Flyer75

In one of the Kyle Davis articles from up in Chicago on his verbal to UD, the name Kendall Pollard is mentioned about how UD remains right in the thick of his recruitment and how the staff is really hitting Chicago hard.

"Dayton has made the Chicago area a recruiting priority and remain in the thick of things for Simeon's Kendall Pollard. Now Davis will join Dillard as a connection to the city and suburbs."

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketb...qPr_MEWYrXO5B4

http://blogs.suntimes.com/hoopsrepor...is_commit.html

AdamtheFlyer

I don't think Archie is necessarily looking for a center in 2013. He has Scott and Robinson, both 6'8" and athletic, and Gavrilovic at 6'9". Oliver and Derenbecker are around 6'7". Size isn't the issue. I think he's looking for the best possible player that can play in the front court.

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butlerway

I really like the Davis pickup for Dayton. He is going to be really good for you guys.

xavierhoops

Were you posting or reading here early this summer when Muddy was banned for a couple months? It's like 2 totally different boards just with one poster being banned. It was nice there for a while.

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bprichard

According to one poster on UD Pride, Ridenour didn't qualify. I've seen no confirmation on that, so take it with a grain of salt. But my guess is this pickup removes Ridenour as a target. I would still like to see UD pick him up because I don't think Price is going to do too much as a freshman, and I suspect Davis can move over to SG at will despite his small stature.

Medford

Yes, yes I was.

I don't venture into the X threads, mostly b/c I don't care, but also b/c I know how bad the UD threads get derailed by X posters, and I know a large chunk of that is based upon the claim that Muddy derails the X threads (I have no reason to not believe that, but like I said I don't venture there much, if at all) Personally, both sides need a hard smack, ie removing posts from threads that are off topic, and only meant to flame. Momma always told me 2 wrongs don't make a right (though 3 lefts do ) so I don't really care if its UD fans flaming b/c X fans flamed once upon a time, or X fans flamming b/c UD fans flame on their thread, its a stupid cycle that takes down the quality of the discussion.

ace93

I agree and disagree. The board was better then and Muddy is over the top, but I feel that if some other poster contested things about X that it would be nearly as bad. I use the reaction that SpiderDave and some Dayton poster not named Muddy got when they brought up the idea of Mack possibly being on the hot seat or being put on the hot seat if X had another issue.

paulxu

Probably most fans are going to defend their school (when it makes sense) if someone else posts something they view as an attack, no matter who posts it. That's part of being a fan. I enjoy the back and forth, and often it is amusing (although people can get way too serious on a message board).

But it is curious that the majority of the posts of some fans, are attacks on other schools, rather than comments about their school, basketball, the conference, etc.

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Medford

I agree to a point PaulXU. If somebody attacks "my" school, I'll defend it, assuming its defensable. If someone continually attacks my school where its obvious that they're just flaming away, I put them on ignore. They're obviously not interested in anything but raising the BS meter, why waste my time defending an attack on my school that is going to fall on def ears? Unfortunetly, its the only solution I have since the Mods fail (and sometimes participate) to quelsh the flame wars that plague this site.

ace93

Agreed, but it appears to me that some X fans (not all of course) take comments and/or questions about their team as an attack. The example I brought up appeared fairly innocent to me, but it was turned into a huge deal.

As for commenting on your own team, I suspect most fans do that plenty on their own boards, so when they are here they are likely here to read more about other teams and therefore end up replying about them too. There are some definite trolls though, I recognize that.

College Hoops

I've heard the Pollard name with UD before, but know little about him other then the fact he plays for what has traditionally been a very good public hs team in Illinois. With Benson & Kavs leaving I would think he would want at least one big. A little surprised that AM is looking for a SF given Derenbecker & Pierre's eligibility vs SG where Sanford graduates after next season. Assuming he still has four ships available next year I wouldn't be surprised to see him hold one for a transfer or someone who decommits from another program.

Muddy Waters

Chicago Metro Area Top 25 Players - HS Class of 2013 (Chicago Sun-Times - August 17, 2012)


7. Kendall Pollard, 6-5, WF, Chicago (Simeon)

He's now more than just a tough, physical lockdown defender. He's expanded his offensive game and is more athletic. Pollard jumped into the top 10 after a sterling month of June while playing with his high school team, which college coaches didn't get to see. Now he has a surplus of schools courting him.


8. Kyle Davis, 6-0, PG/2G, Chicago (Morgan Park)

The high-scoring guard put up some impressive performances over the course of the summer. With his lightning quickness and explosiveness, he will grab your attention and turn your head in a gym. In the open court and in transition, he's a fabulous get-to-the-rim finisher. The playmaking ability and decision-making is still a work in progress. Davis could excel in the right type of system and style in college. An official visit to Dayton is on tap this weekend.

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Flyers’ Newest Do-It-All Recruit Drawing Raves (Doug Harris, DDN - August 27, 2012)

Kyle Davis’ coach on the AAU circuit didn’t bother to draw up any elaborate schemes when his team really needed a game-changing play.

The University of Dayton’s newest recruit knew what to do in crucial situations without having to be told.

“It’s a joy watching him play,” said Nick Irvin, coach of the Chicago-based Mac Irvin Fire. “He’s a one-man press. He’s all over the floor. He’s going to get you the big steal or big rebound or you can tell him, ‘Look, man, I need a basket. Can you get it? I don’t care how you get it – you’ve just got to get it.’ And he’s going to get it, even if it’s the hard way. That’s the type of player he is.”

Davis, who became the Flyers’ first recruit in the 2013 class Sunday night, averaged 25 points and seven assists for Hyde Park Academy as a junior last season before transferring to Morgan Park High School this year. The 6-foot lefty had scholarship offers from Marquette, Northwestern, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Xavier and Nebraska, according to Rivals.com.

He turned down a request from Butler to visit this week before committing to the Flyers.

Labeling him “a one-man press” is reminiscent of the tag given to another Chicago-area guard from several years ago, Dee Brown, who was nicknamed “the one-man fastbreak” when he played at Illinois.

“One-man press. One-man fastbreak. He’s going to be the fastest man on the court,” Irvin said. “He’s so fast and athletic, I’ve seen him dunk on a 6-foot-10 kid this summer. He dunked on a few 6-10 guys. He’s just that kind of player. You can throw ally-oops to him.”

Davis said he picked Dayton because of how hard he was recruited by coach Archie Miller and assistants Tom Ostrom and Allen Griffin. He visited UD on Aug 17-19 and wants to come back during the season.

“I’m going to definitely come down there to see a game,” he said. “I want to see how the fan base is. Everybody keeps telling me, but I have to see it for myself.”

Irvin, also the coach at Morgan Park, said Davis is comfortable at either guard spot.

“He’s a player where you just say, ‘Kyle, go out there and play,’ and he’s going to play the game — whether it’s the 2 guard, the point guard, whatever. He’s just got a will to win,” Irvin said. “He just rules everything out there.

“Plus, not only is he a basketball player, he’s a great kid. He smiles all the time on and off the court.”

Eric Bossi, a recruiting analyst for Rivals.com, has seen Davis play 15 or 20 times. And while he noted it’s hard to know how many of those offers from power-conference schools were still on the table, Bossi said: “As far as I’m concerned, he’s a high-major-level guard. The teams that are winning in the Atlantic 10 right now are high-major-level teams, so in order to compete with those guys, you have to get that type of player, and I think Dayton is doing that with him. A lot of teams in the Big Ten would do well to have gotten him.

“What I like about Kyle is he’s a competitor. He plays with a big chip on his shoulder. He’s not scared of anybody. … He’s just in your face, comes after you. He’s just a tough city kid that plays hard.”

Brian Snow of Scout.com also called Davis a great “get” for the Flyers.

“Kyle is a kid that’s really, really tough — one of the toughest kids you’ll ever see,” he said. “He’s athletic. He can play multiple positions, point guard or shooting guard. He’s right on the edge of our top-100 (nationally), someone I think who could be a big-time player and potentially an all-league player for the Flyers.

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paulxu

This sounds a lot like Tu Holloway or Mark Lyons. Dayton may have a good one.

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nwflyer

http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/...g-raves/nRLYS/


Brian Snow agrees with you:

“Honestly — and Dayton fans will lose their minds when they hear this because of the politics of it — but he can be like (ex-Xavier star) Mark Lyons. He’s not quite the scorer Mark Lyons is, but in terms of toughness and what they bring with their size and ability to play two positions, I really think he can be the Flyers’ version of Mark Lyons.”