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Old 03-15-2006, 09:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

I have been waiting for a good explanation for this and have yet to see it. I thought seeds were based on merit not speculation that a team might not be as good with a key player injured.

The committee used this as a reason to lower GW's seed, yet Pops is not even out for the tournament. He is still playing, correct? Is the seed adjusted for every team that has a key injury?

Does anyone have a rational explanation for this?
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:08 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

There is a rational explanation:

Every time there is a doubt about anything, the selection committee rules say that they must take the negative view when it comes to GW.

Injury to Pops? Ding their seeding.

Injury to Allen Ray? No ding. Injury to Tyrus Thomas? No ding. Suspension of Tony Skinn? No ding.


GW plays a soft OOC? Ding their seeding.

Texas A&M plays a soft OOC? No ding. Air Force plays a soft OOC? No ding.

GW gets beat handily by NC St.? Define them by it. UNC-Wilmington gets beat handily by Colorado (and loses to 300 RPI East Carolina)? Ignore it and give them a virtual home game.

GW beats Maryland when they are playing well and have Chris McRay? Ignore it and judge the win by how Maryland finished. Nevada beats Kansas when they are playing terrible? Pretend the win was over a team playing well and give them a 5 seed.



It's clear that the committee decided the A-10 stinks and GW stinks, thus they viewed every possible variable as a negative, whereas they didn't view those same variables negatively for most every other team. That's really the only explanation.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:54 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

Boy ... what a GW win over Duke would do ... I know I want it less than many of you, but man, I want it bad.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Boy ... what a GW win over Duke would do ... I know I want it less than many of you, but man, I want it bad.
I'm trying not to think about Duke but it's tough. I can't imagine how tough it must be for Hobbs to keep his kids focused on UNCW with Duke waiting.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

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I'm trying not to think about Duke but it's tough. I can't imagine how tough it must be for Hobbs to keep his kids focused on UNCW with Duke waiting.
Hopefully it's tough for Brownell to keep his kids focused on GW with Duke waiting, especially when they know they have home crowd edge and with everyone saying GW is overrated and, basically, stinks.
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:24 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

The best way for GW to prove them wrong is to go out and run UNC-W out of the building just like they have done to most teams this year.

The whole A-10 should be cheering them on, time to get some respect back to the A-10 another run to the elite eight should do that for the A-10 team
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

GW do the A10 proud!!! Whip the caa (A10 wannabwees) and the take down the ACC.

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Old 03-15-2006, 11:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:44 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

It happens. Didn't Cincy get dropped to a 2 seed the year Kenyon Martin broke his leg in the CUSA tournament?
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

I feel your pain, Free Quebec, but am not sure that is the rational explanation I was seeking. I am all for a conspiracy but cannot believe the committee members are out to get GW.

I am not talking about OOC schedule and other factors, just Pop's injury. I thought the committee looks at a team and says over 28+ games this team earned this seed. I am confused by this revision of a seed by them guessing a team will not be as formidable because of an injury. On top of that, the injured player in question is still playing. It may be in vain to ask for anything rational out of this. Despite what they say, the messages sent by the committe are inconsistent at best.
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Old 03-15-2006, 12:10 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

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It happens. Didn't Cincy get dropped to a 2 seed the year Kenyon Martin broke his leg in the CUSA tournament?
That is not as big of a drop as the one GW received or at least we don't think, who knows where the committee would have them with a healthy Pops if they lost in the quarters.

If Martin had not been hurt and Cincy still lost the CUSA tourney would they still have been a #1? I honestly don't know and therefore I ask.
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Re: How Does Pops' Injury Equal Dropping Seed?

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That is not as big of a drop as the one GW received or at least we don't think, who knows where the committee would have them with a healthy Pops if they lost in the quarters.

If Martin had not been hurt and Cincy still lost the CUSA tourney would they still have been a #1? I honestly don't know and therefore I ask.
Well, that Cincy team was a lot better than this years GW team so it's hard to tell. I think Cincy's OOC schedule was also much stronger. There is no doubt that a team losing it's star player, and thus its potential of advancing in the tournament, does have a negative impact on seeding.
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. There is no doubt that a team losing it's star player, and thus its potential of advancing in the tournament, does have a negative impact on seeding.
There is a lot of doubt. It didn't hurt Villanova. It didn't hurt LSU. It didn't hurt George Mason. It didn't hurt Indiana.

There is no doubt about this: a team losing it's star player has a negative impact on seedings, except when it doesn't.
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