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Old 11-14-2012, 06:31 AM   #436 (permalink)
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Flyers Leave Today for Charleston Clasic (David Jablonski, DDN - November 13, 2012)

Coach Archie Miller said Monday the lineup could change between Monday and Thursday, depending on how practices go. The Flyers leave this afternoon for Charleston and practice at 9 a.m. Wednesday at TD Arena. UD has sold at least 850 tickets for the tournament, and that’s more than double any other school, except the host, College of Charleston.
Dayton vs. Colorado Preview

Who: Dayton (1-0) vs. Colorado (1-0).

When: 12:30 p.m. today.

Where: TD Arena in Charleston, S.C.

TV/Radio: ESPN3/1290 WHIO.

What: First round of Charleston Classic.

Dayton Starters: Kevin Dillard, 6-0, Sr., G, 12.0 points per game; Josh Benson, 6-9, Sr., F, 14.0; Devin Oliver, 6-7, Jr., F, 8.0; Jalen Robinson, 6-9, Fr., C, 7.0; Vee Sanford, 6-3, Jr., G, 18.0.

Colorado Starters: Andre Robertson, 6-7, Jr., F, 7.0; Josh Scott, 6-10, Fr., F, 14.0; Askia Booker, 6-1, So., G, 13.0; Sabatino Chen, 6-4, Sr., G, 9.0; Spencer Dinwiddie, 6-6, So., G, 13.0.
About Dayton: Freshman guard Khari Price is cleared to play after missing the season-opening 81-63 victory over Arkansas State. He experienced concussion-like symptoms after a collision in practice last week. Flyers coach Archie Miller said that will give the team more depth on the perimeter, and they’ll need that with three games in four days. … Dayton is 12-9 all-time against Pac 12 teams, but it hasn’t played a Pac 12 team since it faced Arizona in 2000 in the Maui Invitational.

About Colorado: The defending Pac-12 Conference tournament champion Buffaloes beat Wofford 74-59 in their season opener Friday. They shot 44 percent from the field and 78 percent at the free-throw line (28-of-36). … Robertson was one of 50 players named to the preseason watch list for the John Wooden Award. He ranked third in the nation last season with 11.1 rebounds per game and was fifth in the nation with 20 double-doubles. … Colorado finished 24-12 a year ago and beat UNLV in their first game in the NCAA tournament before losing to Baylor.

Miller on Colorado: "They’re really a good team, extremely well coached, very disciplined. They don’t beat themselves. They make you work on both ends of the floor. The biggest thing for us will be our ability to stop them in transition. They really, really run the ball down your throat. They can put fouls on you in a hurry getting the ball inside. Dinwiddie, in particular, is lethal in transition. Down at the other end, it’s not going to be one pass, two pass, shot. You’re not going to have success against them early in the shot clock. You’re going to have to really work and play team ball."

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Big crowd advantage in this one. I bet CO wont have 100 fans and we'll have close to 1000. Big test though. I have no idea which way this game will go. I really want to win this first game though to get a shot at playing a ranked Baylor team.
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:45 PM   #438 (permalink)
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I predict the Buffs will still be celebrating their legalization of Weed and go quietly. On the other hand, They may be "hungry" for a win.
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Derenbecker is a guy who doesn't do anything great, but is above average in many areas. A 6'7" SF that can hit the three is a matchup nightmare in the A10.
Expectations should be to compete for an A10 title and make the NCAA. I think both are very doable.
So when will the big D play some decent minutes?
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Old 11-15-2012, 05:28 PM   #440 (permalink)
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Colorado 67, Dayton 57 (Charleston Classic - ESPN Box Score)


The Flyers played hard enough to win, but the shots wouldn't fall for them. Credit Colorado's outstanding defense.

Dayton shooting: 33.3 % FGs, 23.8 % 3-Pts., 71.4 % FTs

Colorado shooting: 44.2 % FGs, 43.8 % 3-Pts., 58.3 % FTs

Flyers Lose 67-57 to Colorado in Charleston (David Jablonski, DDN - November 15, 2012)


Early Foul Trouble Hurts Dillard in Loss (David Jablonski, DDN - November 15, 2012)


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There is a benefit in not watching a game until after you know the outcome. It's much easier to see why it happened without the emotions of the moment. Simply put, Colorado is a bad head to head match up for Dayton. They are bigger at pretty much every position. They are stronger, quicker, and longer. They played really, really good defense. Dayton couldn't break them down on the dribble, and the passing lanes were almost non-existent. They couldn't beat Colorado to the spot in order to draw fouls and get to the line. Dayton looked downright terrible on offense, and much of that credit has to go to Colorado playing damn good defense and forcing tough look after tough look. They simply won the game. Tip your cap.

I liked the rebounding for Dayton. I loved seeing Khari Price play very well for most of the first half. I love the fire, the refusal to quit. I really liked Dayton's defense. They shut down lanes and made Colorado beat them from outside. It's all you can do. If they hit big shots from deep, they hit big shots from deep. Colorado did. Again, tip your cap.

I didn't see any reason to be discouraged about the quality of team Dayton can be this year. Colorado is good. That doesn't mean Dayton is bad. Losing sucks, but overall I still like where Dayton is right now.
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Colorado really kicked up in the 2nd half. Tough defense after the break.
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Congrats to the Flyers, but this stings the Bonnies.

We've been on Dyshawn Pierre for a while and thought he was headed this way.

He'll be a very good A-10 player.
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I'd be really surprised if Dyshawn Pierre isn't starting by his sophomore year.

He may sneak into the starting rotation as a freshman at times. The kid is a player.
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Freshman Dyshawn Pierre earns a spot in the Flyers' starting line-up.
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Dayton 87, Boston College 71 (Charleston Classic - ESPN Box Score)


Freshman Dyshawn Pierre: 23 points and 2 rebounds.

Junior Devin Oliver: 17 points and 8 rebounds.

Freshman Jalen Robinson: 15 points and 6 rebounds.

Senior Kevin Dillard: 14 points and 2 assists.

Junior Vee Sanford: 10 points and 8 assists.

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Dyshawn Pierre's line: 8-8 FGs, 5-5 3-pointers, and 2-2 FTs. 3 assists and 0 turnovers.
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I would say the Pierre as a starter experiment worked out. He didn't miss a single shot all day.

UD Freshman Pierre on Fire in Victory (David Jablonski, DDN - November 16, 2012)



Freshman forward Dyshawn Pierre


CHARLESTON, S.C. — A Charlotte Bobcats scout on press row watched Dayton’s Dyshawn Pierre drain another 3-pointer and remarked to the writer sitting next to him, "He’s a big player."

That was only halfway through one of the greatest freshman performances by a Flyer in recent memory and one of the greatest shooting efforts by a Flyer, period. In his first college start, the Canadian hit all eight of his shot attempts, including five 3-pointers.

Pierre finished with 23 points, carrying Dayton to an 87-71 victory Friday over Boston College in the consolation round of the Charleston Classic at TD Arena.

Miller: Freshmen Key to UD’s Success (David Jablonski, DDN - November 16, 2012)
CHARLESTON, S.C. — Freshmen Dyshawn Pierre and Jalen Robinson scored 20 of Dayton’s first 33 points on Friday. They combined for 38 points in an 87-71 victory over Boston College in the consolation round of the Charleston Classic.

That’s a good sign for coach Archie Miller, whose team improved to 2-1.

"Our freshman class is really important to our success," Miller said.

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We are a better team with Oliver at the 4. Last season, when he started playing well, it was at the 4. The problem created is that we suddenly become small moving benson to 5. But with the way Pierre played, no way he doesn't continue to start.

IMO, Archie will build a team that plays 2 small forward types instead of 2 bigs. Preferably, we will have one who is a little bigger to bang with an opposing 4. Even looking at our roster makeup - next year we will have Oliver, Pierre, serenbecker, and pollard who fit this description.
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Even looking at our roster makeup - next year we will have Oliver, Pierre, Derenbecker, and Pollard who fit this description.
Or, Archie could go with Alex Gavrilovic (who has not yet fully recovered from the effects of his recent mononucleosis) at center and Jalen Robinson at PF against 'beefier' opponents, but I'm not going to speculate on what Archie will do next season, or even the Flyers' next game on Sunday.

In any event, Archie has a lot of flexibility in his line-ups - both this season and next.

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Dayton Flyers 2013-14 Roster

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    Player            Class      Pos.  Height  Weight    Hometown
      
 1. Alex Gavrilovic   Junior      C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  Strasbourg, France
 2. Devon Scott       Sophomore  PF/C  6'-9"   215 lbs.  Columbus, OH

 3. Jalen Robinson    Sophomore  PF/C  6'-9"   235 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 4. Devin Oliver      Senior     PF/C  6'-7"   225 lbs.  Kalamazoo, MI

 5. Matt Derenbecker  RS Junior  SF    6'-7"   215 lbs.  Metairie, LA
 6. Dyshawn Pierre    Sophomore  SF    6'-6"   210 lbs.  Whitby, Ontario 
 7. Kendall Pollard   Freshman   SF    6'-6"   185 lbs.  Chicago  

 8. Jordan Sibert     RS Junior  SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  Cincinnati, OH 
 9. Vee Sanford       RS Senior  SG    6'-3"   192 lbs.  Lexington, KY  

10. Dayshon Smith     Freshman   CG    6'-2"   170 lbs.  New York City  
11. Kyle Davis        Freshman   CG    6'-1"   165 lbs.  Chicago  

12. Khari Price       Sophomore  PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  Slidell, LA

Scholarships presently available for a Spring 2014 signee = 1.
Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Sortable Stats (Yahoo!)

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Agreed, he has a ton of flexibility, which is awesome. I just think yesterday's lineup spread the floor well. Didn't hurt we made a lot of shots.
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I think Devin Oliver played his best game as a Flyer yesterday. Offensively, defensively, on the glass...he was great. I've said all along he was the biggest key for this team. When he plays well, Dayton is going to be a tough out for anyone.

Can't say enough about Dyshawn Pierre. It's basically impossible to be better than he was yesterday. Jalen Robinson will get a bit overlooked because of Pierre, but he was damn good, too.

BC is not a good team at all, so really hammering them is hopefully a good sign. It looks like my initial observation was correct, game 1 was about Colorado more than Dayton. Really impressed with the Buffs. Talented team and Tad Boyle is a heck of a coach.

Auburn is a lot like BC...terrible. Dayton needs to, and should, beat them.
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I think Devin Oliver played his best game as a Flyer yesterday. Offensively, defensively, on the glass...he was great. I've said all along he was the biggest key for this team. When he plays well, Dayton is going to be a tough out for anyone.

Can't say enough about Dyshawn Pierre. It's basically impossible to be better than he was yesterday. Jalen Robinson will get a bit overlooked because of Pierre, but he was damn good, too.

BC is not a good team at all, so really hammering them is hopefully a good sign. It looks like my initial observation was correct, game 1 was about Colorado more than Dayton. Really impressed with the Buffs. Talented team and Tad Boyle is a heck of a coach.

Auburn is a lot like BC...terrible. Dayton needs to, and should, beat them.
I was surprised to see Auburn get by CoC. Very disappointing tournament for hosting Charleston.
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I was surprised to see Auburn get by CoC. Very disappointing tournament for hosting Charleston.
C of C is coached by Doug Wojcik (an Izzo disciple) now, who is a poor man's Brian Gregory. But even to be fair to him, he's trying to implement the Izzo style with a Bobby Cremins roster. Auburn, as bad as they are, still recruits bigger and better athletes than C of C. Without a kid like Goudelock a couple years ago, they will struggle to compete with any big conference school.

I'm glad Auburn won. They are bad, but it's because of skill. Athletically they will be similar to an A10 school. I think a team trying to gel and find their identity will get more out of playing Auburn. Hopefully they play like they should and win by 10-15.
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Dayton (-6.5) plays Auburn (Charleston Classic - 5th place game) at 2 pm ESPN3

Preview: Dayton vs. Auburn (David Jablonski, DDN - November 18, 2012)
Dayton vs. Auburn

Who: Dayton (2-1) vs. Auburn (2-1).

When: 2:00 p.m. today.

Where: TD Arena in Charleston, S.C.

What: Fifth-place game of Charleston Classic.

TV/Radio: ESPN3/1290 WHIO.

What: First round of Charleston Classic.

Dayton Starters: Kevin Dillard, 6-0, Sr., G, 12.0 points per game; Josh Benson, 6-9, Sr., F, 10.7; Devin Oliver, 6-7, Jr., F, 9.0; Dyshawn Pierre, 6-6, Fr., F, 16.0; Vee Sanford, 6-3, Jr., G, 13.7.

Auburn Starters: Allen Payne, 6-6, Jr., F, 9.0; Rob Chubb, 6-10, Sr., C, 11.0; Frankie Sullivan, 6-1, Sr., G, 16.5; Shaquille Johnson, 6-5, Fr., G, 3.5; Jordan Price, 6-5, Fr., G, 6.0.
About Dayton: The Flyers are 3-0 all-time against Auburn, winning 85-71 in 1969 at the Sugar Bowl Tournament, 106-63 at UD Arena 1972 and 60-59 in overtime in 2008 at the Chicago Invitational Challenge. Dayton is 16-14 all-time against the Southeastern Conference… Although today marks the end of the Charleston Classic, Flyer fans can look forward to an even longer trip next season. UD returns to the Maui Invitational in 2013 for the first time since they won the event in 2003.

About Auburn: The Tigers lost 79-59 to Murray State in the first game of the tournament and beat the host school, College of Charleston, 55-51 on Friday. Sullivan scored 20 of his 24 points in the second half. … Auburn was 15-16 last season. … Payne is a graduate of Winton Woods High School in Cincinnati.

Other Tournament Games: Boston College and Charleston, both 0-2 in the tournament, play at noon. Baylor and St. John’s play the third-place game at 6 p.m. on ESPNU. Colorado and Murray State play in the championship game at 8:30 p.m. on ESPN2.

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