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Old 04-29-2009, 12:20 PM   #31 (permalink)
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It's fun to watch the Musketeers get the wind knocked out of them by that Miller sucker-punch. So entertaining to watch him tell the world that he needed to leave to win a championship rather than staying at "Little Ole Xavier". After so many X fans bought into his propaganda, it was a rude awakening for them. PMthor used to echo his quotes about Xavier being "bigtime" like a parrot. Hilarious.
How is your program doing compared to Xavier?
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Old 04-29-2009, 01:06 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: Xavier recruiting

Im not sure which way Brown will go. If it were me, and this is entirely impartial, I would probably declare. I say this because Brown has his degree so there is no academic business left undone that he would be walking out on. He had a good season, probably helped his stock quite a bit, but there are some obvious changes and disturbances in the Xavier current right now to make next season more littered with unnecessary baggage. Brown has already enjoyed an Elite 8 and 30 win season and Sweet 16. I dont think Xavier outdoes that next year so he's hit a high water mark in success. The key factor coming back for me would be, "can i dramatically improve my stock and is it worth injury?" I think Brown is late first/early second rounder. First rounders get guaranteed money. But you are going to make a fat check as an early 2nd rounder too -- and in some ways -- is more flexible because you the contracts are less stringent and lengthy. For me, I would come back if I thought I could legitimately become a lottery pick as a 5th year senior or I did not have my degree yet. I dont think youd come back to improve 4-5 spots in the draft even if it meant the last pick in the first round. You tear a knee and you may never play NBA ball at all. The risk/reward is very suspect. I dont know if Brown can become a lottery pick. My head says probably not just because lottery guys tend to be guys who can strap teams on their back and take over. Thats not really Browns game -- though in fairness he's never been asked to be THE focal point. I like D-Browns game. Hes got all of the tools much like Posey. Unlike Posey though, Brown doesnt always "impose" himself on a game like he probably has the talent to. He's very cerebral and lets the play come to him. Thats a mark of a well coached player. But I think teams holding lottery picks want a little more?

Ive always been of the opinion that Brown needed to be more selfish on the court and take more shots, especially some of the grenades CJ Anderson and McLean ultimately took when XU "needed a bucket like now".
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Old 04-29-2009, 02:10 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Xavier recruiting

Chet, There is a great chasm between being a 1st rounder and a second. Guaranteed contracts is the biggest. I agree that Brown doesn't need to go back for school but if he has a better chance of being a 1st rounder then I think he needs to come back. I'm sure he has an insurance policy that will cover any career ending injuries. I wouldn't be so sure that next years version of X will have enough baggage to keep X from making another deep run. If you look at what was lost ie BJ and CJ and compare what's coming ie Crawford,Lyons,a more mature Frease and the rest of the sophs I think this team can absolutely achieve at least last years results and depending on the matchups go even further.

He definitely has a tough choice. But if he doesn't get some assurances of being a likely 1st rounder, I think he comes back to improve his stock.
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I'm sure he has an insurance policy that will cover any career ending injuries.

Wouldn't be too sure of that. Not all NBA prospects get those, usually only those who are pretty assured of getting guaranteed millions. Brown is not in that category.

I hope he's back...but I don't think he will be. Whatever gains he makes in his game could easily offset by the much deeper draft class next year.

Another reason to think he's gone is that all you Xavier guys who were so sure Miller wasn't going anywhere for awhile seem pretty optimistic that he'll be back.
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Wouldn't be too sure of that. Not all NBA prospects get those, usually only those who are pretty assured of getting guaranteed millions. Brown is not in that category.

I hope he's back...but I don't think he will be. Whatever gains he makes in his game could easily offset by the much deeper draft class next year.

Another reason to think he's gone is that all you Xavier guys who were so sure Miller wasn't going anywhere for awhile seem pretty optimistic that he'll be back.
He may not have one given to him but he sure as h@ll can buy one.
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Re: Xavier recruiting

re:Brown...the hotlink is a great article about the history of the second round...not entirely up to date but still great food for thought. I don't agree very often with Chet but re: DB...his stock probably never will be higher than right now and he has his degree. He's not a lottery type of guy and his position won't change if any because this years draft is projected to be much weaker than next years draft...so now is the time. I'm on the record...I think DB hooks on and makes a team bucking the odds and the reason is because he can shoot the ball...I see a lot of NBA teams that could benefit from his catch and shoot prowess...

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Re: Xavier recruiting

I'm going on record saying that Derrick Brown goes into the draft, and later next year, Chris Wright dunks so hard on Adam Taylor that Taylor recinds his own scholarship the next day.
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I'm going on record saying that Derrick Brown goes into the draft, and later next year, Chris Wright dunks so hard on Adam Taylor that Taylor recinds his own scholarship the next day.
I will go ahead and guarantee Adam Taylor will dunk on Chris Wright just as much as Chris Wright dunks on him. Most likely because Stealth doesn't have the facts correct unless he switched topics off of Xavier and knows of an Adam Taylor at another school Dayton will play. Andrew Taylor is the walk on with a scholarship.
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Andrew Taylor is the scholarship player with walk-on skills.
Corrected your statement.
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He may not have one given to him but he sure as h@ll can buy one.
Maybe, maybe not. Not easy to get insurance on a possibility of a non-guaranteed contract. These policies are not very common these days. It's not like he's at a level with very predictable draft position/contract. He's one of about 60 guys that some project as very late 1st or 2nd round picks.
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Re: Xavier recruiting

Chrs Wright may certainly dunk on Andrew Taylor next season. Of course that means that XU is up by more than 10 with under a minute to go...which is entirely possible. Of couse that also infers that Chris Wright is actually in at the end of the game and hasn't been called for his fifth charge.
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There could be a potential disaster brewing for Xavier if Brown does go to the NBA. How do they cover the forward position with so few options?

With "Coachpuncher" running for the hills when Miller decided that Xavier was too small-time for him, and the departure of CJ Anderson and BJ Raymond, Mack only has Jamel McBrick and Abraham Taylor as options. Add Terrell Tossitaway and Dante Jackson to that line-up and I really like how things are shaping up.
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There could be a potential disaster brewing for Xavier if Brown does go to the NBA. How do they cover the forward position with so few options?

With "Coachpuncher" running for the hills when Miller decided that Xavier was too small-time for him, and the departure of CJ Anderson and BJ Raymond, Mack only has Jamel McBrick and Abraham Taylor as options. Add Terrell Tossitaway and Dante Jackson to that line-up and I really like how things are shaping up.

We heard this same psycho babble from you fools last year. OH my, no way can X replace Lavender,Burrell, and Duncan. How did that work out for you? Mack has plenty of options and athletes. McLean's FG% was better than EVERYONE on the cryers! His PPS was higher too. It must s@ck to have a team full of bricklayers. I'm happy you're not concerned though. Good teams find ways and X has replaced good players every year. Kinda s@cks to be a cryer fan and have to worry about what X is doing. The 4th in a row is coming this year and there isn't much oompa loompa can do about it.
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McLean's FG% was better than EVERYONE on the cryers!
McBrick can also swish the freethrows. There is a reason he is forbidden to shoot past 2 feet.
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McBrick can also swish the freethrows. There is a reason he is forbidden to shoot past 2 feet.
"McBrick". Is that your nickname for Chris Wright? Man he was fantastic outside of about three feet from the basket.

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