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Old 01-24-2013, 12:26 PM   #676 (permalink)
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yet X fans pop out and feel the need to take a swipe at UD and/or Muddy.

I think the point stands, the issues with this board do not soley sit in Muddy's corner, there's plenty of blame to go around.
So, Muddy is gone for weeks and it is agreed the discussion here is pretty good. He comes back for one day, discussion is "derailed." Yet, the issues don't sit solely in Muddy's corner. Gotcha.

Also, I don't know of any X fans that took swipes at UD in this thread?
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Old 01-24-2013, 12:31 PM   #677 (permalink)
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Just know how ridiculous it is to say Muddy is the only problem. That's my point.
You said discussion was really good on this board while Muddy was banned for the last few weeks.

You say he comes back for one day and discussion is derailed.

Yet you conclude he isn't the only problem.

I'm a smart guy, but I'll need some help with that logic.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:20 PM   #678 (permalink)
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So, Muddy is gone for weeks and it is agreed the discussion here is pretty good. He comes back for one day, discussion is "derailed." Yet, the issues don't sit solely in Muddy's corner. Gotcha.

Also, I don't know of any X fans that took swipes at UD in this thread?
Well thanks for letting me know that you just want to be an ass, wasn't exactly clear before; guess I should just move along then.
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Old 01-24-2013, 01:35 PM   #679 (permalink)
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OVERALL STATS: 3-Point Shooting Percentage (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton           .392 
 2. Richmond         .380 
 3. St. Bonaventure  .377 
 4. Butler           .354 
 5. Saint Louis      .354 
 6. VCU              .352 
 7. Xavier           .349 
 8. La Salle         .345 
 9. Saint Joseph's   .339 
10. Rhode Island     .332 
11. Duquesne         .325 
12. Fordham          .323 
13. Massachusetts    .313 
14. Temple           .309 
15. Geo. Washington  .299 
16. Charlotte        .266

CONFERENCE-ONLY STATS: 3-Point Shooting Percentage (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton           .500 
 2. St. Bonaventure  .423 
 3. Butler           .407 
 4. Geo. Washington  .385 
 5. Xavier           .364 
 6. Rhode Island     .343 
 7. Saint Joseph's   .340 
 8. Fordham          .339 
 9. Duquesne         .325 
10. Massachusetts    .313 
11. Richmond         .310 
12. Temple           .305 
13. Saint Louis      .300 
14. VCU              .290 
15. La Salle         .221 
16. Charlotte        .221
More good news for the Flyer Faithful:


CONFERENCE-ONLY STATS: Rebounding Margin (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton          +12.2 
 2. Xavier           +7.8 
 3. Fordham          +7.0 
 4. Butler           +6.2
 
 5. Geo. Washington  +2.2 
 6. Saint Louis      +2.0 
 7. Charlotte        +1.8 
 8. Saint Joseph's   +1.0 
 8. VCU              +1.0 
10. Rhode Island     -2.5
 
11. Massachusetts    -3.2 
12. La Salle         -3.8 
13. Duquesne         -4.4 
14. Temple           -5.0 
15. St. Bonaventure  -7.8 
16. Richmond        -13.5
Daytonís Rebounding Margin edge over Xavier may be even bigger than it appears:


Daytonís Opponents to Date:
Code:
 3. Fordham          +7.0 
 4. Butler           +6.2 
 8. VCU              +1.0
 
12. La Salle         -3.8
Xavierís Opponents to Date:
Code:
 5. Geo. Washington  +2.2 
 7. Charlotte        +1.8 
 
12. La Salle         -3.8 
14. Temple           -5.0 
15. St. Bonaventure  -7.8
Dayton has already played Fordham and Butler, while Xavier has run up their tally against the likes of La Salle, Temple, and St. Bonaventure without facing any of the Top 4 Rebounding Margin teams.

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Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers

We get it. You rolled up the score on Fordham with uncontested 3 pointers and Gaston home in the Bronx. Happy Day.
Oh, and how did that Butler game go?

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Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers

Adam, Is it OK to reply now that Muddie has brought Xavier into his post? And can we now point out the delusion of said post? I just want to make sure that I have your permission.
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In other much less important news, Fordham and Dayton have the same record in the A-10. 1-3.
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But yeah, let's keep pretending Muddy is the only issue on the board.
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Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers

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Adam, Is it OK to reply now that Muddie has brought Xavier into his post? And can we now point out the delusion of said post? I just want to make sure that I have your permission.
I'm not Adam, but yes, it is. Muddy we can talk about 3 point field goal percentage and rebounding margin all we want, but these guys are right that its the standings that matter. And, as of now, we are toward the bottom.

But, I fully expect that to change. If my other posts haven't shown it, I am optimistic about this team. I think Dayton is one of the most talented teams in the league, and are starting to put it together. They ran into a buzzsaw at VCU, played poor defense against a Butler team that shot the lights out (Andrew Smith with a dagger 3), and inflicted themselves against LaSalle. But teams are going to lose games this year in league play. The winner will probably have 3 losses.

UD could possibly tie X in the loss column by winning next Wednesday's showdown. Of course, that won't happen. But anyway, while it seems like we are far behind, we aren't that far behind. And we are only going to get better.
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I think the main point here is that people do not have any obligation to reply to things that Muddy says. The only conclusion that can possibly be drawn here is that people enjoy responding to them.
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Astute observation, bprichard.

Back to topic ==> 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers

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CONFERENCE-ONLY STATS: Rebounding Margin (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton          +12.2 
 2. Xavier           +7.8 
 3. Fordham          +7.0 
 4. Butler           +6.2
 
 5. Geo. Washington  +2.2 
 6. Saint Louis      +2.0 
 7. Charlotte        +1.8 
 8. Saint Joseph's   +1.0 
 8. VCU              +1.0 
10. Rhode Island     -2.5
 
11. Massachusetts    -3.2 
12. La Salle         -3.8 
13. Duquesne         -4.4 
14. Temple           -5.0 
15. St. Bonaventure  -7.8 
16. Richmond        -13.5
The Flyers are getting the job done at both ends of the floor:


CONFERENCE-ONLY STATS: Defensive Rebounding Percentage (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton           .787 
 2. Saint Louis      .736 
 3. Xavier           .736 
 4. Butler           .704 
 5. Geo. Washington  .699 
 6. Temple           .698 
 7. Fordham          .685
CONFERENCE-ONLY STATS: Offensive Rebounding Percentage (Atlantic 10 - January 24, 2013)
Code:
 1. Dayton           .420  
 2. Fordham          .391 
 3. Xavier           .384 
 4. VCU              .377 
 5. Geo. Washington  .348 
 6. Butler           .345 
 7. La Salle         .340
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We actually enjoy it more when he isn't around.


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Dayton’s Rebounding Margin edge over Xavier may be even bigger than it appears:
Muddy summons us to get back on topic ==> the 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers... yet the following sentence is in the very same post!

Yet another sad day (one of many in Flyerland) when they have to resort to who has the bigger rebounding edge.

Muddy and friends- Xavier's record (you know, the thing that keeps track of how many gamesa team actually won and lost) may have an even bigger edge over Dayton than it appears.

Xavier's A-10 record: 4-1 Wins over Temple, La Salle, St Bona and George Washington
Dayton's A-10 record: 1-3 Win over Fordham (without their best player)


Xavier vs Top 25: 1-1
Dayton vs Top 25: 0-2

Xavier vs Top 50: 2-2
Dayton vs Top 50: 1-4

Xavier vs Top 100: 3-3
Dayton vs Top 100: 2-4

Xavier vs Top 200: 6-3
Dayton vs Top 200: 4-3


And all this in the first year of a multi-year rough patch for X and a year UD should have made the tourney with Dillard being a senior and all their "lucky" transfers.

Hey, at least the Flyers can hold on to that rebounding margin.

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The Flyers are getting the job done at both ends of the floor:
Dayton is 1-3. Dayton's only win came against Fordham at home without Fordham's best player.

Dayton has 3 losses in conference. Xavier has played 2 of those teams (Butler and La Salle) and beat both of them by wide margins.
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