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**truebluefan** · 11-16-2002, 12:13 AM

This should open up some debate. Could Atlanta be giving thought to trading Terry? Never! You might say!

Well nbadraftreport is begging to differ!

http://nbadraftreport.com/

Scroll down and you will see where they said a Terry to San Antonio might not be out of the question!

**Petey** · 11-16-2002, 12:17 AM

Interesting, but does that mean they will give up Parker, as it says they are / would be looking for a pass first PG in return, and Parker is more pass then shoot at this point in his career... more so then Terry, that is for sure.

-Petey

**Damian Necronamous** · 11-16-2002, 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by truebluefan!
This should open up some debate. Could Atlanta be giving thought to trading Terry? Never! You might say!

Well nbadraftreport is begging to differ!

http://nbadraftreport.com/

Scroll down and you will see where they said a Terry to San Antonio might not be out of the question!

Dude...I think that you are too condifent with this nbadraft.report.com

I'm sure that they make up most of the stuff...I doubt that have any real insiders.

**truebluefan** · 11-16-2002, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Damian Necronamous!

Dude...I think that you are too condifent with this nbadraft.report.com

I'm sure that they make up most of the stuff...I doubt that have any real insiders.

Your opinion. But you have no proof for our claims. This site has been running since 1996. As long as your sure!

JarvisHayes24 · 11-16-2002, 10:31 AM

What a joke, it would take Parker and their Euro rook SG and a 1st rounder or two. I doubt they would want to give up all that, Jason Terry is the heart and soul for the Atlanta Hawks and is the only one on the team who will make the big play in crunch time.

Hotlantadude198 · 11-18-2002, 02:38 AM

I didn't know the Spurs had a
pass firt PG.There's don't average
more than 4APG(Parker)

Shouldn't a "pass first"pg average
more than a lousy 4APG?Most
PG's get that at halftime.Tony
Parker is overrated anyway
and his talents are limited.

Oh shoot!that's John Thompson.lol

That dude had Alan Henderson
starting over Shareef a while
back.Now I know not to take
it seriousally=)

Hotlantadude198 · 11-18-2002, 02:50 AM

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tony_p....html?nav=page

5.5APG is a pass first PG?Why isn;t
he averaging atleast 8-10APG?Sorry
the dude isn't talented enough.

Trade Terry for a 13PPG 5APG player.lol

Sounds like a trade that would come
from a New Yorker.That would give
it little credit.

If anybody needs to be traded it's
Shareef.20/7 that he is giving is
simply not enough.He should be
producing 26PPG 11RPG 3APG and
actually helping fill the arena and
he doesn't do any of that...yet is
a top paid player in the league.

He can't even draw any fans to
the arena.

JohnD.Thompson · 11-18-2002, 04:46 AM

Hotlantadude198,

Your going man. I never had Alan Henderson starting over Shareef. Where in the heck did you see that? I think you got me confused with the coach from Georgetown. I'm not him. I'm a professional draft scouting director and reporter. The Coach is a good guy and I've met him a few times, but please don't confuse us, I'm John D. Thompson. Like the great reporter out of Pilly, Steven A. Smith. He's not the player, Steve Smith.

To the other person that claims I don't have inside info, man where have you been? I've an actual reporter and scout. I minored in journalism. I've been in the business for years and there isn't one draft site on the net that ACTUALLY goes to all of the draft camps, Juco tournaments, and high school tournaments, besides my company the nbadraftreport and Chris Monter's company, monterdraftnews.com. No other draft site. Not nbadraft.net or anyone else is found at the camps or tournaments. I'm not a high school recruiting guy, so I don't go to that many high school events, but I do go to a lot of junior college stuff and ALL of the draft camps for sure. I get actual media passes like anyone at ESPN or FoxSports does. I am the real deal. I've been around longer than all of these fan draft and fan basketball sites and am still one of the only ones your going to find actually attending events all across the country. My site is a pay premium company with customers from all over the world, the NBA, college, and so on. IF your new to the net, welcome. If your just now hearing about me and my company, well I hope you like it, if not, no biggy, but don't ever confuse me with some fan site or some make up artist. Thanks and no hard feelings. It's only b-ball.

NOW, as to the deal (if you want to call it that), San Antonio is just one team that has called Atlanta about Terry. It's no secret the Hawks are in dire need of a pass-first point guard or at least a point guard willing to run the offense without shooting 10 seconds into the thing. Terry is a good player, but acts too much like a two guard. Many teams have called about him, but the Hawks only want in return a young point guard that can shoot and/or an experienced pass first type of point guard. Tony Parker isn't a super passer, but not a bad one either and I could see that deal happening (with more added to it), but I'm hearing more along the lines of Craig Claxton and a future draft pick for Terry or something closer to that. The Spurs think they can get a shooter in there and run Steve Smith as a point guard at times, too. Not at times, thus they'd have to keep one point guard around for the other minutes. If the Spurs don't get Terry, they have talked to Orlando about Darrell Armstrong before. It was last year, but it seems they are wanting a defensive point guard that can shoot and score. What they can give up for Armstrong, I'm not sure, but watch for them to start talks up in December, January, and Feb and those talks be about a scoring/defensive point guard type like Terry, Armstrong, Cassell, or even Nick Van Exel or someoen else in that type of mindset.

Finally, to those NEWER fans of the NBA, something you must learn. Virtually all players are on the trading blocks, even some superstars. Each day, I can guarentee you that over 10 names of players have been talked about between GM's in terms of trading. In January and February, that number gets in the 50's and more. What is actually reported is generally only 10 percent of what is being talked about. Unless that player is Shaq, McGrady, Carter, Jordan, Duncan, and players like them, your going to see them on the trading blocks one way or the other. Maybe not openly or maybe not to the point where they'll go for anything, but teams are always looking to improve and since talking about trading between teams isn't ACTUALLY trading, teams will talk between each other. Sometimes, we in the media get lucky and come across some of it or dig deep enough. The smae thign goes for the draft, I hear is all of the time, "no way MY TEAM is looking for someone at that position, they have this person." Then, the next day, they trade away the person this fan thought woudl never be traded. No one is totally safe from being traded or drafted over (meaning, someone of the same position and similar or better talent drafted on same team).

What's great is that we all can speculate even more as to what can happen when some real info gets passed along on once in a while

**truebluefan** · 11-18-2002, 07:50 AM

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Originally posted by JohnD.Thompson!
Hotlantadude198,

Your going man. I never had Alan Henderson starting over Shareef. Where in the heck did you see that? I think you got me confused with the coach from Georgetown. I'm not him. I'm a professional draft scouting director and reporter. The Coach is a good guy and I've met him a few times, but please don't confuse us, I'm John D. Thompson. Like the great reporter out of Pilly, Steven A. Smith. He's not the player, Steve Smith.

To the other person that claims I don't have inside info, man where have you been? I've an actual reporter and scout. I minored in journalism. I've been in the business for years and there isn't one draft site on the net that ACTUALLY goes to all of the draft camps, Juco tournaments, and high school tournaments, besides my company the nbadraftreport and Chris Monter's company, monterdraftnews.com. No other draft site. Not nbadraft.net or anyone else is found at the camps or tournaments. I'm not a high school recruiting guy, so I don't go to that many high school events, but I do go to a lot of junior college stuff and ALL of the draft camps for sure. I get actual media passes like anyone at ESPN or FoxSports does. I am the real deal. I've been around longer than all of these fan draft and fan basketball sites and am still one of the only ones your going to find actually attending events all across the country. My site is a pay premium company with customers from all over the world, the NBA, college, and so on. IF your new to the net, welcome. If your just now hearing about me and my company, well I hope you like it, if not, no biggy, but don't ever confuse me with some fan site or some make up artist. Thanks and no hard feelings. It's only b-ball.

NOW, as to the deal (if you want to call it that), San Antonio is just one team that has called Atlanta about Terry. It's no secret the Hawks are in dire need of a pass-first point guard or at least a point guard willing to run the offense without shooting 10 seconds into the thing. Terry is a good player, but acts too much like a two guard. Many teams have called about him, but the Hawks only want in return a young point guard that can shoot and/or an experienced pass first type of point guard. Tony Parker isn't a super passer, but not a bad one either and I could see that deal happening (with more added to it), but I'm hearing more along the lines of Craig Claxton and a future draft pick for Terry or something closer to that. The Spurs think they can get a shooter in there and run Steve Smith as a point guard at times, too. Not at times, thus they'd have to keep one point guard around for the other minutes. If the Spurs don't get Terry, they have talked to Orlando about Darrell Armstrong before. It was last year, but it seems they are wanting a defensive point guard that can shoot and score. What they can give up for Armstrong, I'm not sure, but watch for them to start talks up in December, January, and Feb and those talks be about a scoring/defensive point guard type like Terry, Armstrong, Cassell, or even Nick Van Exel or someoen else in that type of mindset.

Finally, to those NEWER fans of the NBA, something you must learn. Virtually all players are on the trading blocks, even some superstars. Each day, I can guarentee you that over 10 names of players have been talked about between GM's in terms of trading. In January and February, that number gets in the 50's and more. What is actually reported is generally only 10 percent of what is being talked about. Unless that player is Shaq, McGrady, Carter, Jordan, Duncan, and players like them, your going to see them on the trading blocks one way or the other. Maybe not openly or maybe not to the point where they'll go for anything, but teams are always looking to improve and since talking about trading between teams isn't ACTUALLY trading, teams will talk between each other. Sometimes, we in the media get lucky and come across some of it or dig deep enough. The smae thign goes for the draft, I hear is all of the time, "no way MY TEAM is looking for someone at that position, they have this person." Then, the next day, they trade away the person this fan thought woudl never be traded. No one is totally safe from being traded or drafted over (meaning, someone of the same position and similar or better talent drafted on same team).

What's great is that we all can speculate even more as to what can happen when some real info gets passed along on once in a while

Very nice post!

JarvisHayes24 · 11-18-2002, 01:21 PM

Good post? Uh, no. He's saying Atlanta is looking in to trading Jason Terry for Claxton and picks.

1. Claxton couldn't beat out Eric Snow for the starting job
2. The draft picks will be below #25, which is where the scrubs get picked.

Atlanta won't trade JT, unless they get someone of his calibur (all star) back, or unless they get some expiring contracts to get us out of salary cap hell.

Hotlantadude198 · 11-18-2002, 02:32 PM

Nice post my edit .I've heard alot
about this "reporter"

John how much longer do you
think Steve Smith is going to
play?What about Eman Ginobili?
Isn't he their starting SG of the
future?

What happens when Smith retires
in about a year?A Smith /Terry
backcourt would get killed on
defense.Smith is too slow to play
defense and Terry can't defend
SG's...Smith is also likely to play
less later on in the year due to
his bad knees.

Your views are flawed.Or do you
just not factor any of this and
just spew out trades?

" but I'm hearing more along the lines of Craig Claxton and a future draft pick for Terry or something"

Speedy Claxton????lol A pass first
PG?They can ban me or whatever...
but that is the dumbest thing I have
heard in a while....A lotto pick and
20PPG 8APG PG for a bench player
like Claxton?lol you have no damn
clue what you are talking about.

Speedy Claxton is not even a NBA
player to be honest.He's a scrub.

I'd be willing to bet 100 bucks this
doesn't happen.

Edited by Shadows- keep it clean

" Armstrong, Cassell, or even Nick Van Exel or someoen else in that type of mindset. "

LOl I have to question your knowledge of the game of basketball.Cassell?U mean the guy that failed to get the
Bucks to the playoffs?The guy who
saw his scoring average go up to 20PPG and his assist have went down to a mere 6APG from 8APG..That pass first PG?

For such a great reporter your Edit- Critisize his views if you disagree not spelling (ever read mine lol)

I've heard alot about you.There was a time when you had Henderson starting at PF over Shareef and Reef
starting at SF.Your sources were so
sure that was going to happen and
you were wrong.Which u always seem
to be....As far as the Hawks go anyway.

Hotlantadude198 · 11-18-2002, 02:38 PM

Speedy Claxton?lol that shows
your creditbility right there.

You mention ESPN....Oh you mean
the guys that said we would trade
Terry for Spree and it didn't happen?

Wasn't Dickau supposed to be that
pass first PG?Isn't that supposed
to be the reason we drafted him?
(sarcasm)

Edited by Shadows

Media's trades usally don't happen
anyway.

Remember the Mutombo for Glen
Rice/Camby trade a few years
ago?

The trade we did make with Kukoc
and Robinson I'd be willing to bet
no media reporters would have
guessed we would have got Big
Dog for Kukoc.

The media reporters are nothing
but a bunch of yankees that think
they know it all and they are usally
incorrect.

I told everybody Dickau wouldn't
start at PG this year and I'm telling
you we will not trade Terry for a
piece of junk player like Craig"I
got no talent"Claxton.

We could trade Terry,but not for
a piece of junk like the no talented
Claxton.

When you talk about Terry you better
offer back a player with legit talent.

Edited by Shadows

Besides,Eman Ginobili is the Spurs
starting SG.

I laugh at how people consider a
a 19\PPG 7.6APG PG trade fodder
for bench players.Anybody that would
actually believe this is a complete
joke.

Heck Speedy Claxton is a undersized
SG himself if anything.

JohnD.Thompson · 11-18-2002, 04:20 PM

You two so-called fans are really funny. Do you complain about everything? For one, I'm from Iowa, not a yankee. Whatever that is suppose to mean anyays. Secondly, how does my site suck, if you haven't been to it? My site isn't even up fully at this current time. Thirdly, you obviously don't know the inside NBA, otherwise you would stop your 5 year old child complaining. NBA teams talk trade and I report what happens when I get info. If you don't like it, don't read it, but to complain shows your ignorance. Anyone that complains about trade rumors are plain stupid and have too much time on their hands. Anything can happen in the NBA and if you haven't figured that out, you must be new to basketball.

Finally, if your trying to discredit me, have fun. I know I'm the one on press row and in the locker rooms and talking to the players, coaches, and families, while your wanna-be asses are sitting around pulling your porks watching MTV and ESPN. I'm not Andy Katz and ignore morons, I've been known for years to fight back when the clueless decide to get on the net and claim to be more than they are. I HATE PEOPLE THAT THINK BECAUSE THEY HAVE A KEYBOARD AND A MONITOR AND ARE ABLE TO TURN ON THE COMPUTER AND TV, they are experts. Maybe you people should learn to talk and how to discuss something without being negative and then maybe you'll learn to get out of special ed one day. I've been on the net since day one and I'm an actual reporter with scouting skills, if you want to battle on that fact, go for it. I'll still be at the games and talking to the players.

TRADE TALKS ARE JUST THAT, TALK. I haven't said it would happen, nor did I say to who or anything, yet some of you really stupid people can't read or just don't want to, because I never said anything WOULD happen. I just said there are TALKS. Stick your thumbs out of your butts and read that. Thank you.

Hotlantadude198 · 11-18-2002, 04:37 PM

Edited by Shadows

"Anything can happen in the NBA
and if you haven't figured that out,"

Whatever...If I said something like"Brian Skinner is going to
lead the league in scoring"then
I would expect to get laughed at.Saying"Anything can happen
in the NBA just isn't good enough.

You don't have the inside on much.
U just spew out the same stuff that
doesn't happen that people like
ESPN spew out.

"I HATE PEOPLE THAT THINK BECAUSE THEY HAVE A KEYBOARD AND A MONITOR AND ARE ABLE TO TURN
ON THE COMPUTER AND TV, they
are experts. "

Actually the GM has already stated
that Jason Terry would be traded
for the following:Andre Miller,Baron
Davis or somebody of that nature.
No mention of Speedy Claxton.That
is a pure joke and you would be
stupid to actually believe that.

"'ll still be at the games and talking
to the players. "

Or so you say...

Besides,am I supposed to believe
these "talks"just because you said
so?You and your cheap website.

I never said I was a expert..however
I'm not the one saying I am a "great"
reporter and think I know it all.But
i watch this team Every game,we
have our own insider reporter for
the team...I can't bash you for the
other teams because I know nothing
about them.

However,I can promise you that we
aren't using Terry as some trade fodder for a lousy player like Speedy
Claxton.He could be traded,but not
for that.

Edited by Shadows

Thank you very much.

JohnD.Thompson · 11-18-2002, 05:01 PM

I didn't even read all of your babble. However, how is my site cheap? Also, what about spelling? It's called typos. I've been having typos since day one and it's not going to stop. IT's not a big deal.

Lastly, think, please just think.

I said I guess Speedy Claxton and a DRAFT PICK. Are you so stupid you can't see DRAFT PICK? I think that just may be requal to Jason Terry in some eyes. Not mine, but in some. If the team's negotiate, then they do. ALso, please someone can you tell me when I siad the teams WERE going to trade? Come on people, it's only talks. Yes, for a fact, Atlanta is shopping Terry. San Antonio is just one of the teams that are talking. I said I am only suggesting that Parker or Claxton is the trade bait. It could be anyone. I just know from a good source that Atlanta and San Antonio have talked about Terry and the reason is because the Spurs want a scorer at the point that can defend and Atlanta is looking for a starting caliber pass-first point guard. I know other teams are in talks with both teams. You guys can try to dis-credit me all you want, but it's true. Just because YOU don't believe it or don't like it, I could care less. I'm not reporting something to make you like it.

Also, I find it funny that people are making fun of Claxton or Parker. Yeh, they aren't Jason Terry. I think we all agree on that, but come on, they are good passers with good quickness and speed and can run a team, if needed. I think some of you keep forgetting the point that a draft pick or something else would have to added to make the deal go. Not once did I or anyone say it was an equal deal. Some of you just don't read everything or comprehend everything and think I can reply because I know how to type. Please, take in everything before you reply. It's not that hard.

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