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Old 09-07-2009, 10:23 AM   #106 (permalink)
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They must be awesome workers. It only took them 5 years to build an NCAA team back into an NCAA team.
We can't all be as fast as you taking a week and a half to come up with that thought provoking observation.
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:32 PM   #107 (permalink)
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

Brian Gregory taught Jalen Steele a very useful lesson: "you snooze, you lose".

Jalen decided he wasn't going to let that happen to him twice:

Jalen Steele Commits to Auburn (ESPN /Scouts Inc. - Sept. 7, 2009)
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Old 09-08-2009, 08:25 AM   #108 (permalink)
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He also learned that you don't have to settle for a team that has only 1 tournament win since he was born. Maybe his lesson is not to jump at the first offer and something better will come along. Usefull lesson HAHAHAHAHAHH
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He also learned that you don't have to settle for a team that has only 1 tournament win since he was born. Maybe his lesson is not to jump at the first offer and something better will come along. Usefull lesson HAHAHAHAHAHH
Auburn? Really? Better? Really? I hope Auburn works out for him and it is a BCS school but have you even looked at AU record since 01-02???

01-02: 11-16
02-03: 21-11 (2 NCAA wins)
03-04: 14-14
04-05: 14-17
05-06: 12-16
06-07: 17-15
07-08: 14-16
08-09: 24-12 (2 NIT wins)

In that time span AU is 5-3 vs. the A10, there 3 losses being to X and UD. Had he chosen KY, Tenn, Duke, or UNC over UD then I'd understand a little better. It had been speculated for months with JS that he was holding out for "bigger and better". We'll he got bigger and better in in the sense that he goes to a bigger conf but it's debatable if he choose better in the since of winning percentage and a one game adv. in the NCAA.
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Re: Dayton Recruiting

I have said that I still think that X has more talent than any other team in the league, but Dayton's recruiting under Gregory is very good. I look forward to the match-ups against them over the next few years. I'm not into this continuous flaming on either side.
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Auburn? Really? Better? Really? I hope Auburn works out for him and it is a BCS school but have you even looked at AU record since 01-02???



In that time span AU is 5-3 vs. the A10, there 3 losses being to X and UD. Had he chosen KY, Tenn, Duke, or UNC over UD then I'd understand a little better. It had been speculated for months with JS that he was holding out for "bigger and better". We'll he got bigger and better in in the sense that he goes to a bigger conf but it's debatable if he choose better in the since of winning percentage and a one game adv. in the NCAA.
Why 01-02? Seems that if you go back to UD's success in the NCAA's for the past 20 years vs. Auburn's then the #'s skew toward Auburn. Toss in an SEC school with the exposure that brings and his decision doesn't seem like BG taught him any kind of lesson at all. The kid wasn't ready to commit and was trying for bigger and better offers. Did it backfire? I don't think so but I don't wear blue and red glasses. Those belong to the stooges and Loki.
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Old 09-08-2009, 03:21 PM   #112 (permalink)
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Why 01-02? Seems that if you go back to UD's success in the NCAA's for the past 20 years vs. Auburn's then the #'s skew toward Auburn. Toss in an SEC school with the exposure that brings and his decision doesn't seem like BG taught him any kind of lesson at all. The kid wasn't ready to commit and was trying for bigger and better offers. Did it backfire? I don't think so but I don't wear blue and red glasses. Those belong to the stooges and Loki.
Sure he was looking for bigger offers. Like Latham, Parrom and Weatherspoon when they decommited and Kryl whatever his name who Miller indicated refused to sign to X, but upon the coaching change immediately committed to AU without even a visit.

However your stated belief that Steele would have picked Auburn over UD is pretty stupid given the recent history.
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Dayton's recruiting has been improving and improving under BG. It's rather remarkable.
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:44 AM   #114 (permalink)
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However your stated belief that Steele would have picked Auburn over UD is pretty stupid given the recent history.
Recent history of what? Do you think it's stupid for kids to even consider going to IU given the recent history?
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Recent history of what? Do you think it's stupid for kids to even consider going to IU given the recent history?
That's a horrible comparison. AU and IU aren't comparable...nor is UD and IU. IU is, like Notre Dame football, still a top10 coaching position in the country. I'm not who is going to say that UD was a BETTER option then AU for Steele but as far as success goes in the last 10 years, it's a wash. UD plays in a much better home environment, AU plays in the SEC. I can't blame Steele for going to AU. We'll never know if he would've chosen UD over AU if a scholly were still open.

BTW, I chose 01-02 for the analysis because if I go back 20 years then JS wasn't even a sperm cell at that point. Even going back 10 years you're talking he was only 8 years old. Only a few programs transcend time (UCLA, Kansas, Duke, UNC, IU, ect) AU is not one of them. Most, I said most, of these recruits are pretty going to try and stay close to home while evaluating their choices based on a 3-5 year success rate of that school. All it took was for one exciting year at UD with the addition of Wright and the recruiting flood gates have opened up at UD. If these kids look at 20 years, then Spearman would've had DePaul right up there with UD.

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I don't think you give these kids as much credit as they deserve. Just looking at the past 3-5 years is lip service. They look at who is already playing the position they want to play. They look at who else is being recruited both at the same position and who they would play along side. They look at the relationships they have with the coaching staff. They look at the academics. They probably look at what there is to do during the off season. There is a plethora of things the look at far beyond what the last 3-5 years have produced.
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Dayton's recruiting has been improving and improving under BG. It's rather remarkable.
What's so remarkable about it? One NCAA tournament win in six or seven years. Yeah he is setting the world on fire up there.
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I don't think you give these kids as much credit as they deserve. Just looking at the past 3-5 years is lip service. They look at who is already playing the position they want to play. They look at who else is being recruited both at the same position and who they would play along side. They look at the relationships they have with the coaching staff. They look at the academics. They probably look at what there is to do during the off season. There is a plethora of things the look at far beyond what the last 3-5 years have produced.
Ok, this I agree with but this isn't what you said originally that I took you up on when you let out your big wailing laugh. You didn't mention any of this then.
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My wailing laugh was at MW/Prop/2link and his delusional posts. I'm sorry for the confusion but I don't quote he/she/it anymore out of respect for the Xavier fans that have him on ignor.
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My wailing laugh was at MW/Prop/2link and his delusional posts. I'm sorry for the confusion but I don't quote he/she/it anymore out of respect for the Xavier fans that have him on ignor.


Thank you for that.
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