xu95

I hate to break up all the monotony of the feel good threads, but I don't like this one one bit.

xu95

For some reason I can't get the hyperlink thing to work so here it is: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/10/sp...in&oref=slogin

It is an article about GW looking into the admissions of Rice and Williams.

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WH

GW SHOULD look into the admissions process, but if the two players are NOW in good academic standing, there's nothing to be done except in regard to future admissions. Like with a statute of limitations, what's done is done. So long as Rice and Williams do well academically -- and GW is by no means a safety school -- this is a nonscandal.

As I have said before, the emergence of prep schools is seedy underside of college basketball and a bigtime crackdown is in order. It should be all about righting wrongs for the future, however, and not indicting athletes who evidently are doing well in school.

clark1

What process? Didn't anybody look at where these 6 yr HS students were coming from? Oh, yea, the Clearinghouse. If it's good enough for the NCAA, it's good enough for us. How many of you had your courses approved by a Clearinghouse for admission?
Where there's smoke, there is usually fire.

WH

Cant quite agree with that, clark1. I've generated plenty of smoke cooking in my kitchen, but rarely have I started a fire.

If I were a school administrator, I would indeed examine my process, but I sure as hell wouldnt issue a press report about it. GW will have to be more careful from now on, as will many other schools all over the country that accepted students with similarly problematic resumes.

I think the simple thing for the NCAA to do is to say that athletes wont be allowed to play Div 1 athletics unless the prep school they attend has been accredited. Limit the acreditations would limit the number of kids going to prep school and it would limit the hanky panky.

rusty X

I think a strong case can be made for the GW administration to tell the ncaa to go sit on it. Minority recruiting is an issue that the school should solve, not Myles Brand (and his $800,000 annual salary) or the 6...SIX, ncaa executive VPs (and their $250,000+ individual annual salary). When they talk about exploitation I have one thing to say to them

"kettle, meet pot"
"pot, meet kettle".

GW and their admission process is none of Myles' @%$# business. The success of these 2 guys shows that they know what they are doing. I think the ncaa is upset because one of the member universities had the nerve to show them, and their stinkin' rules, up.

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jimbo65

I am no fan of the NY Times. They subtley, and sometmes unsubtley, skewer those they feel deserve skewering. While they do not intentionally print lies, they structure the news, and most of their editorial pages, to champion their agenda. The GW admissions process for bball players is now apparently on their agenda. That is a place you do not want to be. While their ultimate target might be the NCAA, they will use GW to get at them. The bball program better have been pure as Ivory soap or trouble is directly around the corner.

That said, IMHO it is highly unlikely that the two in questuion, after a combined 13 years of secondary "education",can actually be on target to graduate. Perhaps it is cynical to say, but remove yourself from being associated with GW and think if you would believe that this educational miracle took place, particularly for the underclassman, who is a short time away from jump shot prep. Either an amazing success story or a fraud. Hope it is a success story, likely we'll be finding out.

Blue Dog

Are you advocating the return of the good old days of basketball and football factories? I'm not with you if you are.

Standards need to be set and enforced, unfortunately, or schools will cheat. It's been shown to be the case over and over. I don't think it's asking too much to expect that kids get a HS diploma to go to a college or university, and that the diploma reflects that they did the same work and passed the same classes expected of everyone else.

This is not a question of minority recruiting an any way that I can see, unless the minority you're talking about is very talented athletes who can't be bothered going to school.

Blue Dog

You're dead on jimbo. Soon we're going to be hearing from every professor or grad student teacher at GW who has a horror story to tell about student athletes getting a break that other students don't, cast in the worst possible light. Most of them probably hated jocks their whole life anyhow, and will be more than happy to pile on.

Billiken Rich

LOL!

clark1

In the immortal words of AI - "it's high school, we're talkin' high school" - diploma ??? Or should I quote Alfred E Newman - "what me worry"?

RF1

There is no way possible that GW comes out looking good in all this. Making matters worse is that it isn't only one player and one of these sham high schools from what I have read. It is 3 players and two different schools. Others in the media are even now picking up on this. There was an unflattering blurb in a column by Jim Donaldson in today's Providence Journal which did not portray GW well.

clark1

It's funny you used the word "resume". We know a lot of people who got in trouble over phony ones. At least somebody checked those out.