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A10fan2 · 11-28-2012, 06:20 PM

Cause for concern?

Weber had zero D1 wins and previous losses to 300+ teams. I'd post a million links but I think you get the picture.

ItsyBitsySpiderII · 11-28-2012, 06:33 PM

I will wait for Muddy's revised RPi rankings before weighing in

njlsufan · 11-28-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ItsyBitsySpiderII

I will wait for Muddy's revised RPi rankings before weighing in

I'm just bummed that Muddy's "suck factor" thread was closed.

Knobby · 11-28-2012, 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njlsufan

I'm just bummed that Muddy's "suck factor" thread was closed.

Right!

Muddy Waters · 11-29-2012, 04:09 AM

Weber State 62, Dayton 61 (ESPN Box Score)

The Flyers missed 36 FG attempts (about half of them from under the basket), were out-rebounded 32-28, and shot 2-8 from downtown while Weber State’ made 8-17 from 3-point range. Poor effort and poor result.

Dayton Flyers homepage (Dayton Daily News)

This game received a lot more coverage than normal in the local newspaper.

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters yesterday

For those of you interested, I posted yesterday’s RPI Rankings for three reasons:

(1) To provide an early-season snapshot of the RPI Rankings for Atlantic 10 teams as a 'starting point' which can later be compared to future RPI Rankings.

(2) In order to demonstrate this early-season volatility of the RPI Rankings. I deliberately chose yesterday’s RPI Rankings as my first data point because no Atlantic 10 team played a Division I opponent yesterday. Therefore, this morning’s RPI Rankings show the changes in the RPI Rankings caused by a relatively small number of games played last night by teams that are not in the Atlantic 10. Note that there are 347 Division I teams this season.

(3) To provide a snapshot of Dayton’s RPI Ranking before the Flyers play RPI # 347 Weber State, RPI # 304 Northern Illinois, and at RPI # 24 Alabama (in order to demonstrate the effects of opponents' RPI Rankings on Dayton's RPI Ranking early in the season).

Atlantic 10 RPI Rankings - Updated November 28, 2012

Code:

  8 - Butler 
 22 - Saint Louis 
 26 - Dayton
 45 - Virginia Commonwealth 
 47 - Temple 
 51 - Charlotte 
 64 - St. Bonaventure
 66 - St. Joseph's 
 72 - Xavier
 87 - Massachusetts   
139 - La Salle 
149 - Richmond 
159 - Rhode Island 
199 - Duquesne 
294 - Geo. Washington 
320 - Fordham

347 - Weber State

Atlantic 10 RPI Rankings - Updated November 29, 2012

Code:

  7 – Butler 
 54 - Virginia Commonwealth
 57 - Saint Louis 
 59 - Xavier
 62 - St. Joseph's
 64 - St. Bonaventure
 73 - Massachusetts
 75 - Charlotte 
 89 - Temple
107 - Richmond
119 - Dayton  
152 - La Salle
195 - Rhode Island 
204 - Duquesne 
254 - Geo. Washington 
314 - Fordham

149 - Weber State

Dayton dropped 93 places and Weber State moved up 198 places.

I’ll post the RPI Rankings again on January 1, 2013.

In the meantime, you can check on the RPI Rankings by clicking on RPI in my signature line below.

REF · 11-29-2012, 04:57 AM

With Dayton's inevitable RIP, i guess we'll go from daily RPI updates to monthly RPI updates.

paulxu · 11-29-2012, 05:05 AM

If there are 347 Division 1 teams, and you play the team at home with an RPI of 347 and lose...your RPI is going to take a hit.
All A10 teams need to win as many OOC games as they can to help our league.

MudFlap · 11-29-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AdamtheFlyer

I like what I see.

Good for you.

tman · 11-29-2012, 07:31 AM

Same ole crap we've seen from this program (dayton) for years. Hire a man who has NO experience as a head coach. Schedule a dozen dull azz home games that doesn't help the basketball program that no one cares to watch ,,,poor all the money into the non-revenue making sports---and wait for your call from the Big East..

Rinse/repeat

xavierhoops · 11-29-2012, 07:46 AM

Let me get this straight... UD loses to the worst (yes the WORST) team in Division I NCAA basketball AT HOME??? RPI of #347.

Looks like it's going to be another underachieving, irrelevant year in Dayton (except when they host the first 4 games of the NCAA tourney!!)

In the words of Flyer75, where are all of the UD fans??? At least bprichard showed up.

Title_BU · 11-29-2012, 08:22 AM

Where are these RPI numbers coming from? Its utterly irrelevant for another 2 months, but I use StatSheet.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/rankings/RPI

xavierhoops · 11-29-2012, 09:25 AM

RPI is irrelevant right now. Regardless, if you think you're an NCAA tourney contender, losing at home to the team that is in last place in RPI at any point in the season is horrible.

Thankfully, with this loss Muddy has announced he will not post anymore RPI updates until Jan. 1 at the earliest.

njlsufan · 11-29-2012, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters;

[B

I’ll post the RPI Rankings again on January 1, 2013.[/B]

In the meantime, you can check on the RPI Rankings by clicking on RPI in my signature line below.

Let me translate this for those that do not speak Muddyese:

It goes something like this...Since posting RPI numbers no longer support my agenda of slamming Xavier every chance I get (i.e. X now has a much higher RPI than my beloved Flyers), I won't post it again until January 1, 2013. I am hoping against hope that by then, Dayton's numbers will be better than X's. If not, the RPI postings will be deep sixed until next season. Instead, I'll have to think of another way I can attack Xavier. Maybe I'll fall back on the old "in aggregate, over 3 games, Dayton scored more points argument."

REF · 11-29-2012, 10:21 AM

Hilarious and on cue - absolutely predictable.

I wouldn't write this Dayton team off just yet though.

xu1990 · 11-29-2012, 10:22 AM

Those of you who check my record will note I am not a UD basher (with rare exceptions for a shot at one pretty annoying poster). So in all seriousness, how panicked does the program get over this loss. Weber State is bad. Fairliegh Dickenson bad. I think Archie is a good guy and am sure a knowledgable coach, but for a program that would like to be, lets say top 50, can't have too many home loses to the Buffalos and Weber States of the world.

How much leash does Archie have. 4 or 5 years of no tournament? less?

11-28-2012, 06:33 PM	#482 (permalink)
ItsyBitsySpiderII 6th Man Join Date: Nov 2004 Age: 38 Posts: 494 Rep Power: 2788	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers I will wait for Muddy's revised RPi rankings before weighing in

11-29-2012, 04:57 AM	#486 (permalink)
REF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,048 Rep Power: 7187	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers With Dayton's inevitable RIP, i guess we'll go from daily RPI updates to monthly RPI updates.

11-29-2012, 05:05 AM	#487 (permalink)
paulxu Veteran Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,409 Rep Power: 309022	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers If there are 347 Division 1 teams, and you play the team at home with an RPI of 347 and lose...your RPI is going to take a hit. All A10 teams need to win as many OOC games as they can to help our league. __________________ *...he went up late, and I was already up there.*

11-29-2012, 07:31 AM	#489 (permalink)
tman Player Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 759 Rep Power: 0	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Same ole crap we've seen from this program (dayton) for years. Hire a man who has NO experience as a head coach. Schedule a dozen dull azz home games that doesn't help the basketball program that no one cares to watch ,,,poor all the money into the non-revenue making sports---and wait for your call from the Big East.. Rinse/repeat Last edited by tman; 11-29-2012 at 11:29 AM.

11-29-2012, 07:46 AM	#490 (permalink)
xavierhoops Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 889 Rep Power: 262014	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Let me get this straight... UD loses to the worst (yes the WORST) team in Division I NCAA basketball AT HOME??? RPI of #347. Looks like it's going to be another underachieving, irrelevant year in Dayton (except when they host the first 4 games of the NCAA tourney!!) In the words of Flyer75, where are all of the UD fans??? At least bprichard showed up. __________________ Chris Mack in 3 years at Xavier has had twice the NCAA wins (4) of the entire Dayton coaching staff in the modern era of NCAA basketball (2).

11-29-2012, 08:22 AM	#491 (permalink)
Title_BU 6th Man Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 335 Rep Power: 7011	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Where are these RPI numbers coming from? Its utterly irrelevant for another 2 months, but I use StatSheet. http://statsheet.com/mcb/rankings/RPI

11-29-2012, 09:25 AM	#492 (permalink)
xavierhoops Player Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 889 Rep Power: 262014	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers RPI is irrelevant right now. Regardless, if you think you're an NCAA tourney contender, losing at home to the team that is in last place in RPI at any point in the season is horrible. Thankfully, with this loss Muddy has announced he will not post anymore RPI updates until Jan. 1 at the earliest. __________________ Chris Mack in 3 years at Xavier has had twice the NCAA wins (4) of the entire Dayton coaching staff in the modern era of NCAA basketball (2).

11-29-2012, 10:21 AM	#494 (permalink)
REF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,048 Rep Power: 7187	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Hilarious and on cue - absolutely predictable. I wouldn't write this Dayton team off just yet though.

11-29-2012, 10:22 AM	#495 (permalink)
xu1990 6th Man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 483 Rep Power: 142932	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Those of you who check my record will note I am not a UD basher (with rare exceptions for a shot at one pretty annoying poster). So in all seriousness, how panicked does the program get over this loss. Weber State is bad. Fairliegh Dickenson bad. I think Archie is a good guy and am sure a knowledgable coach, but for a program that would like to be, lets say top 50, can't have too many home loses to the Buffalos and Weber States of the world. How much leash does Archie have. 4 or 5 years of no tournament? less? __________________ 4 out of 5 sweet sixteen's : Kansas, Michigan State, North Carolina and Xavier. 8 schools have made last 7 NCAAs: Duke, Gonzaga, Kansas, Marquette, Michigan State, Texas, Wisconsin and Xavier.

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