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**FlyingElvis** · 09-05-2012, 01:23 PM

"49 pounds in six months" has to be a mistake. That only happens when Sumo wrestlers eat pure lard for every meal.

I can see it being 49 pounds since arriving at UD. Even that is a lot in 1.5 years, but much more plausible.

Knobby · 09-05-2012, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyingElvis

"49 pounds in six months" has to be a mistake. That only happens when Sumo wrestlers eat pure lard for every meal.

... or maybe steroids?

MudFlap · 09-05-2012, 04:16 PM

He'll need a scooter to get down the floor.

Muddy Waters · 09-06-2012, 06:42 PM

Muddy’s Predictions – Rev. 0 – September 6, 2012

Predictions of the outcomes of A10 Conference games are necessarily based on a preconceived perception of a Predicted Order of Finish, taking into consideration the location of the game (home, neutral or away) and factoring in the match-ups (strengths and weaknesses at each position) of the individual players on the teams concerned.

For the purpose of predicting the Flyers’ individual A10 game results, I will be assuming the following:

Atlantic 10 Predicted Order of Finish:

1. Virginia Commonwealth
2. Dayton
3. St. Joseph's
4. Saint Louis
5. UMass
6. Butler
7. Temple
8. Richmond
9. La Salle
10. Xavier
11. St. Bonaventure
12. George Washington

13. Rhode Island
14. Charlotte
15. Fordham
16. Duquesne

The reason I have picked Dayton to finish second is because the Flyers have a very favorable A10 Conference schedule.

Dayton Flyers Predicted Results:

Code:

Nov. 10, 2012   Saturday    Arkansas State                  UD Arena - HOME WIN  
        
Nov. 15, 2012   Thursday    Colorado (Charleston Classic)   TD Arena - NEUTRAL WIN           
Nov. 16, 2012   Friday      Baylor (Charleston Classic)     TD Arena - NEUTRAL LOSS           
Nov. 18, 2012   Sunday      Auburn/Charleston/
                            Murray State/St. John’s (C.C.)  TD Arena - NEUTRAL WIN           

Nov. 24, 2012   Saturday    Manhattan                       UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Nov. 28, 2012   Wednesday   Weber State                     UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 01, 2012   Saturday    Northern Illinois               UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 05, 2012   Wednesday   @ Alabama                       Coleman Coliseum - ROAD LOSS                    
Dec. 08, 2012   Saturday    Miami (OH)                      UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 15, 2012   Saturday    Florida Atlantic                UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 19, 2012   Wednesday   Illinois State                  UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 22, 2012   Saturday    Murray State                    UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Dec. 30, 2012   Sunday      @ Southern California           Galen Center - ROAD LOSS                             
Jan. 05, 2013   Saturday    UAB                             UD Arena -  HOME WIN   
        
Jan. 09, 2013   Wednesday   @ Virginia Commonwealth         Verizon Arena - ROAD LOSS                             
Jan. 12, 2013   Saturday    Butler                          UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Jan. 16, 2013   Wednesday   @ La Salle                      Gola Arena - ROAD WIN                    
Jan. 23, 2013   Wednesday   Fordham                         UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Jan. 26, 2013   Saturday    Duquesne                        UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Jan. 30, 2013   Wednesday   @ Xavier                        Cintas Center - ROAD WIN                             
Feb. 02, 2013   Saturday    @ Saint Louis                   Chaifetz Arena - ROAD LOSS         
Feb. 06, 2013   Wednesday   Saint Joseph's                  UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Feb. 09, 2013   Saturday    Temple                          UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Feb. 13, 2013   Wednesday   @ Rhode Island                  Ryan Center - ROAD WIN                             
Feb. 16, 2013   Saturday    Xavier                          UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Feb. 23, 2013   Saturday    @ Massachusetts                 Mullins Center - ROAD LOSS         
Feb. 27, 2013   Wednesday   @ Charlotte                     Halton Arena - ROAD WIN                             
Mar. 02, 2013   Saturday    Richmond                        UD Arena -  HOME WIN           
Mar. 06, 2013   Wednesday   St. Bonaventure                 UD Arena -  HOME WIN    
Mar. 09, 2013   Saturday    @ George Washington             Smith Center - ROAD WIN

Summary:

Scheduled Games: 30 (17 Home, 3 Neutral Site, 10 Away)

Non-conference Record: 11 - 3

Non-conference Losses (3): Baylor (Neutral), @ Alabama, @ Southern California.

Atlantic 10 Record: 13 - 3

Atlantic 10 Home Record: 8 - 0

Atlantic 10 Road Record: 5 - 3

Atlantic 10 Conference Losses (3): @ Virginia Commonwealth, @ Saint Louis, @ Massachusetts.

Atlantic 10 Home Wins (8): Butler, Fordham, Duquesne, Saint Joseph's, Temple, Xavier, Richmond, St. Bonaventure.

Atlantic 10 Road Wins (5): @ La Salle, @ Xavier, @ Rhode Island, @ Charlotte, @ George Washington.

Overall Record: 24 – 6

Muddy's Observations:

(1) If Dayton played at Butler, St. Joseph's, Temple, or Richmond, I would have predicted those games as losses for the Flyers.

(2) Dayton plays Butler, St. Joseph's, Temple, and Richmond at UD Arena.

(3) The 'Curse of Jimmy Carter' should end on Wednesday, January 30, 2013.

Muddy Waters · 09-06-2012, 06:43 PM

More Predictions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Waters on September 17, 2012

Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers - Post # 308

On September 14, 2012, Xavier lost Myles Davis and Jalen Reynolds for the 2012-13 season, leaving Chris Mack with only 8 scholarshipped players on his Roster.

Consequently, Xavier drops from # 10 to # 13 in Rev. 1 of Muddy's Predictions.

Muddy’s Predictions – Rev. 1 – September 17, 2012

Atlantic 10 Predicted Order of Finish:

1. Virginia Commonwealth
2. Dayton
3. St. Joseph's
4. Saint Louis
5. UMass
6. Butler
7. Temple
8. Richmond
9. La Salle
10. St. Bonaventure
11. George Washington
12. Rhode Island

13. Xavier
14. Charlotte
15. Fordham
16. Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bona84 on September 20, 2012

Athlon Sports Predictions - Post # 1

1. VCU, NCAA 7 seed
2. Saint Louis, NCAA 9 seed
3. Temple, NCAA 11 seed
4. UMass, NIT
5. Butler, NIT
6. St. Joe's, NIT
7. St. Bonaventure, NIT
8. Xavier
9. La Salle
10. Dayton
11. Richmond
12. Charlotte

13. Fordham
14. George Washington
15. Rhode Island
16. Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by Run49er on September 26, 2012

Lindy's picks for the A-10:

1. Saint Louis - NCAA
2. Butler - NCAA
3. Temple - NCAA
4. VCU - NCAA
5. St. Joe's
6. Xavier
7. UMass
8. Richmond
9. Dayton
10. La Salle
11. GW
12. St. Bonaventure

13. Charlotte
14. URI
15. Fordham
16. Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 26, 2012

Thoughts on new season - Post # 1

WH's Predicted Order of Finish - Rev. 0

SUPERSEDED BY REV. 1 BELOW

1) St. Louis
2) St. Joe’s
3) Temple
4) Massachusetts
5) VCU
6) LaSalle
7) St. Bonaventure
8) Richmond
9) Dayton
10) Butler
11) Fordham
12) Charlotte

13) George Washington
14) Xavier
15) Rhode Island
16) Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistrictBaller on October 4, 2012

A-10 Media Day today at Barclays Center in Brooklyn - Post # 3

A-10 Preseason Poll:

1. St. Joe's
2. Saint Louis
3. VCU
4. Temple
5. UMass
6. Butler
7. La Salle
8. Dayton
9. Xavier
10. Richmond
11. St. Bonaventure
12. Charlotte

13. George Washington
14. Fordham
15. Rhode Island
16. Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on October 4, 2012

A-10 Media Day today at Barclays Center in Brooklyn - Post # 52

WH's Predicted Order of Finish - Rev. 1

I went thru all the skeds and marked wins and losses for league play. Took into account which teams usually have home-court advantages, unbalanced sked, who plays who twice. Here is what I came up with for a loose predicted finish.

1) TEMPLE 12-4
2) ST. LOUIS 12-4
3) UMASS 12-4
4) VCU 11-5
5) ST. JOES 11-5
6) LASALLE 10-6
7) DAYTON 9-7
8) BUTLER 9-7
9) RICHMOND 9-7
10) ST. BONA 8-8
11) GW 6-10
12) CHARLOTTE 5-11

13) XAVIER 5-11
14) FORDHAM 4-12
15) DUQUESNE 3-13
16) RHODY 3-13

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on October 10, 2012

DAYTON - NONCON FORECAST - Post # 1

W - NOV. 10 ARKANSAS STATE
L - Nov. 15 vs. Colorado (Charleston Classic)
L - Nov. 16 vs. Baylor/Boston College (Charleston Classic)
W- - Nov. 18 at Charleston Classic
L - NOV. 24 MANHATTAN
W- NOV. 28 WEBER STATE
W- DEC. 1 NORTHERN ILLINOIS
L - Dec. 5 at Alabama
W - DEC. 8 MIAMI (OHIO)
W- DEC. 15 FLORIDA ATLANTIC
W- DEC. 19 ILLINOIS STATE
W DEC. 22 MURRAY STATE
L - Dec. 30 at Southern Cal
W- JAN. 5 UAB

NONCON FORECAST: 9-5

A-10 FORECAST: 9-7

OVERALL PREDICTION: 18-12

Dayton has a tough schedule and things could be very bumpy early on, but there's a lot of home cooking to finish strong.

Arkansas State returns four starters including star guard Trey Finn and the team is expected to contend for the Sunbelt title. Arkansas State, coached by former LSU headman John Brady, upset Bonaventure in Olean last year, so this is a dangerous game.

Colorado won the Pac 10 last year and they have a good nucleus back from a 24-win team. Forward Andre Roberson is one of the league's best players.

I see Dayton losing to the Buffs and then getting nipped by a much improved BC squad in the second game. BC's frontcourt can hang with the Flyers but the PG slot is unsettled. Dilliard has to have a big game for the Flyers to pull the game out.

Final game of the Charleston classic could involve a game with either Charleston, St Johns, Auburn or Murray State. All have question marks but are beatable. I call it a win.

Back home Dayton gets another rude shock from a Manhattan team that won 21 games and returns all five starters, including standout guard George Beamon. Speedy Jaspers stun the home crowd.

Flyers get back on track with home wins over rebuilding Northern Illinois (5-26) and a good Weber State team that has to replace three starters, including its point guard and NBA lottery pick Damian Lilliard.

A trip to Alabama results in a loss. Tide is younger than last year's 21-win team - no more JaMychal Green or Tony Mitchell - and ripe for an upset, but I see Alabama avenging last year's loss in Dayton.

Back home again, the Flyers rip off wins vs Miami Ohio, Florida Atlantic, Illinois State and Murray State. Miami replaces longtime coach Charlie Coles and his methodical approach that often bothered Dayton. Florida Atlantic, coached by former GW boss Mike Jarvis, lost four key players to tranfer and is rebuilding.

Illinois State might have one of its best teams in years and should contend for the MVC title. Big forward Jackie Carmichael is a star and the team is full of good shooters. Flyers need this game and squeak out a home victory.

Murray State, meanwhile, lost three starters from its 30-win team and won't be quite as good. Another tough game that Dayton pulls out.

USC only won 6 games last season, but the team gets back a lot of healthy veterans who returned from injury, including former Fordham starting PG Jio Fontan. West Coast trips are always tough.

Dayton ends its noncon slate with a win over UAB, which replaced coach Mike Davis and has a thin roster.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistrictBaller on October 6, 2012

2012-2013 Blue Ribbon A-10 Predicted Order of Finish - Post # 1

1. Saint Louis
2. VCU
3. St. Joe's
4. Temple
5. UMass
6. Butler
7. Dayton
8. La Salle
9. Richmond
10. Xavier
11. St. Bonaventure
12. Charlotte

13. Rhode Island
14. George Washington
15. Fordham
16. Duquesne

FlyersHoops 2012-13 Predictions (Matt Schwade, FlyersHoops - October 10, 2012)

Xavier Musketeers Basketball Season Preview (Evan Williams, SI.com - October 10, 2012)

Quote:

Originally Posted by DistrictBaller on October 12, 2012

CBS Bracketologist Jerry Palm has A-10 with 5 NCAA bids - Post # 1

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology

The A-10 would be tied with the SEC in that scenario and only behind the Big East (8), ACC (6), Big 12 (6), and Big 10 (7).

VCU wins the auto-bid, gets a 6-seed.

Butler gets an at-large and an 11-seed.

UMass gets a play-in spot in the First Four and a 12-seed.

Saint Louis gets an at-large and a 7-seed.

Temple gets an at-large and a 9-seed.

Mens Basketball Top 144 Previews (Joel Welser, College Sports Madness)

Code:

               Welser's Predictions:                 Welser's  
                  Overall    Rank      Final 2012    Predicted             
Team                Rank    in A10     RPI Ranking   Change

Saint Louis          24        1            28       +  4 places
VCU                  27        2            34       +  7 places   
Xavier               41        3            38       -  3 places   
St. Joseph's         46        4            77       + 31 places 

UMass                58        5            62       +  4 places 
Butler               66        6           106       + 40 places        
Temple               71        7            22       - 49 places
La Salle             80        8            95       + 15 places 
Dayton               92        9            91       -  1 place

St. Bonaventure     112       10            76       - 36 places
George Washington   137       11           189       + 52 places

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WH's 2012-2013 A-10 Predictions (Muddy Waters, 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Post # 338 - October 1, 2012)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 28, 2012

BEST A-10 POINT GUARDS

1) Tyreek Duren, LaSalle

2) Chaz Williams, Massachusetts

3) Kevin Dillard, Dayton

Dillard is an excellent distributor and creator who handles the ball like a yo-yo on a string. He runs an offense as well as any guard in the A-10 and can get his own shots, too.

4) Kwamain Mitchell, St. Louis

5) Darius Theus, VCU

Kevin Dillard 2011-12 Game Log (Yahoo!)

Most Points: 23 vs. Iowa on March 13, 2012.

Most Assists: 13 vs. Rhode Island on January 28, 2012.

Memorable Performances:

19 points and 10 assists vs. Minnesota on November 27, 2011.

18 points and 10 assists vs. Saint Louis on January 4, 2012.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 28, 2012

BEST A-10 SHOOTING GUARDS

1) Khalif Wyatt, Temple

2) Langston Galloway, St. Joseph’s

3) Ramon Galloway, LaSalle

4) Rotnei Clarke, Butler

5) Kendall Anthony, Richmond.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 28, 2012

BEST A-10 SMALL FORWARDS

1) Demitrius Conger, Bonaventure

2) Raphiael Putney, Massachusetts

3) Halil Kanocevic, St. Joseph’s

4) Scootie Randall, Temple

5)Khyle Marshall, Butler

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 28, 2012

BEST A-10 POWER FORWARDS

1) Chris Gaston, Fordham

2) Chris Braswell, Charlotte

3) Ron Roberts Jr., St. Joseph’s

4) Derrick Williams, Richmond

5) Jerrell Wright, LaSalle

Dayton’s Josh Benson and GW's David are obviously fine players with all-league potential. Benson has always been a guy who, on paper and when you see him physically, should be among the league's best inside players. Pellom is an excellent defender who's terrific in transition, but his offense has always been the underwater side of his game.

I left both of the list because of injuries.

Josh Benson 2011-12 Game Log (Yahoo!)

Most Points: 21 vs. Western Illinois on November 12, 2011.

Most Rebounds: 9 vs. Seton Hall on December 21, 2011.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 29, 2012

BEST A-10 CENTERS

1) CJ Aiken, St. Joseph's

2) Juvonte Reddic, VCU

3) Matt Kavanaugh, Dayton

The Flyers' plodding and cheerfully annoying bigman (9 ppg, 6 rpb, 55% FG) might as well wear a lunch bucket on his head. Kavanaugh's game is all about effort, hustle - and smart positioning. He is not especially athletic and gets his shots blocked a lot, but Kavanaugh persists. He scores a lot on his own followups and actually has soft hands and a nice touch around the basket. He an excellent free-throw shooter at 80%, too.

4) Andrew Smith, Butler

5) Anthony Lee, Temple

Matt Kavanaugh 2011-12 Game Log (Yahoo!)

Most Points: 23 vs. La Salle on January 14, 2012.

Most Rebounds: 13 vs. Wake Forest on November 24, 2011.

Memorable Performance: Xavier 86, Dayton 83, OT at Cintas Center (Yahoo! Box Score - February 18, 2012)
C Matt Kavanaugh: 11 points and 11 rebounds.

C Kenny Frease: 5 points and 3 rebounds.

(Tu Holloway, Mark Lyons, and Dez Wells combined for 64 of Xavier’s 86 points.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 28, 2012

A-10 ALL-LEAGUE PICKS

FIRST TEAM
Khalif Wyatt, Temple (POY)
Chaz Williams, Massachusetts
Tyreek Duren, LaSalle
Kevin Dilliard, Dayton
Chris Gaston, Fordham

SECOND TEAM
Langston Galloway, St. Joseph’s
Rotnei Clarke, Butler
Chris Braswell, Charlotte
Kwamain Mitchell, St. Louis
CJ Aiken, St. Joseph’s

THIRD TEAM
Darius Theus, VCU
Derrick Williams, Richmond
Demetrius Conger, Bonaventure
Andrew Smith, Butler
Carl Jones, St. Joseph’s

FOURTH TEAM
Scootie Randall, Temple
Juvonte Reddic, VCU
Ronald Roberts, St. Joseph’s
Kendall Anthony, Richmond
Raphiael Putney, Massachusetts

ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM
CJ Aiken, St. Joseph’s (D-POY)
Darius Theus, VCU
Jordair Jett, St. Louis
Pierria Henry, Charlotte
Richard Hollis-Jefferson, Temple

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 26, 2012

Thoughts on new season

Dayton has a fine point guard in Kevin Dilliard and two solid bigmen in Josh Benson and Matt Kavanaugh. After that, though, and there lots of questions. Vee Sandford, Georgetown transfer, will have to step in and step up right away. Hard for me to see this team getting to the postseason given what I know now. An above-.500 team, probably, but not much more.

1) St. Louis
2) St. Joe’s
3) Temple
4) Massachusetts
5) VCU
6) LaSalle
7) St. Bonaventure
8) Richmond
9) Dayton
10) Butler
11) Fordham
12) Charlotte

13) George Washington
14) Xavier
15) Rhode Island
16) Duquesne

Quote:

Originally Posted by WH on September 30, 2012

Ranking the A-10 Coaches

1) Fran Dunphy (444-228)

2) Brad Stevens (139-40)

3) Shaka Smart (84-28)

4) Chris Mack (73-30)

Mack might be the best recruiter in the league and he is an above-average coach. He gives his players some freedom in a somewhat structured offense and his teams are tough defensively. His coaching acumen will get sorely tested this year with a thin, young roster and the league will learn a lot more about him.

5) Phil Martelli (313-216)

6) Chris Mooney, Richmond. (146-115)

7) Archie Miller, Dayton (20-13)

Miller hit the ground running, though he had a solid roster with which to work. He’s also recruited very well in a season and a half. Another young coach from a family with a long pedigree, Miller showed good X and Os on both sides of the ball in his first year and maximized the talent on his roster – the first sign of any fine coach. One year is too little to judge, however.

8) Derrick Kellogg, Massachusetts (64-65)

9) Mark Schmidt, Bonaventure (156-170)

10) John Giannini, LaSalle (244-239)

11) Mike Lonergan, GW (136-89)

12) Tom Pecora, Fordham (172-166)

13) Alan Major, Charlotte (23-36).

Not rated: Jim Ferry, Danny Hurley, Jim Crews

Jim Crews (353-349)

Jim Ferry (150-149)

Danny Hurley (38-23)

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Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Numeric Roster

Code:

No. Player

 0  Khari Price
 1  Kevin Dillard
 2  Josh Benson  
 3  Mitch Asmus  (walk-on) 
 5  Devin Oliver 

12  Jalen Robinson
15  Matt Derenbecker 

21  Dyshawn Pierre
23  Brian Vonderhaar  (walk-on)
25  Alex Gavrilovic 

35  Matt Kavanaugh 

40  Devon Scott
42  Dennis Williams  (walk-on)
43  Vee Sanford 
--  Jordan Sibert  (Will sit out 2012-13 season.)

Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Roster

Code:

    Player            Class      Pos.  Height  Weight    Hometown
      
 1. Matt Kavanaugh    Senior      C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  Centerville, OH
 2. Alex Gavrilovic   Sophomore   C    6'-9"   246 lbs.  Strasbourg, France

 3. Jalen Robinson    Freshman  PF/C   6'-9"   243 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 4. Devon Scott       Freshman  PF/C   6'-9"   215 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 5. Josh Benson       RS Senior  PF    6'-9"   228 lbs.  Dayton, OH

 6. Devin Oliver      Junior     CF    6'-7"   225 lbs.  Kalamazoo, MI

 7. Matt Derenbecker  RS Soph. SF/SG   6'-7"   215 lbs.  Metairie, LA
 8. Dyshawn Pierre    Fresh.   SF/SG   6'-6"   210 lbs.  Whitby, Ontario 

 9. Jordan Sibert     RS Soph.   SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  Cincinnati, OH (Will sit out 2012-13 season.)
10. Vee Sanford       RS Junior  CG    6'-3"   192 lbs.  Lexington, KY  

11. Kevin Dillard     RS Senior  PG    6'-0"   182 lbs.  Homewood, IL 
12. Khari Price       Freshman   PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  Slidell, LA

Scholarships presently available for a Spring 2013 Division I transfer = 1.

Possible 2012-13 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.)

C: Matt Kavanaugh, Alex Gavrilovic, Jalen Robinson, and Devon Scott.

PF: Josh Benson, Devon Scott, Jalen Robinson, and Alex Gavrilovic.

SF: Matt Derenbecker, Devin Oliver, and Dyshawn Pierre.

SG: Vee Sanford, Dyshawn Pierre, and Matt Derenbecker.

PG: Kevin Dillard, Khari Price, and Vee Sanford.

* Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position.

Dayton Flyers 5-Year Roster Sorted By Graduating Class

Code:

Seniors - UD Class of 2013 

1. Josh Benson       PF    6'-9"   228 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 rebounds)*
2. Matt Kavanaugh     C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds)
3. Kevin Dillard     PG    6'-0"   182 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists)
 * Josh Benson missed all 16 A10 games, the A10 Tournament, and the NIT due to a knee injury.    

Juniors - UD Class of 2014

1. Devin Oliver      CF    6'-7"   225 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.9 points and 5.0 rebounds)
2. Vee Sanford       CG    6'-3"   196 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)

Sophomores - UD Class of 2015

1. Alex Gavrilovic    C    6'-9"   246 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.0 points and 2.8 rebounds)
2. Matt Derenbecker SF/SG  6'-7"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)
3. Jordan Sibert     SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  3.0 points and 1.4 rebounds) 
 
Freshmen - UD Class of 2016

1. Devon Scott      PF/C   6'-9"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds)   
2. Jalen Robinson   PF/C   6'-9"   243 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds)
3. Dyshawn Pierre   SF/SG  6'-6"   210 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 20+ points and 10+ rebounds)
4. Khari Price       PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 5.6 assists)

High School Seniors - UD Class of 2017

1. Kyle Davis        CG    6'-1"   165 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 25 points and 7 assists) 
2. Dayshon Smith     CG    6'-2"   170 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 17 points and 6 assists)
3. Kendall Pollard   SF    6'-6"   185 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged ?? points and ?? rebounds)

Dayton Flyers 2011-12 Sortable Stats (Yahoo!)

Bill Russell · 09-06-2012, 06:49 PM

13-3 in this Atlantic 10? I don't think so. Not with that front court.

X-band '01 · 09-06-2012, 07:03 PM

xavierhoops · 09-06-2012, 07:29 PM

z8 and Muddy are on fire tonight. Their predictions are pure comedy.

P.S.- Muddy, that last post I think you've posted close to a dozen times already this week, and probably 100 since the end of last season. No one read it or clicked any of your links the first time, probably aren't doing it now. Save us all some scrolling...

If UD does beat Xavier finally, at least it will be after Jan. 20. Carter, Reagan (2), Bush, Clinton (2), Bush (2), Obama, Romney. Sad, sad state of affairs in Flyer land.

Flyer75 · 09-06-2012, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xavierhoops

z8 and Muddy are on fire tonight. Their predictions are pure comedy.

P.S.- Muddy, that last post I think you've posted close to a dozen times already this week, and probably 100 since the end of last season. No one read it or clicked any of your links the first time, probably aren't doing it now. Save us all some scrolling...

If UD does beat Xavier finally, at least it will be after Jan. 20. Carter, Reagan (2), Bush, Clinton (2), Bush (2), Obama, Romney. Sad, sad state of affairs in Flyer land.

More then anything, I hope you are right about your order of the presidents.

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Knobby · 09-07-2012, 05:48 AM

Those predictions are a little ambitious even for you Muddy. I appreciate the loss at Umass, but undefeated at home - I don't think so.... You will struggle at LaSalle and St Joes at home should be a loss too. I can almost get on board with 11 wins considering you get most of the tough opponents at home, but you still haven't shaken the curse of Archie's predecessor (who's name I shall not repeat) so I will say........ Oh I don't know....... let's go with 8-8.....

Muddy Waters · 09-07-2012, 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Russell

13-3 in this Atlantic 10? I don't think so. Not with that front court.

Dayton actually has a pretty good front court this season.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Waters on September 5, 2012

Devin Oliver is a junior combo-forward who improved very significantly during his sophomore year at UD after replacing the injured Josh Benson.

Archie Miller inserted Oliver as the starting PF in the Flyers' last seven games of the 2011-12 season, and Oliver responded by scoring 67 ponts in those seven games (9.6 PPG).

Oliver also grabbed 52 rebounds in those seven games (7.4 RPG) as the Flyers' starting PF.

Dayton Knocks Out George Washington 67-50 (The Associated Press - March 6, 2012)

DAYTON, Ohio (AP) -- Devin Oliver scored a season-high 19 points and Dayton defeated George Washington for the second time in four days, taking a 67-50 win Tuesday night in the first round of the Atlantic 10 Conference Tournament.

Dayton 67, George Washington 50 (Yahoo! Box Score - March 6, 2012)

Devin Oliver led all players in the game with 19 points, shooting 8-13 from the field, 1-1 from beyond the arc, and 2-3 from the FT line, to go along with a team-leading 8 rebounds.

Bona Wolf for Pope · 09-07-2012, 07:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Waters

Dayton actually has a pretty good front court this season.

Wow, he had identical stats in both of their identical wins over GW. Oh, wait, you just posted two links to the same performance.

AdamtheFlyer · 09-07-2012, 09:38 AM

Muddy actually has a point, Dayton's front court should be solid, and could be very good if Benson can be what he was before the injury. Kavanaugh is solid, I would expect growth from Gavrilovic and Oliver, and they add two impressive freshmen who should be able to give quality minutes.

The backcourt will determine Dayton's level of success this year. Dillard is great, and I love what I hear about Sanford. Derenbecker and Oliver can give minutes at the 2. Khari Price is a total unknown. The talent is there, but depth isn't. Need to stay healthy.

I feel pretty good about this team. Not going to predict 13-3. That would be like saying a 3 handicap is going to shoot 69, possible but very unlikely. But I see no reason why this team can't go 11-5 given reasonable health.

**xu95** · 09-07-2012, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by A10fan2

Over 30 years and I'll bet you've said this over half the time. That squirrel is finally gonna eat someday but I wouldn't hold my breath or bet against X.

This will probably be the year. If Dayton can't get it done this year it might be another 30. Xavier is looking at about a .500 record this year.

Flyer75 · 09-07-2012, 09:47 AM

^^^I'm seriously worried about the game in Cincy this year because you're right. XU was a lot better on the "pre season paper" last year then UD and we almost pulled it out in OT at Cincy. UD is without a doubt (if Davis and Reynolds aren't playing) better on paper then XU this preseason....we will lose by 17 down there.

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09-05-2012, 04:16 PM	#228 (permalink)
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09-06-2012, 06:42 PM	#229 (permalink)
Muddy Waters All-Star Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Westmont Illinois Cemetery Age: 98 Posts: 5,235 Rep Power: 64500	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Muddy’s Predictions – Rev. 0 – September 6, 2012 Predictions of the outcomes of A10 Conference games are necessarily based on a preconceived perception of a Predicted Order of Finish, taking into consideration the location of the game (home, neutral or away) and factoring in the match-ups (strengths and weaknesses at each position) of the individual players on the teams concerned. For the purpose of predicting the Flyers’ individual A10 game results, I will be assuming the following: Atlantic 10 Predicted Order of Finish: 1. Virginia Commonwealth 2. Dayton 3. St. Joseph's 4. Saint Louis 5. UMass 6. Butler 7. Temple 8. Richmond 9. La Salle 10. Xavier 11. St. Bonaventure 12. George Washington 13. Rhode Island 14. Charlotte 15. Fordham 16. Duquesne The reason I have picked Dayton to finish second is because the Flyers have a very favorable A10 Conference schedule. Dayton Flyers Predicted Results: Code: Nov. 10, 2012 Saturday Arkansas State UD Arena - HOME WIN Nov. 15, 2012 Thursday Colorado (Charleston Classic) TD Arena - NEUTRAL WIN Nov. 16, 2012 Friday Baylor (Charleston Classic) TD Arena - NEUTRAL LOSS Nov. 18, 2012 Sunday Auburn/Charleston/ Murray State/St. John’s (C.C.) TD Arena - NEUTRAL WIN Nov. 24, 2012 Saturday Manhattan UD Arena - HOME WIN Nov. 28, 2012 Wednesday Weber State UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 01, 2012 Saturday Northern Illinois UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 05, 2012 Wednesday @ Alabama Coleman Coliseum - ROAD LOSS Dec. 08, 2012 Saturday Miami (OH) UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 15, 2012 Saturday Florida Atlantic UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 19, 2012 Wednesday Illinois State UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 22, 2012 Saturday Murray State UD Arena - HOME WIN Dec. 30, 2012 Sunday @ Southern California Galen Center - ROAD LOSS Jan. 05, 2013 Saturday UAB UD Arena - HOME WIN Jan. 09, 2013 Wednesday @ Virginia Commonwealth Verizon Arena - ROAD LOSS Jan. 12, 2013 Saturday Butler UD Arena - HOME WIN Jan. 16, 2013 Wednesday @ La Salle Gola Arena - ROAD WIN Jan. 23, 2013 Wednesday Fordham UD Arena - HOME WIN Jan. 26, 2013 Saturday Duquesne UD Arena - HOME WIN Jan. 30, 2013 Wednesday @ Xavier Cintas Center - ROAD WIN Feb. 02, 2013 Saturday @ Saint Louis Chaifetz Arena - ROAD LOSS Feb. 06, 2013 Wednesday Saint Joseph's UD Arena - HOME WIN Feb. 09, 2013 Saturday Temple UD Arena - HOME WIN Feb. 13, 2013 Wednesday @ Rhode Island Ryan Center - ROAD WIN Feb. 16, 2013 Saturday Xavier UD Arena - HOME WIN Feb. 23, 2013 Saturday @ Massachusetts Mullins Center - ROAD LOSS Feb. 27, 2013 Wednesday @ Charlotte Halton Arena - ROAD WIN Mar. 02, 2013 Saturday Richmond UD Arena - HOME WIN Mar. 06, 2013 Wednesday St. Bonaventure UD Arena - HOME WIN Mar. 09, 2013 Saturday @ George Washington Smith Center - ROAD WIN Summary: Scheduled Games: 30 (17 Home, 3 Neutral Site, 10 Away) Non-conference Record: 11 - 3 Non-conference Losses (3): Baylor (Neutral), @ Alabama, @ Southern California. Atlantic 10 Record: 13 - 3 Atlantic 10 Home Record: 8 - 0 Atlantic 10 Road Record: 5 - 3 Atlantic 10 Conference Losses (3): @ Virginia Commonwealth, @ Saint Louis, @ Massachusetts. Atlantic 10 Home Wins (8): Butler, Fordham, Duquesne, Saint Joseph's, Temple, Xavier, Richmond, St. Bonaventure. Atlantic 10 Road Wins (5): @ La Salle, @ Xavier, @ Rhode Island, @ Charlotte, @ George Washington. Overall Record: 24 – 6 Muddy's Observations: (1) If Dayton played at Butler, St. Joseph's, Temple, or Richmond, I would have predicted those games as losses for the Flyers. (2) Dayton plays Butler, St. Joseph's, Temple, and Richmond at UD Arena. (3) The 'Curse of Jimmy Carter' should end on Wednesday, January 30, 2013. __________________ BIG EAST CONFERENCE IN 2014-15 Butler • Creighton • Dayton • DePaul • Georgetown • Marquette Providence • Seton Hall • St. John’s • Saint Louis • Villanova • Xavier

09-06-2012, 06:49 PM	#231 (permalink)
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09-06-2012, 07:03 PM	#232 (permalink)
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09-06-2012, 07:29 PM	#233 (permalink)
xavierhoops Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 864 Rep Power: 260320	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers z8 and Muddy are on fire tonight. Their predictions are pure comedy. P.S.- Muddy, that last post I think you've posted close to a dozen times already this week, and probably 100 since the end of last season. No one read it or clicked any of your links the first time, probably aren't doing it now. Save us all some scrolling... If UD does beat Xavier finally, at least it will be after Jan. 20. Carter, Reagan (2), Bush, Clinton (2), Bush (2), Obama, Romney. Sad, sad state of affairs in Flyer land. __________________ Chris Mack in 3 years at Xavier has had twice the NCAA wins (4) of the entire Dayton coaching staff in the modern era of NCAA basketball (2).

09-07-2012, 05:48 AM	#235 (permalink)
Knobby Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Western Mass Posts: 1,810 Rep Power: 247596	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Those predictions are a little ambitious even for you Muddy. I appreciate the loss at Umass, but undefeated at home - I don't think so.... You will struggle at LaSalle and St Joes at home should be a loss too. I can almost get on board with 11 wins considering you get most of the tough opponents at home, but you still haven't shaken the curse of Archie's predecessor (who's name I shall not repeat) so I will say........ Oh I don't know....... let's go with 8-8..... __________________ Well, we were smaller, but at least we were slower!

09-07-2012, 09:38 AM	#238 (permalink)
AdamtheFlyer Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,819 Rep Power: 157851	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Muddy actually has a point, Dayton's front court should be solid, and could be very good if Benson can be what he was before the injury. Kavanaugh is solid, I would expect growth from Gavrilovic and Oliver, and they add two impressive freshmen who should be able to give quality minutes. The backcourt will determine Dayton's level of success this year. Dillard is great, and I love what I hear about Sanford. Derenbecker and Oliver can give minutes at the 2. Khari Price is a total unknown. The talent is there, but depth isn't. Need to stay healthy. I feel pretty good about this team. Not going to predict 13-3. That would be like saying a 3 handicap is going to shoot 69, possible but very unlikely. But I see no reason why this team can't go 11-5 given reasonable health. __________________ Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

09-07-2012, 09:47 AM	#240 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,836 Rep Power: 37278	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers ^^^I'm seriously worried about the game in Cincy this year because you're right. XU was a lot better on the "pre season paper" last year then UD and we almost pulled it out in OT at Cincy. UD is without a doubt (if Davis and Reynolds aren't playing) better on paper then XU this preseason....we will lose by 17 down there.

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