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Old 12-08-2012, 12:00 PM   #556 (permalink)
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Elivs thinks Muddy posting Vandebilt-Marist scores and links adds substance to the board. That's a unique perspective.

I trust you'd also be of the opinion if I posted links (multiple times) of Weber St and whoever the hell they lost to that earned them an RPI of #347 when they beat UD at home, that I would also be adding substance to the board.

Elivs, honestly I think you may be THE ONLY person that posts here that believes Muddy "adds substance" or that you are "interested in most of what he posts." You do understand "most" (and by that I mean 98%) of what he posts is about Xavier and is usually delusions, lies, misconceptions, outdated or totally irrelevant information. But the resident UD moderator, is interested in this, enjoys it and believes Muddy adds substance?? Haha
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:12 PM   #557 (permalink)
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I, for one, enjoy reading Muddy's posts. They usually are very informative.
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Old 12-08-2012, 01:32 PM   #558 (permalink)
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Indeed.
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Old 12-08-2012, 07:29 PM   #559 (permalink)
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Elivs thinks Muddy posting Vandebilt-Marist scores and links adds substance to the board. That's a unique perspective.

I trust you'd also be of the opinion if I posted links (multiple times) of Weber St and whoever the hell they lost to that earned them an RPI of #347 when they beat UD at home, that I would also be adding substance to the board.

Elivs, honestly I think you may be THE ONLY person that posts here that believes Muddy "adds substance" or that you are "interested in most of what he posts." You do understand "most" (and by that I mean 98%) of what he posts is about Xavier and is usually delusions, lies, misconceptions, outdated or totally irrelevant information. But the resident UD moderator, is interested in this, enjoys it and believes Muddy adds substance?? Haha
I'm always interested in how our opponents are doing on the year, as it does affect our RPI. I hope that Weber State turns out decent. I'll bet that there are some X fans who care how Vanderbilt does this year.
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Old 12-08-2012, 08:13 PM   #560 (permalink)
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Not your older brother's Miami team. They come out chucking. I think they had fewer passes in the entire first half than Charlie Coles coached teams would have by the first TV timeout.

Devin Oliver is becoming a special player for Dayton. 15 points, 11 boards, 6 assists. That is some kind of stat line.
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Kevin Dillard wins the ESPN.com National Player of the Week. Well done, KD.


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Good thing they made that call before Brandon Paul and Illinois smoked #10 Gonzaga at Gonzaga. Kid was unconscious.

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I thought the exact same thing.


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It's amazing the impact a good transfer can have for a team.
Congrats to Kevin Dillard on the recognition.
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Dayton missed NCAA tournaments because they underachieved in CONFERENCE games - teams they wouldn't be playing anymore.
In the last 5 years, Dayton has missed out on 2 NCAA Tournaments - likey due to season-ending injuries to key players.

Last season, the Flyers leading rebounder and best frontcourt player Josh Benson was lost for the season on December 30, 2011.

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Here's a final look at the RPI Rankings and SOS Rankings before the Atlantic 10 Conference games begin tonight:


UDPride RPI Rankings - Wednesday, January 4, 2012

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RPI                              SOS    SOS Rank
Rank  Team              ( W-L)   Rank   in A10 

 26   Temple            ( 9-3)    60       4
 35   Dayton            (10-4)    13       1
 42   St. Joseph's      (10-4)    56       3
    
 54   Xavier            ( 9-4)    30       2
 57   Saint Louis       (11-2)   208      12
 75   Massachusetts     (11-3)   187      10
 86   St. Bonaventure   ( 7-5)    91       7
 90   Duquesne          ( 8-5)    86       6

110   Richmond          ( 9-6)   147       9
121   Charlotte         ( 7-5)   195      11
130   La Salle          (10-4)   310      14
176   Fordham           ( 7-6)   242      13

206   Geo. Washington   ( 5-8)   120       8
239   Rhode Island      (3-12)    70       5
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In early January 2008, forward Chris Wright was lost for the season with a broken ankle and forward Charles Little was lost for six weeks with a broken foot.
Dayton Hands AP #6 Pittsburgh First Loss of Season (DaytonFlyers - December 29, 2007)


AP #14 Dayton to Host UMass on Wednesday at 7 PM (DaytonFlyers -January 15, 2008)


Little Out 4-6 Weeks With Broken Bone In His Foot (DaytonFlyers - January 18, 2008)
University of Dayton junior forward Charles Little has a fracture in one of the sesamoid bones in his right foot, it was announced today. The injury, which occurred during Wednesday's game with Massachusetts, does not require surgery and Little will be out four-to-six weeks.

Little is the second Flyer forward to be sidelined recently.

Freshman Chris Wright had surgery Monday to stabilize a fractured bone in his right ankle.

Dayton, 14-2 and 2-1 in the A-10, is ranked 14th in the latest Associated Press poll.
So yes, the Flyers underachieved, but it was due to the injuries of key players at the beginning of A10 conference play. These unlucky injuries quite likely kept the Flyers out of the 2008 and 2012 NCAA Tournaments.

Related post on BE7 conference expansion.


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Old 12-13-2012, 04:17 PM   #567 (permalink)
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Ahhhhh. Gotcha. Josh Benson (11 ppg, 5 rpg in 26 mpg) was the difference between the NIT and an at-large birth.
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Cheesesteaks, hookers and "bus lag" were also cited. "Palpable pressure" was a big factor as well.
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Old 12-13-2012, 04:28 PM   #569 (permalink)
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Don't forget about Sammy Smith being kidnapped.
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Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers

While Muddy has legitimate points, we haven't had injuries every year. Our former coach was terrible against teams that were familiar with him. Bottom line. But Bill, is it ridiculous to say someone who scored 11 and 5 and was easily the best frontcourt player and defender was part of the reason we missed an at large? We were a Kav 3-footer away from beating X in the A10 tourney and very possibly getting an at large bid. We weren't that far off. I absolutely think losing Benson hurt. Your team beat us when we were missing Benson and Chris Johnson too.
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