Wow...look what popped up on Dayton rivals today. An article about Jesse Berry...a zero star player that has offers from UD, Butler, Ball State and Cincinnati...but is now being recruited by Xavier, Kentucky, Minnesota, and Indiana. Geez...has calipari lost his mind recruiting a zero star player????
So you are inferring that Hill was being recruited by all the aforementioned teams and that he is every bit as good as Berry? You really don't have to answer because it doesn't matter. Win on the court and everything else is secondary. I know you don't have much experience with that lately but it may come if X somehow manages to find a way out of this league.
BTW, I don't see X on any list of teams recruiting him but if he can help I'm all for it.
__________________ "I hope that someday our program can approach the levels that Xavier has already achieved. It probably won't happen during my tenure but I'll try my best to at least win a game at Xavier." Brian Gregory on April 4th, 2009
"Muddy, stop being annoying. Everyone else, stop calling him names when he's being annoying." TM - Administrator on Aug. 8th, 2009
So you are inferring that Hill was being recruited by all the aforementioned teams and that he is every bit as good as Berry? You really don't have to answer because it doesn't matter. Win on the court and everything else is secondary. I know you don't have much experience with that lately but it may come if X somehow manages to find a way out of this league.
BTW, I don't see X on any list of teams recruiting him but if he can help I'm all for it.
No, I'm not saying that Hill is as good as Berry, we have no clue how good Berry or Hill are going to be in college. I'd bet you'd argue the reverse though since Berry is being courted by Xavier. My point really is that don't discount Ralph Hill...tons of people discounted Chris Johnson and didn't want any part of him because he didn't start until his junior year of high school.
Not sure if you can read the article or not (have to pay for it) but here is the part about Xavier:
"The guard also mentioned Indiana, Xavier, Minnesota, and Iowa this week as schools that have been tracking him closely."
No where have I said that X offered him but only that you are interested in a zero star 2010 prospect...I guess you are on that slippery slop to stooping to our level in recruting.
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Going from Xavier to Arizona is like going from a Buick to a Lexus. ---Sean Miller
The Musketeers already had plenty of experience with heartbreaking coaching changes. Five years ago, Thad Matta left Xavier for Ohio State just a week after declaring he had no interest in the position. Xavier was jilted again this March when Sean Miller left for Arizona only a day after he reportedly turned down a Wildcats offer. The Musketeers replaced Miller by promoting former assistant Chris Mack, a Xavier alum who seems more likely to remain at the school for an extended period. Xavier also might lose one of its top players. Although junior forward Derrick Brown hasn’t hired an agent and still could return to school, some mock drafts have him getting taken in the first round.
try to stay on topic 2link. This doesn't have anything to do with recruiting.
__________________ "I hope that someday our program can approach the levels that Xavier has already achieved. It probably won't happen during my tenure but I'll try my best to at least win a game at Xavier." Brian Gregory on April 4th, 2009
"Muddy, stop being annoying. Everyone else, stop calling him names when he's being annoying." TM - Administrator on Aug. 8th, 2009
Why in the world would you post links to articles that you have to subscribe to read?
__________________ "I hope that someday our program can approach the levels that Xavier has already achieved. It probably won't happen during my tenure but I'll try my best to at least win a game at Xavier." Brian Gregory on April 4th, 2009
"Muddy, stop being annoying. Everyone else, stop calling him names when he's being annoying." TM - Administrator on Aug. 8th, 2009
Tracking him and offering him are two different completely things. Schools probably track 50 to 100 players to offer 5 to 10.
According to Brian Snow, Xavier has now offered basketball scholarships to 27 prospects in the HS Class of 2009 (including 14 offers to forwards) but so far, still no takers.
It must really hurt to need front-court players as badly as Xavier does and lose recruiting battles to Charlotte (Chris Brasswell), Niagara (Andre Gillette), Bradley (Jordan Prosser), Akron (Zeke Marshall), and Marshall (Hassan Whiteside).
'Buick' Mack is still the only Atlantic 10 coach who hasn't landed a single player from the HS Class of 2009, despite having 3 unused basketball scholarships available for Class of 2009 players. Here are the recruits that the other 13 Atlantic 10 coaches have added to their rosters:
It's hard to believe that Fordham's Dereck Whittenburg has out-recruited Mack, but the listing above speaks for itself.
The big danger for Mack (and Xavier) is that he will spend too much of his time trying to land 4-Star prospects that are out of his reach while neglecting 3-Star prospects that are within his reach.
For example, Mack could have had Middletown's SF Bill Edwards (6-6, 230 lbs.) for the asking, but Mack never offered him, and so Edwards signed with Penn State on May 6, 2009. Xavier really needs a SF for the 2009-10 Season:
PG: Terrell Holloway (6-0 Soph.), Mark Lyons (6-1 Fr.)
SG: Dante Jackson (6-5 Jr.), Jordan Crawford (6-4 Soph.), Brad Redford (6-0 Soph.), Brian Walsh (6-4 Soph.) SF: None
PF: Jamel McLean (6-8 Jr.), Andrew Taylor (6-8 Jr., a Division II transfer)
C: Jason Love (6-9 Sr.), Kenny Frease (7-0 Soph.)
“At least for this year, gone are the days when you have a 6-6 wing that plays the three" according to Mack.
Mack would have three scholarships to give if Brown does not return, but he doesn’t plan to extend offers unless he finds the right players for the program. Although XU could welcome “a transfer or two,” it’s possible the scholarships may go unused.
Presumably, 'Buick' Mack didn't offer Bill Edwards a scholarship because he was not rated as highly as Matt Kavanaugh (Dayton), Jon Smith (St. Louis), or Carl Jones (St. Joseph's), and Mack did not want to give Xavier fans the appearance that he was being out-recruited by the other Atlantic 10 coaches.
But he clearly is. Perhaps Mack should bear in mind that 4-Star prospects get a lot of offers from BCS-conference schools coached by head coaches with proven track records, while Mack has not yet coached his first college basketball game. That can make a lot of difference to 4-Star recruits who have aspirations of playing at the next level.
6 link strikes again with his incessant delusion. Mack was named HC in April. Long after the 2009 recruiting class was virtually done. Let's wait for the 2010 class to get near signing day before judging his abilities to recruit.
I can't imagine the angst Muddy/Prop/2link must feel going into this season! What if X somehow wins another A10 championship? Every post he/she/its made this off season will be tossed right back in his face like the posts he has made for the last 3 years. I can't wait.
__________________ "I hope that someday our program can approach the levels that Xavier has already achieved. It probably won't happen during my tenure but I'll try my best to at least win a game at Xavier." Brian Gregory on April 4th, 2009
"Muddy, stop being annoying. Everyone else, stop calling him names when he's being annoying." TM - Administrator on Aug. 8th, 2009
I will go out on a limb here, and I have no links to provide so some may not find this credible, but I am willing to bet Chris Mack and the new staff have not offered 27 basketball scholarships in the past 2 months.
I wouldn't say it's outside the realm of possibility. An offer is even less binding than a player's verbal, if that's possible. Every year a coach "offers" 3-5 times more players than open scholarships. It's simply a way to remain relevant in a kid's mind.
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Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.
One back in the fold and everything points to JD coming back soon.
__________________ "I hope that someday our program can approach the levels that Xavier has already achieved. It probably won't happen during my tenure but I'll try my best to at least win a game at Xavier." Brian Gregory on April 4th, 2009
"Muddy, stop being annoying. Everyone else, stop calling him names when he's being annoying." TM - Administrator on Aug. 8th, 2009
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