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Old 07-08-2009, 11:53 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

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Looks like that pipe dream class is taking a huge hit. Top 10nationally is now becoming top10 in the A10 (maybe)! 1 Top100 recruit and a wishful Spearman ain't gonna land the cryers on any lists.

http://dayton.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=1080&fid=1286

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You are right. Without Payne, UDs recruiting class would be good, but nowhere near a top 20 list.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

It ain't over 'til the fat lady sings.

UD recruiting: Juwan Staten update (Doug Harris - July 8, 2009) Excerpt:

Any recruiting update on his AAU teammate, Adreian Payne?

“I’m probably around Adreian more than any other adult, other than his family and maybe his coach, and even I don’t know what he’s going to do (college-wise). We talk to him about Dayton, but we try not to bug him. At least I try. Juwan might bug him.”



17-year-olds have been known to change their minds from time to time.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:15 PM   #33 (permalink)
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...and Muddy knows a thing or two about 17 year olds
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:17 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

They've also been known to tell the local paper what they want to hear.
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Old 07-08-2009, 01:18 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

Adreian has said on multiple occassions that he intends to make all 5 Official Visits (i.e. after the regular autumn terms begin at the respective universities, and paid for by the respective universities) before making his decision.

If he does indeed do so, that implies that he will not make his decision before late September to mid-October. A lot can happen between now and then.

Scout.com: Top Class of 2010 Power Forwards

Scout.com: Top Class of 2010 Centers (C # 5 Adreian Payne)


There are still al ot of big men left on the 2010 board. Any number of schools on Adreian's list, when he decides which ones they are, just might take another available big man rather than wait until October for Adreian to decide. The longer Adreian waits to make a commitment, the fewer options he will have available. In any event, it's quite premature for anyone to claim that the Flyers are out of the picture.

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Re: Dayton Recruiting

It's easy for a reporter / recruiting analyst to get into trouble by trying to press Payne for details on his favorites. He has been a moving target for those guys since day one of this process. I think he AP enjoys confusing the whole lot of them.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

We know he has staten confused or maybe it's just the air in dayton doing it.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

I know Flyer fans will disagree, but in my mind I've already written off Payne. We've seen a pattern with local recruits commiting early, when BG is in on them early, IF they want to go to UD. Wright, Kavenaugh, and Staten all fit this profile. Payne is beyond that point. If he wants to see what else is out there, he is not going to Dayton.

I, for one, am not going to build up Payne as a "must have" for UD. I will be perfectly happy if we land another highly rated SG and bank the last scholly for the 2011 class.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

I and others have previously posted that Payne is not a "must have" for the Flyers.

He is, however, a luxury worth pursuing until he commits elsewhere.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

How can Dayton fans still think there is any chance? He has been to UD so many times over the past couple of years and played in all of the open gyms and been to the games, he has seen probably everything he could and he hasn't committed to them or even said they were one of his finalists when asked point blank if he was still considering any Ohio schools. Snow might change his opinion but that wasn't Snow's opinion, it was Payne's. And in any case Snow really hasn't been changing his opinion, he has been saying that Payne is wide open and impossible to figure out when it comes to recruiting, he was never naming leaders or anything like that except for when he mentioned that Payne was probably going to go out of state for college. That seems to be the case here.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

The problem with Snow isn't changing opinion or anything like that, it's that he rarely has an actual opinion. He's good at what he does, to a point. The thing you get when you talk to other people in and around the recruiting world is that he takes everything everybody says to to print. He rarely reads between the lines and either doesn't have a BS radar, or simply ignores the beeps.

What he says may end up being right, but that's beside the point because he'll end up reporting 3 differing points soon enough. The saying "a stopped clock is right twice a day" fits the bill here. The guy is so dedicated to getting the scoop (which is really admirable), but I think he goes about it in a flawed manner, and that leaves him open to being worked. I simply don't buy that BSnow things Dayton has been eliminated or that OSU might be on the way out. It goes against AP's personality, AP's close family and APs closest friends' words, and even APs words. There's a reason he's always quick to add "AP can change his tune at any moment". He's just spewing what the kid said word for word because he's decided that's his job. That's fine, but it really isn't his job.
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I simply don't buy that BSnow things Dayton has been eliminated or that OSU might be on the way out. It goes against AP's personality, AP's close family and APs closest friends' words, and even APs words. There's a reason he's always quick to add "AP can change his tune at any moment". He's just spewing what the kid said word for word because he's decided that's his job. That's fine, but it really isn't his job.
So Payne gives Brian Snow information and he's not supposed to quote him word for word? What the heck is his job then since you obviously think you could do better. If a kid tells any writer who covers recruiting that, "my list of schools includes X, Y, and Z...", that guy is going to print it. What's wrong with saying "AP can change his tune at any moment?" He was told by the recruit himself information that a lot of people have been wanting to hear, and like a lot of 17-18 year old kids, they can change their minds pretty quickly. If Payne is feeding him bull, that's not Snow's fault.

How does it go against Payne's word if those are the words he told Snow?

You always sound like the "know-it-all".

I guarantee you if Payne had told Snow that Dayton was on his list, Dayton fans would be taking that to the bank.
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I guarantee you if Payne had told Snow that Dayton was on his list, Dayton fans would be taking that to the bank.
Up until Snows latest questioning of Payne, Payne has been including UD, and nobody has been taking anything to the bank on this recruitment from the beginning. It's about as mysterious as they come.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

Last night, Brian Snow (who has unfortunate initials for a reporter) started an "Adreian Payne" thread in the FlyerHoops.net Red & Blue Premium Forum in which he made 5 posts. A couple of hours later, he packaged his R&B Forum posts into this article and published it on the Rivals.com network:

Payne is Looking Out of State (Brian Snow - July 8, 2009)

which is available for any Rivals.com subscriber to read.
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Two weeks ago, Rivals.com national recruiting analyst Jerry Meyer had this to say about Adreian Payne:

Analyst sings praises of UD recruit, says Payne has work to do (Doug Harris, DDN - June 24, 2009) Excerpt:

“We see the upside in him. I think, though, Adreian is reaching that point, at least in our view, where some things need to start developing here soon or his stock is going to drop,” Meyer said. “It probably dropped a little bit at the camp. He got outplayed by a couple big men who are ranked beneath him.”

Payne, who visited Xavier University last week, is the eighth-ranked prospect overall in the nation. And while he’s still coveted by the premier programs, Meyer said: “I don’t know him real well, but I hear things. And I know Dayton has a good shot at him because I don’t necessarily think he’s looking to go to the biggest school or the highest-ranked school.”
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One week ago, ESPN published this article:

Amar'e Stoudemire Nike Skills Academy (Joel Francisco - ESPN /Scouts Inc. - July 2, 2009) Excerpt:

Best Defender

1. Adreian Payne, 2010 (Dayton, Ohio/Jefferson)


Although Payne's offensive game needs polishing, his defensive presence was outstanding. Because of his length, extremely long arms and extraordinary, quick leaping ability, Payne was tough to score against. He needs to gain a considerable amount of weight and overall strength to combat getting pushed around, but his ability to cover ground in the paint and contest both shots and passes coming into the post was special.

Photo caption: Adreian Payne is considering Ohio State, Cincinnati and Dayton, among others.
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Adreian Payne is clearly saying different things to different reporters, which is his prerogative.

What is Adreian Payne really thinking ? Only one person knows the answer to that question, and it isn't Brian Snow.

If 2009 is similar to previous years, many or most of the country’s top big men will commit to high-major programs in the six-week period from August 1st to mid-September. As I posted above, if Adreian Payne waits until late September or early October to make his choice, he will have far fewer options than he has now.


Byrd Battling Injury at LeBron James Academy (Jim Comparoni - Rivals / SpartanMag.com - July 7, 2009)

If you have a Rivals.com subscription, it is well worth reading the bottom part of the article (near the second photo of Payne), which has a number of quotes attributed to Payne only two days ago. What Payne said to Jim Comparoni could well end up influencing his college choice, and it would make no sense whatsoever for Payne to say those things to Jim Comparoni if he had indeed eliminated Dayton from his consideration.

No doubt, we'll be hearing more about Adreian Payne's recruitment from Matt Schwade (FlyerHoops.net) and Doug Harris (Dayton Daily News) in the near future. It will be interesting to see whether their articles confirm or contradict what Brian Snow wrote in the article he published last night.


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Re: Dayton Recruiting

Payne Give New List?

So a day after telling Brian Snow as well as other reporters that his list didn't include any Ohio schools besides maybe OSU, Payne gives a different list to different reporters today.

This kid is very different. I'm not going to believe anything I read about him until the day he does in fact commit to a school.

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* As for Payne, he told some of us Wednesday he is down to eight schools but Ohio State was the only Ohio school still on his list. That tune changed earlier today, when he gave some reporters this list: Akron, Dayton, Xavier, Ohio State, Arizona and Kentucky.

One "informed source" told Bucknuts they find it hard to believe West Virginia -- which is making a MAJOR push in Ohio under former UC coach Bob Huggins -- will not be a factor for Payne. Stay tuned as this one plays out.
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