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Flyer75 · 09-22-2012, 02:07 PM

E.C. Matthews to URI. Congrats to the Rams. UD had offered him also and I'm pretty sure X had too but not positive on that.

paulxu · 09-22-2012, 02:33 PM

That does look like a nice pick up by URI. On Scout, only Dayton, Arizona and USC are showing offering him. URI not listed.

Flyer75 · 09-22-2012, 02:41 PM

He had an odd recruitment. About a month or so ago, he came out with a final four list that included some bizarre teams and then he came out and said UD was still in the running and that we were one of 2-3 teams that were recruiting them the hardest. Then we land Davis and that probably ended that as he wanted to play PG according to everything being printed today on his commitment to URI. Who knows really...anyway, good pickup for them.

I don't always trust these pay sites, even thought I pay for them, but Rivals had offers from both UD and X. Also from UMass out of the A10.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/dayton/baske...Oot9Mrb81OrpB4

Muddy Waters · 09-23-2012, 02:32 PM

College Hoops Recruiting Notebook (New York Post - September 22, 2012)

Curtis forward Hassan Martin and Christ the King guard Jon Severe are at Rhode Island for official visits.

Martin, a 6-foot-7 forward, is down to URI, St. Joseph's and Providence, his AAU coach Chris Alesi said. The 6-foot-2 Severe recently visited UMass and plans to take an official visit to Rutgers in the near future, possibly for the Big East school's Midnight Madness.

Bronx native Dayshon Smith of Putnam Science Academy (Conn.) is taking an official visit to Dayton this weekend he said, and recently added high-major scholarship offers from Illinois, Providence, and Penn State.

Team SCAN AAU coach, Terrence (Munch) Williams said Drexel, St. Joseph's and Temple went to see forward Terry Larrier of The Phelps School (Pa.).

Hofstra hosted guard Jaaron Simmons, a top guard from Bishop Alter, on Thursday and Friday, according to a source.

Dayshon Smith Talks About His Visit (Matt Schwade, FlyerHoops.net - September 24, 2012)

The Dayton Flyers hosted one of, if not the top target on their recruiting board this past weekend for an official visit. The Flyers have a commitment from one Rivals150 prospect already and are trying to add another.

A10fan2 · 09-24-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters

Bronx native Dayshon Smith of Putnam Science Academy (Conn.) is taking an official visit to Dayton this weekend he said, and recently added high-major scholarship offers from Illinois, Providence, and Penn State.

Dayshon Smith Talks About His Visit (Matt Schwade, FlyerHoops.net - September 24, 2012)

The Dayton Flyers hosted one of, if not the top target on their recruiting board this past weekend for an official visit. The Flyers have a commitment from one Rivals150 prospect already and are trying to add another.

WHAT? Yuma trying to recruit ANOTHER PG? With Davis' committment, why in the world would another PG want to go their?

In other words, how successful Miller might be in deceiving a HS Class of 2013 PG prospect into believing that PG # 1 6' Kyle Davis (who aspires to playing PG in the NBA sooner rather than later) would be happy to step aside and play SG at Dayton so that Dayshon Smith can accomodate PG # 28 as Dayton's Poing Guard.

Right. That's gonna happen.

I'd post 7-8 links about these kids but you get the point.

A10Fans Observations:

(1) If Dayshon Smith does commit to Dayton, he will be the third point guard on Dayton's Roster next season. Next year, none of Dayton's point guards will have the opportunity to learn from, or practice against, an upperclassman PG, which is very important to a freshman's development as an NCAA Division I player.

2)Dayshon Smith may not decide his college choice until spring 2013, which would give BCS-conference coaches another season to evaluate and offer Smith

3)Word was that Smith was a head case, so perhaps we shouldn't be surprised.

Let him go screw up at Dayton.

Flyer75 · 09-27-2012, 04:19 AM

http://m.daytondailynews.com/dayton/...tguid=3OQBD5W5

Pollard visiting UD this weekend.

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Muddy Waters · 09-27-2012, 04:37 AM

Dayton in Pollard's Final Four (Doug Harris, DDN - September 26, 2012)

Kevin Pollard, an athletic wing for powerhouse Chicago Simeon Career Academy, will be visiting Dayton this weekend and has the Flyers in his final four choices.

The 6-foot-5 senior said he’s also considering Virginia Tech, Rhode Island, and Colorado State.

Pollard will be at UD from Friday morning to Sunday evening and has been recruited hard by Flyer coach Archie Miller.

Muddy's Observations:

(1) Doug Harris lifted his article straight from FlyerHoops.net (except for Kendall Pollard's first name).

(2) Kendall Pollard's first name isn't 'Kevin', and never has been.

(3) Douggie's grade for this article: F.

(4) If Kendall Pollard doesn't become a Flyer, it will likely be because Dayton's 2013-14 Roster is loaded with players who can play the wing forward position.

Possible 2012-13 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.)

C: Matt Kavanaugh, Alex Gavrilovic, Josh Benson, and Devon Scott.

PF: Josh Benson, Devin Oliver, Devon Scott, Jalen Robinson, and Alex Gavrilovic.

SF: Matt Derenbecker, Jalen Robinson, Devin Oliver, and Dyshawn Pierre.

SG: Vee Sanford, Dyshawn Pierre, and Matt Derenbecker.

PG: Kevin Dillard, Khari Price, and Vee Sanford.

* Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position.

Dayton Flyers 5-Year Roster Sorted By Graduating Class

Code:

Seniors - UD Class of 2013

1. Josh Benson       PF    6'-9"   228 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 rebounds)*
2. Matt Kavanaugh     C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds)
3. Kevin Dillard     PG    6'-0"   182 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists)
 * Josh Benson missed all 16 A10 games, the A10 Tournament, and the NIT due to a knee injury.    

Juniors - UD Class of 2014

1. Devin Oliver      CF    6'-7"   225 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.9 points and 5.0 rebounds)
2. Vee Sanford       CG    6'-3"   196 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)

Sophomores - UD Class of 2015

1. Alex Gavrilovic    C    6'-9"   246 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.0 points and 2.8 rebounds)
2. Matt Derenbecker SF/SG  6'-7"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)
3. Jordan Sibert     SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  3.0 points and 1.4 rebounds) 
 
Freshmen - UD Class of 2016

1. Devon Scott       PF    6'-9"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds)   
2. Jalen Robinson    CF    6'-9"   243 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds)
3. Dyshawn Pierre  SF/SG   6'-6"   210 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 20+ points and 10+ rebounds)
4. Khari Price       PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 5.6 assists)

High School Seniors - UD Class of 2017

1. Kyle Davis        CG    6'-0"   165 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 25 points and 7 assists)

AdamtheFlyer · 09-27-2012, 12:21 PM

If Archie can land Scoochie and Pollard, this would be a heck of a recruiting class.

College Hoops · 09-28-2012, 06:12 AM

From what I've read,Scoochie and Pollard were and are primary recruiting targets along with Davis for coach Miller. I'm just having a hard time with the need given the positions they play. Admittedly the conference is guard oriented. Next season UD will have Price, Davis Sibert and Sanford for guards. At least at guard I can understand playing three at a time, the ability to deploy the press or have ballhandlers on the court late in the game, anf Davis/Scoochie may be able to play both guard spots. With Derenbecker and Pierre the SF appears set. I would've thought the need for a SF would be for the 2014 recruiting class. Maybe the plan is to re shirt Pollard and let him morph into a Chris Johnson type player or they feel he can challenge for time right away. In any event, other then the PG position, I would've thought the priority would be to bring in at least one big guy to replace Benson & Kavs. Perhaps that search is a little more under the radar.

Flyer75 · 09-28-2012, 06:20 AM

We will still have 3 guys next at 6-9. Alex, Scott, and Robinson. Even if we land Pollard and Smith we still have one ship left. Not to mention, 2013 is just a terrible year for big men. Just awful.

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College Hoops · 09-28-2012, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyer75

We will still have 3 guys next at 6-9. Alex, Scott, and Robinson. Even if we land Pollard and Smith we still have one ship left. Not to mention, 2013 is just a terrible year for big men. Just awful.

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Flyer 75 thats 3 guys for two spots. At guard you've got Price, Davis, Scoochie,Sibert Sanford or five for two spots. Foul trouble or worse, an injury to any of the bigs would be a major problem. 2013 may not be the year of the big man, but I have to believe that between the high schools, prep schools, jucos and overseas there are 6' 8" and above guys that can contribute at the A-10 level. I'm not saying Scoochie and Pollard can't be impact players,, but I would've thought securing a big would be a major priority for the staff, and that could still be the case, the targets are just not out there publically.

Muddy Waters · 09-29-2012, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by College Hoops

Flyer 75 thats 3 guys for two spots.

He’s only 6'-7", but Devin Oliver could be among the Atlantic 10’s best PFs by the end of his senior year in 2014.

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters on September 5, 2012

Devin Oliver is a junior combo-forward who improved very significantly during his sophomore year at UD.

Archie Miller inserted Oliver as the starting PF in the Flyers' last seven games of the 2011-12 season, and Oliver responded by scoring 67 points in those seven games (9.6 PPG).

Oliver also grabbed 52 rebounds in those seven games (7.4 RPG) as the Flyers' starting PF.

Dayton 67, George Washington 50 (Yahoo! Box Score - March 6, 2012)

Devin Oliver led all players in the game with 19 points, shooting 8-13 from the field, 1-1 from beyond the arc, and 2-3 from the FT line, to go along with a team-leading 8 rebounds.

Possible 2013-14 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.)

C: Alex Gavrilovic (Jr.), Devon Scott (Soph.)

PF: Devin Oliver (Sr.), Jalen Robinson (Soph.)

SF: Matt Derenbecker (Jr.), Dyshawn Pierre (Soph.), and Jalen Robinson (Soph.)

SG: Vee Sanford (Sr.), Jordan Sibert (Jr.), and Dyshawn Pierre (Soph.)

PG: Kyle Davis (Fresh.), Khari Price (Soph.) and Vee Sanford (Sr.)

* Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position.

Scholarships available for HS Class of 2013 recruits or transfers = 3.

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Originally Posted by College Hoops

At guard you've got Price, Davis, Scoochie, Sibert, and Sanford or five for two spots.

Dayshon "Scoochie" Smith would be an excellent 'get' for Dayton, but I would not yet count him as a Flyer, as he has expressed interest in a number of schools in addition to Dayton.

In any event, Archie Miller has a number players on his 2013-14 Roster who can play more than one position, which will give Archie a lot of flexibility with the three remaining scholarships - one of which I expect Archie to hold until spring 2013 for a Division I transfer.

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters on August 29, 2012

Athlete Movement in Division I Basketball Raising 'Alarm' (USA Today - June 24, 2012)

Of about 1,050 freshman men's basketball athletes at 340 D-I schools in their first two years of college:

• Only 60% continue into their third year at their original institution.

• Less than 2% leave early to play pro basketball.

• The other 38% leave. Most transfer, some drop out completely, a few others leave for undocumented professional opportunities.

NCAA president Mark Emmert said: "40% of men's basketball student-athletes aren't at their original school by the end of their sophomore year because they've transferred, they've dropped out, they've moved on."

In the spring of 2013, I would expect 400+ Division I players to tranfer. Many of these will be players from BCS conferences looking for more playing time in a conference such as the Atlantic 10.

Look for Archie to sign one of them, who will then sit out the Flyers' 2013-14 season.

Bill Russell · 09-29-2012, 06:31 AM

This isn't a slight against Derenbecker or Sanford, but I'd be really surprised if Dyshawn Pierre isn't starting by his sophomore year. He may sneak into the starting rotation as a freshman at times. The kid is a player.

Flyer75 · 09-29-2012, 07:07 AM

I hope you're right Big Bill. Pierre looks to be one of those under the radar type players that a couple of rating services, not the pay ones, thought very very highly of. ESPN gave him a 92 rating, the highest of the 4 recruits we have coming in. He needs to work on his J but seems to have everything else in order, including the length to guard all over the court.

Here's a video of Kendall Pollard from Simeon HS in Chicago, IL (visiting UD on an official today). Probably wouldn't be an immediate impact player but looks to be a very similar player to Chris Johnson at this stage. I could see him playing some 3 as a freshmen. And I agree with Muddy, Oliver is capable of playing the 4 as a senior if needed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQEF4hBBO4

AdamtheFlyer · 09-29-2012, 10:14 AM

Pollard reminds me more of the steady stream of SF types that Temple always has. I really hope he comes to UD. Tall, insanely long arms, and athleticism for days. Imagine him and Pierre together for three years, with Davis and possibly Scoochie? Plus Robinson and Scott, and two years of Sibert. Hoo boy. Let's hope it happens.

09-22-2012, 02:07 PM	#3001 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	Re: Dayton Recruiting E.C. Matthews to URI. Congrats to the Rams. UD had offered him also and I'm pretty sure X had too but not positive on that. Last edited by Flyer75; 09-22-2012 at 02:20 PM.

09-22-2012, 02:33 PM	#3002 (permalink)
paulxu Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,364 Rep Power: 309022	Re: Dayton Recruiting That does look like a nice pick up by URI. On Scout, only Dayton, Arizona and USC are showing offering him. URI not listed. __________________ *...he went up late, and I was already up there.*

09-22-2012, 02:41 PM	#3003 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	Re: Dayton Recruiting He had an odd recruitment. About a month or so ago, he came out with a final four list that included some bizarre teams and then he came out and said UD was still in the running and that we were one of 2-3 teams that were recruiting them the hardest. Then we land Davis and that probably ended that as he wanted to play PG according to everything being printed today on his commitment to URI. Who knows really...anyway, good pickup for them. I don't always trust these pay sites, even thought I pay for them, but Rivals had offers from both UD and X. Also from UMass out of the A10. http://rivals.yahoo.com/dayton/baske...Oot9Mrb81OrpB4

09-23-2012, 02:32 PM	#3004 (permalink)
Muddy Waters All-Star Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Westmont Illinois Cemetery Age: 98 Posts: 5,236 Rep Power: 64500	Re: Dayton Recruiting College Hoops Recruiting Notebook (New York Post - September 22, 2012) Curtis forward Hassan Martin and Christ the King guard Jon Severe are at Rhode Island for official visits. Martin, a 6-foot-7 forward, is down to URI, St. Joseph's and Providence, his AAU coach Chris Alesi said. The 6-foot-2 Severe recently visited UMass and plans to take an official visit to Rutgers in the near future, possibly for the Big East school's Midnight Madness. Bronx native Dayshon Smith of Putnam Science Academy (Conn.) is taking an official visit to Dayton this weekend he said, and recently added high-major scholarship offers from Illinois, Providence, and Penn State. Team SCAN AAU coach, Terrence (Munch) Williams said Drexel, St. Joseph's and Temple went to see forward Terry Larrier of The Phelps School (Pa.). Hofstra hosted guard Jaaron Simmons, a top guard from Bishop Alter, on Thursday and Friday, according to a source. Dayshon Smith Talks About His Visit (Matt Schwade, FlyerHoops.net - September 24, 2012) The Dayton Flyers hosted one of, if not the top target on their recruiting board this past weekend for an official visit. The Flyers have a commitment from one Rivals150 prospect already and are trying to add another. __________________ BIG EAST CONFERENCE IN 2014-15 Butler • Creighton • Dayton • DePaul • Georgetown • Marquette Providence • Seton Hall • St. John’s • Saint Louis • Villanova • Xavier Last edited by Muddy Waters; 09-24-2012 at 09:08 AM. Reason: link to FlyerHoops.net premium article added.

09-27-2012, 04:37 AM	#3007 (permalink)
Muddy Waters All-Star Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Westmont Illinois Cemetery Age: 98 Posts: 5,236 Rep Power: 64500	Re: Dayton Recruiting Dayton in Pollard's Final Four (Doug Harris, DDN - September 26, 2012) Kevin Pollard, an athletic wing for powerhouse Chicago Simeon Career Academy, will be visiting Dayton this weekend and has the Flyers in his final four choices. The 6-foot-5 senior said he’s also considering Virginia Tech, Rhode Island, and Colorado State. Pollard will be at UD from Friday morning to Sunday evening and has been recruited hard by Flyer coach Archie Miller. Muddy's Observations: (1) Doug Harris lifted his article straight from FlyerHoops.net (except for Kendall Pollard's first name). (2) Kendall Pollard's first name isn't 'Kevin', and never has been. (3) Douggie's grade for this article: F. (4) If Kendall Pollard doesn't become a Flyer, it will likely be because Dayton's 2013-14 Roster is loaded with players who can play the wing forward position. Possible 2012-13 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.) C: Matt Kavanaugh, Alex Gavrilovic, Josh Benson, and Devon Scott. PF: Josh Benson, Devin Oliver, Devon Scott, Jalen Robinson, and Alex Gavrilovic. SF: Matt Derenbecker, Jalen Robinson, Devin Oliver, and Dyshawn Pierre. SG: Vee Sanford, Dyshawn Pierre, and Matt Derenbecker. PG: Kevin Dillard, Khari Price, and Vee Sanford. * Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position. Dayton Flyers 5-Year Roster Sorted By Graduating Class Code: Seniors - UD Class of 2013 1. Josh Benson PF 6'-9" 228 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 rebounds)* 2. Matt Kavanaugh C 6'-9" 250 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds) 3. Kevin Dillard PG 6'-0" 182 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists) * Josh Benson missed all 16 A10 games, the A10 Tournament, and the NIT due to a knee injury. Juniors - UD Class of 2014 1. Devin Oliver CF 6'-7" 225 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 4.9 points and 5.0 rebounds) 2. Vee Sanford CG 6'-3" 196 lbs. (2011-12: sat out transfer year) Sophomores - UD Class of 2015 1. Alex Gavrilovic C 6'-9" 246 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 4.0 points and 2.8 rebounds) 2. Matt Derenbecker SF/SG 6'-7" 215 lbs. (2011-12: sat out transfer year) 3. Jordan Sibert SG 6'-4" 187 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 3.0 points and 1.4 rebounds) Freshmen - UD Class of 2016 1. Devon Scott PF 6'-9" 215 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds) 2. Jalen Robinson CF 6'-9" 243 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds) 3. Dyshawn Pierre SF/SG 6'-6" 210 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 20+ points and 10+ rebounds) 4. Khari Price PG 5'-11" 170 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 5.6 assists) High School Seniors - UD Class of 2017 1. Kyle Davis CG 6'-0" 165 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 25 points and 7 assists) __________________ BIG EAST CONFERENCE IN 2014-15 Butler • Creighton • Dayton • DePaul • Georgetown • Marquette Providence • Seton Hall • St. John’s • Saint Louis • Villanova • Xavier Last edited by Muddy Waters; 09-27-2012 at 05:19 AM. Reason: typo corrected.

09-27-2012, 04:19 AM	#3006 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	http://m.daytondailynews.com/dayton/...tguid=3OQBD5W5 Pollard visiting UD this weekend. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using VerticalSports.Com App

09-27-2012, 12:21 PM	#3008 (permalink)
AdamtheFlyer Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,819 Rep Power: 157851	Re: Dayton Recruiting If Archie can land Scoochie and Pollard, this would be a heck of a recruiting class. __________________ Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

09-28-2012, 06:12 AM	#3009 (permalink)
College Hoops 6th Man Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 336 Rep Power: 8224	Re: Dayton Recruiting From what I've read,Scoochie and Pollard were and are primary recruiting targets along with Davis for coach Miller. I'm just having a hard time with the need given the positions they play. Admittedly the conference is guard oriented. Next season UD will have Price, Davis Sibert and Sanford for guards. At least at guard I can understand playing three at a time, the ability to deploy the press or have ballhandlers on the court late in the game, anf Davis/Scoochie may be able to play both guard spots. With Derenbecker and Pierre the SF appears set. I would've thought the need for a SF would be for the 2014 recruiting class. Maybe the plan is to re shirt Pollard and let him morph into a Chris Johnson type player or they feel he can challenge for time right away. In any event, other then the PG position, I would've thought the priority would be to bring in at least one big guy to replace Benson & Kavs. Perhaps that search is a little more under the radar.

09-28-2012, 06:20 AM	#3010 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	We will still have 3 guys next at 6-9. Alex, Scott, and Robinson. Even if we land Pollard and Smith we still have one ship left. Not to mention, 2013 is just a terrible year for big men. Just awful. Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using VerticalSports.Com App

09-29-2012, 06:31 AM	#3013 (permalink)
Bill Russell Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,848 Rep Power: 34346	Re: Dayton Recruiting This isn't a slight against Derenbecker or Sanford, but I'd be really surprised if Dyshawn Pierre isn't starting by his sophomore year. He may sneak into the starting rotation as a freshman at times. The kid is a player. __________________ www.bonaalumni.com

09-29-2012, 07:07 AM	#3014 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	Re: Dayton Recruiting I hope you're right Big Bill. Pierre looks to be one of those under the radar type players that a couple of rating services, not the pay ones, thought very very highly of. ESPN gave him a 92 rating, the highest of the 4 recruits we have coming in. He needs to work on his J but seems to have everything else in order, including the length to guard all over the court. Here's a video of Kendall Pollard from Simeon HS in Chicago, IL (visiting UD on an official today). Probably wouldn't be an immediate impact player but looks to be a very similar player to Chris Johnson at this stage. I could see him playing some 3 as a freshmen. And I agree with Muddy, Oliver is capable of playing the 4 as a senior if needed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsQEF4hBBO4

09-29-2012, 10:14 AM	#3015 (permalink)
AdamtheFlyer Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,819 Rep Power: 157851	Re: Dayton Recruiting Pollard reminds me more of the steady stream of SF types that Temple always has. I really hope he comes to UD. Tall, insanely long arms, and athleticism for days. Imagine him and Pierre together for three years, with Davis and possibly Scoochie? Plus Robinson and Scott, and two years of Sibert. Hoo boy. Let's hope it happens. __________________ Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism. Last edited by AdamtheFlyer; 09-29-2012 at 10:22 AM.

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