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07-12-2006, 08:43 PM
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Which Al S&T would you prefer?
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...arrington.html
• Sign-and-trade Harrington to Indiana for Jeff Foster, Anthony Johnson and a future draft pick. Foster's reasonable salary ($5.2 million and $5.7 million over the next two seasons with a player option for a third) has made him one of the talked-about trade pieces of the summer. His rebounding prowess, 6-foot-11, 250-pound frame and lunch-pail attitude are things that would most benefit the young Hawks. Johnson has two years (at less than $2.9 million per season) left on his contract and would round out a much-improved Hawks backcourt rotation. And draft picks are always a plus.
• Sign-and-trade Harrington to Golden State for Troy Murphy and Mickael Pietrus. Murphy is expensive ($10 million per season over the next five years) but he rebounds (averaging 10.4 the past two seasons) and hits jumpers from 17 feet. Pietrus is the deal sweetener. Much like his friend and French countryman Boris Diaw, the athletic swingman is poised for a breakout season in the right situation and should be eager to prove himself in a contract year.
• A three-team deal that would send Harrington to Golden State, Murphy to Milwaukee and Jamaal Magloire to the Hawks. Magloire's expiring contract ($8.3 million this season) works perfectly for a Hawks team that seeks to maintain its salary-cap flexibility. And he's the veteran bruiser they lacked last season. Magloire has helped anchor the middle for playoff teams in New Orleans and Milwaukee.
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07-12-2006, 11:23 PM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
From the Hawks perspective, I like the three team deal, although I think the Hawks should ask for more, a few 2nd rounders or a first rounder or someone with tons of potential like Ersan Illyasova from the Bucks or Andris Biedrins from Golden State. Either way, doing the deal leaves Atl with a possible starting unit of: Claxton|Childress?|Smith|Pachulia|Magloire and Marvin off the bench for a spark.
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07-12-2006, 11:34 PM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
I find it hard to believe that Indiana would give up so much for Harrington,but if Atlanta could get a AJ and Foster for him that would really improve them a lot.I would guess that both of them might start and you'd suddenly have a team with good depth up and down the lineup.Johnson is a really underrated player who can defend the point as well as anyone in the league.He doesn't give you the ability to run so well as I think the Hawks might like,but he's a good player.The Magloire deal seems a lot more likely to happen IMO.The Bucks are probably looking to open up PT for Bogut,but I'm not sure that Harrington really fits in their plans since they just got Villanueva.
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07-13-2006, 03:00 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
The 3-team deal is the best, you don't get stuck with Murphy's contract, or a slight upgrade over Zaza in Foster. But why would Milwaukee want Murphy? They already have Bogut, CV, and Gadzuric at the frontline.
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07-13-2006, 04:14 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
Devenay made up this one.
Golden State sends Troy Murphy, Mickael Pietrus and Chris Taft to Atlanta for Al Harrington (sign-and-trade) and Tyronn Lue.
Why it helps the Hawks: Atlanta is prepared to lose Harrington. Depth in the frontcourt is needed -- their big men are Zaza Pachulia, Marvin Williams and Shelden Williams -- and Murphy provides rebounding, plus offensive versatility. He needs to cool off on the 3-point tries, but he does have shooting range and room to improve. He could be an All-Star in the East, eventually. Pietrus and Taft are both decent young players who might do well with some playing time. The Hawks would like to deal Josh Smith, and having Pietrus aboard would make him unnecessary.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=108015
The bolded part was intresting and gives a bad impression on Seans knowledge.
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07-13-2006, 06:52 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
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Originally Posted by TheATLien
http://www.ajc.com/sports/content/sp...arrington.html
• Sign-and-trade Harrington to Indiana for Jeff Foster, Anthony Johnson and a future draft pick. Foster's reasonable salary ($5.2 million and $5.7 million over the next two seasons with a player option for a third) has made him one of the talked-about trade pieces of the summer. His rebounding prowess, 6-foot-11, 250-pound frame and lunch-pail attitude are things that would most benefit the young Hawks. Johnson has two years (at less than $2.9 million per season) left on his contract and would round out a much-improved Hawks backcourt rotation. And draft picks are always a plus.
• Sign-and-trade Harrington to Golden State for Troy Murphy and Mickael Pietrus. Murphy is expensive ($10 million per season over the next five years) but he rebounds (averaging 10.4 the past two seasons) and hits jumpers from 17 feet. Pietrus is the deal sweetener. Much like his friend and French countryman Boris Diaw, the athletic swingman is poised for a breakout season in the right situation and should be eager to prove himself in a contract year.
• A three-team deal that would send Harrington to Golden State, Murphy to Milwaukee and Jamaal Magloire to the Hawks. Magloire's expiring contract ($8.3 million this season) works perfectly for a Hawks team that seeks to maintain its salary-cap flexibility. And he's the veteran bruiser they lacked last season. Magloire has helped anchor the middle for playoff teams in New Orleans and Milwaukee.
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Thats a though on I don't like the GS trade, but I like the other 2 Maglore is in his contract year so I know he'll be playing hard, not taking it easy like has the past few seasons, and like you said it gives us some cap flexibilty. I really like the Indiana deal, thats a deal that i think could make us a playoff team. They ae both also in resonable contracts, Foster would bring some interior defense which we really need ( Shelden can't do it by himself), and Anathony Jackson could bring that leadership and be a veteren leader for our young club.
At the end of the day I take the IND deal because they both fill to big needs for us, this is a trade that could put us in that next level. Plus you also get a draft pick.
BTW I dont know if the three way team will happen because, I remeber hearing that Larry harris wanted to trade Magloire so he could get more minutes for Bogut, wouldn't Troy Murphy just be takig away minutes, just like magloire does right now?
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07-13-2006, 07:11 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
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Devenay made up this one.
Golden State sends Troy Murphy, Mickael Pietrus and Chris Taft to Atlanta for Al Harrington (sign-and-trade) and Tyronn Lue.
Why it helps the Hawks: Atlanta is prepared to lose Harrington. Depth in the frontcourt is needed -- their big men are Zaza Pachulia, Marvin Williams and Shelden Williams -- and Murphy provides rebounding, plus offensive versatility. He needs to cool off on the 3-point tries, but he does have shooting range and room to improve. He could be an All-Star in the East, eventually. Pietrus and Taft are both decent young players who might do well with some playing time. The Hawks would like to deal Josh Smith, and having Pietrus aboard would make him unnecessary.
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn...c.php?t=108015
The bolded part was intresting and gives a bad impression on Seans knowledge.
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Maybe he knows some thing we don't, hopefully not but that's the second time I heard about J.Smith being traded the (first time was in that Allen Iverson trade proposal), and it's really starting to get me nervous.
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07-13-2006, 07:15 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
The Indy deal is highway robbery for the Hawks.
Why wouldn't the Bucks want to go Magloire for Al straight up? Also, Magloire would likely be traded at the deadline, thereby allowing the Hawks another benefit.
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07-13-2006, 07:28 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
Anthony Johnson is a Back Up PG and thats it. He had one good series agaist NJ, that they lost. Kidd was letting him score because we didn't want O'Neal to get going. Plus Kidd was saving himself for Miami.
The GS trade is the most talent. Not a bug Pietrus fan, exspecially since the Hawks middle name is Swingman. Murphy would fit in because he can rebound for you and be another shooter. I think Childress and JJ are your only consistent shooters.
Not a big Maglore fan, but he would fit in nice in the post
Maglore
Sheldon
Marvin
JJ
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Childress
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Pachulia
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07-15-2006, 05:46 AM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
Indy has this in the bag now. The trade exception, Foster, and a first rounder gives ATL a pick, a pretty good veteran big man (fantastic team guy) at a reasonable price, and saves cap room. And the exception, or part of it I believe can be re-used. Plus, Al's fav is Indiana. he just won't say it because he's trying to get $. His family and best friend live there, and he is familiar with the city, the team, and the Eastern Conference. This could end up being a three-way with Magloire going to ATL, though.
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07-15-2006, 01:26 PM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
Isn't Al still best friends with Jermaine?
I've been extremely against Al returning to Atlanta, but it has nothing to do with him as a player or person. Only because it is probably in the best interest of Atlanta's younger players. But Al is a great guy, and a good player still. He'll do well back with the Pacers.
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07-16-2006, 01:40 PM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
I think the Pacers fanbase would be far more open to parting with Jamaal Tinsley than Anthony Johnson.AJ was really pretty effective for them and Tinsley was perpetually injured.I think he has a long history of nagging injuries,but he's not a bad player when he's actually on the floor.
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07-16-2006, 02:28 PM
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Re: Which Al S&T would you prefer?
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I think the Pacers fanbase would be far more open to parting with Jamaal Tinsley than Anthony Johnson.AJ was really pretty effective for them and Tinsley was perpetually injured.I think he has a long history of nagging injuries,but he's not a bad player when he's actually on the floor.
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I don't salaries match up but it'd be very ironic if Tinsley comes full circle to Atlanta. The team that originally stole him in the 2nd round, then traded him to Indiana, where Pacers fans once put him on the level of Chauncey Billups thanks to his creative flair. But his original problems (shooting, turnovers, injuries), the ones that caused him to drop to Atlanta would make him wind up with the Hawks, once again.
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07-16-2006, 04:08 PM
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