their
words but trust yours?lol

That is exactually what a smug
would think.

"Lastly, you massive moron. When did I or anyone say the trade WAS happening or even close? Huh? Answer that before anything else you low life. "

I'm saying your just like the NY
post.Your rumors aren't worth
a damn.

JohnD.Thompson

When have you ever heard a GM give a FAN a all improtant rumor via e-mail? NEVER.

I never said you had to trust my word, but your taking a simple bit of info and your taking it to the bank without ALL OF THE INFO needed. All it had said on my site was that Altanta was looing for a pure pass-first point guard and may use Jason Terry as bait. San Antonio is one team that was interested. That was it. You took it from there and made a bunch of crap. Then, I went and got more info and I was todl strictly from Spurs people that they have indeed had talks about Terry, but woudl have to give up a lot to get him, Parker and/or Claxton, plus a first rounder, plus Bowen or Rose. It didn't mean they were making any deals. I think your reading skills are not up to par or you just don't know how to follow directions.

Also, in your mind you think Claxton sucks, well I bet you go to any GM in the league and say he sucks and they'll slap you quick. He's a good player and in only his second season. Remember the stats of several players in their second seasons and how they played later? Also, look at Eric Snow's stats. He's a quality point guard, but has poor stats. Stats on a lead guard doesn't mean much. I think you just odn't know anythign about the game. If you did, you'd know that a good lead guard just has to run the offense and make he gets the ball to the person that needs the ball. Look at the stats at those that played point for Atlanta last year. Give Claxton starter minutes (35-40) and he'd probably average 12-13 points and 6-7 assists at least. Plus, let the team give him some plays for himself and run more assist-oriented plays just for him, like most teams do for the starting point guards and he'd probably average 7-8 assists a game.

Secondly, my company has been in business for years and we've uncovered many things during it's time. We've announced over 20 underclassmen entering the draft before their time. I knew abotu the JAson Kidd trade well ahead of time and we posted it. We had info on more than 20 trades before they were announced. We've also known about who was getting drafted over know that no one can compete with. So, before you pretend to know your stuff, please do yoru research. How long have you been on the internet or following basketball? I and others from my company have been featured on tons and tons of radio shows all over the country as well.

Finally, do you even have a life? It seems the moment someone else posts, you reply right after them, almost like some kind of strange stalker or something.

I'm done with you, you obvioulsy just don't know when your wrong.

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