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Flyer75 · 03-18-2012, 07:54 AM

Time to put the other thread to bed...turn to next season. Article in DDN today about building around Dillard next season. He's coming off a 13.3 and 6.0 season and looks to be the number #1 or #2 (Chaz Williams being the other) PG in the league next year.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...r-1345668.html

“Kevin Dillard, with a great offseason, will be able to hold his own against any guard in the country next year,” Miller said.

And the Flyers, who exceeded expectations by going 20-13 and reaching the postseason for the fifth straight year, likely will be able to surround him with an even better supporting cast.

Center Matt Kavanaugh, though limited defensively, had a breakout junior season. He averaged 9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds and was the only player in the league in the top 10 in field-goal percentage (54.6) and foul shooting (80.7).

Sophomore wing Devin Oliver averaged 9.6 points and 7.4 rebounds in a seven-game stint as a starter at the end of the season. And junior forward Josh Benson, who suffered a season-ending knee injury Dec. 30, averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 boards before being sidelined and is expected to make a full recovery.

“Vee to me is the most talented, gifted scorer on our team,” Miller said. “One of the things I look forward to is Vee making plays for others and himself where Kevin isn’t involved with every play. ... Both Matt and Vee both bring us an added dimension in scoring.

The Flyers finished 9-7 in the A-10 even without Benson, ending up in a tie for fifth. In six previous seasons, they produced a winning league record just once, and their average finish in that span was seventh.

“I thought our kids did an amazing job being coachable,” Miller said. “And I think we did have a really good year. It could have gone in a lot of different directions at different times.

“When we lost Josh ... that was a make-or-break deal for our team. I give them credit for their character level, and I thought our staff did a nice job to continue to morph our team in different ways to be successful.”

Flyer75 · 03-18-2012, 07:59 AM

Article on the three players with signed LOI for next year: Robinson, Scott, and Thomas.

http://m.daytondailynews.com/dayton/...l=true#display

Thomas, a 5-foot-11 New York City native who plays at Quality Education Academy in North Carolina, has averaged 16 points and 12 assists per game while leading his team to a 22-6 record against top national competition.

Robinson and Scott are 6-foot-8 Columbus Northland teammates who have had snippets of their above-the-rim play posted on the Internet. Robinson was a finalist for the Ohio Mr. Basketball Award after averaging 19 points, 11 rebounds and three blocks, while Scott averaged 17.5 points and 11.5 boards."

IMO, the nice thing about all 3 is that none will have to start. All are backups this year that provide much needed depth to our woeful bench of this past season. All 3 should contribute though, especially one (not sure which yet) of the Northland players and Thomas who will backup Dillard.

FlyersandTEA4LIFE · 03-18-2012, 08:33 AM

Ud easily has the most talent in the league next year and will win the a10 by three games.

They will.sweep x.next year.

They will be a 2-3 seed in the ncaa tourney en route to an elite 8/final 4

FLYERFORGINGRICH · 03-18-2012, 09:50 AM

Indeed. EGGS will get a road game in the CBI if lucky. UD is going to run this league for years to come, while Christina Mackey drives EGGS into the Ohio River.

z8-Minutemen · 03-18-2012, 10:28 AM

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FLYERFORGINGRICH · 03-18-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by z8-Minutemen

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That is true 80% of the time.

AdamtheFlyer · 03-18-2012, 12:26 PM

I think Vee Sanford will make an immediate major impact. From everything I hear, the guy just gets buckets. There's a very real chance UD will have the best starting backcourt in the A10 next year. Derenbecker is a guy who doesn't do anything great, but is above average in many areas. A 6'7" SF that can hit the three is a matchup nightmare in the A10. I like having a true PG to back up Dillard, taking pressure off of him.

Devin Oliver grew so much as a player over the season. With a good summer, he can take another major leap forward. To me, he is the major key going into next year. If he puts the work in on his jumper and ball handling, this is a team that could have as many as 6 guys capable of scoring 20 in a given night. That is something UD hasn't had in a long time. They would be a scouting nightmare.

Knee injuries aren't all that scary anymore, so I'm not worried about Benson. He'll be ready to go. With him, Kavanaugh and Gavrilovic you return essentially 24 points and 14 boards a game inside, and add two good freshmen for depth. That's not even accounting for the possibility that one or both freshman are ready to contribute more than the typical freshman, or growth from the returning players.

I like the construction of the roster, and a player or two may still be added. The strengths are still to be determined beyond Dillard, but I don't see any glaring weaknesses. Way too early for specific predictions, but I feel good. Expectations should be to compete for an A10 title and make the NCAA. I think both are very doable.

Muddy Waters · 03-18-2012, 01:00 PM

AP All-Ohio Division I Boys Basketball Honors (Cleveland Plain Dealer - March 19, 2012)

COLUMBUS, Ohio – The 2011-2012 Associated Press Division I boys All-Ohio high school basketball teams, based on the recommendations of a state media panel:

FIRST TEAM

Jalen Robinson, Columbus Northland, 6-8, sr., 19.1; Josh Lemons, Cincinnati La Salle, 5-11, sr., 18.0; Marc Loving, Toledo St. John's, 6-8, jr., 22.9; Justin Fritts, Mentor, 6-2, sr., 28.1; David Walker, Stow, 6-7, sr., 25.6

PLAYERS OF THE YEAR: Jalen Robinson, Columbus Northland; Marc Loving, Toledo St. John's; Justin Fritts, Mentor.

SECOND TEAM

Caris LeVert, Pickerington Central, 6-4, sr., 18.4; Nigel Hayes, Toledo Whitmer, 6-7, jr., 13.8; Myles Hamilton, St. Edward, 6-1, sr., 16.1; Devaugntah Williams, Canton McKinley, 6-3, sr., 21.9; Terry Rozier, Shaker Heights, 6-2, sr., 25.6; Tony Farmer, Garfield Heights, 6-7, jr., 20.4; Devon Scott, Columbus Northland, 6-8, sr., 17.2

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The Columbus Dispatch All-Metro Team (Steve Blackledge, The Columbus Dispatch - March 24, 2012)

Members of the Dispatch All-Metro boys basketball team, from left:
co-Player of the Year Jalen Robinson, Northland; Coach of the Year
Jerry Francis, Pickerington Central; co-Player of the Year Caris LeVert,
Pickerington Central; Isaac McGlone, Bloom Carroll; Jordan Potts,
Northland; and Mike Wells, Delaware.

"I see myself playing the three spot (small forward) at Dayton," said Robinson, "so I spent most of the offseason focusing on my foot speed, shooting, dribbling and mobility. That applies to guarding (small forwards), and having another big guy like Devon Scott as a teammate allowed me to play my natural position quite a bit."

A Mr. Basketball finalist, Robinson averaged 18.5 points, 11 rebounds, and three blocked shots for the Vikings, who were the champions in the Associated Press State Poll. He also shot 55 percent from the field.

"Jalen could have put up even more impressive stats if I hadn’t taken him out of a lot of blowouts," coach Sean Taylor said.

"What I liked most about Jalen’s season was that he was very consistent. We always knew what we were getting out of him. He could be a quiet assassin out there at times."

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Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Roster - Updated July 27, 2011

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    Player            Class      Pos.  Height  Weight    Hometown
      
 1. Matt Kavanaugh    Senior      C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  Centerville, OH
 2. Alex Gavrilovic   Sophomore   C    6'-9"   230 lbs.  Strasbourg, France

 3. Josh Benson       RS Senior  PF    6'-9"   223 lbs.  Dayton, OH
 4. Devon Scott       Freshman   PF    6'-8"   215 lbs.  Columbus, OH

 5. Jalen Robinson    Freshman   CF    6'-8"   220 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 6. Devin Oliver      Junior     CF    6'-7"   200 lbs.  Kalamazoo, MI

 7. Matt Derenbecker  RS Soph. SF/SG   6'-7"   185 lbs.  Metairie, LA
 8. Dyshawn Pierre    Fresh.   SF/SG   6'-6"   210 lbs.  Whitby, Ontario 

 9. Jordan Sibert     RS Soph.   SG    6'-4"   185 lbs.  Cincinnati, OH (Will sit out 2012-13 season.)
10. Vee Sanford       RS Junior  CG    6'-3"   180 lbs.  Lexington, KY  

11. Kevin Dillard     RS Senior  PG    6'-0"   170 lbs.  Homewood, IL 
12. Khari Price       Freshman   PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  Slidell, LA

Scholarships presently available for HS Class of 2012 players or transfers = 1.

Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Numeric Roster

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No. Player

 0  Khari Price
 1  Kevin Dillard
 2  Josh Benson  
 3  Mitch Asmus  (walk-on) 
 5  Devin Oliver 

12  Jalen Robinson
15  Matt Derenbecker 

21  Dyshawn Pierre
23  Brian Vonderhaar  (walk-on)
25  Alex Gavrilovic 

35  Matt Kavanaugh 

40  Devon Scott
42  Dennis Williams  (walk-on)
43  Vee Sanford 
--  Jordan Sibert  (Will sit out 2012-13 season.)

Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Roster

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    Player            Class      Pos.  Height  Weight    Hometown
      
 1. Matt Kavanaugh    Senior      C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  Centerville, OH
 2. Alex Gavrilovic   Sophomore   C    6'-9"   246 lbs.  Strasbourg, France

 3. Jalen Robinson    Freshman  PF/C   6'-9"   243 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 4. Devon Scott       Freshman  PF/C   6'-9"   215 lbs.  Columbus, OH
 5. Josh Benson       RS Senior  PF    6'-9"   228 lbs.  Dayton, OH

 6. Devin Oliver      Junior     CF    6'-7"   225 lbs.  Kalamazoo, MI

 7. Matt Derenbecker  RS Soph. SF/SG   6'-7"   215 lbs.  Metairie, LA
 8. Dyshawn Pierre    Fresh.   SF/SG   6'-6"   210 lbs.  Whitby, Ontario 

 9. Jordan Sibert     RS Soph.   SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  Cincinnati, OH (Will sit out 2012-13 season.)
10. Vee Sanford       RS Junior  CG    6'-3"   192 lbs.  Lexington, KY  

11. Kevin Dillard     RS Senior  PG    6'-0"   182 lbs.  Homewood, IL 
12. Khari Price       Freshman   PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  Slidell, LA

Scholarships presently available for a Spring 2013 Division I transfer = 1.

Possible 2012-13 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.)

C: Matt Kavanaugh, Alex Gavrilovic, Jalen Robinson, and Devon Scott.

PF: Josh Benson, Devon Scott, Jalen Robinson, and Alex Gavrilovic.

SF: Matt Derenbecker, Devin Oliver, and Dyshawn Pierre.

SG: Vee Sanford, Dyshawn Pierre, and Matt Derenbecker.

PG: Kevin Dillard, Khari Price, and Vee Sanford.

* Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position.

Dayton Flyers 5-Year Roster Sorted By Graduating Class

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Seniors - UD Class of 2013 

1. Josh Benson       PF    6'-9"   228 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 rebounds)*
2. Matt Kavanaugh     C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds)
3. Kevin Dillard     PG    6'-0"   182 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists)
 * Josh Benson missed all 16 A10 games, the A10 Tournament, and the NIT due to a knee injury.    

Juniors - UD Class of 2014

1. Devin Oliver      CF    6'-7"   225 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.9 points and 5.0 rebounds)
2. Vee Sanford       CG    6'-3"   196 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)

Sophomores - UD Class of 2015

1. Alex Gavrilovic    C    6'-9"   246 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  4.0 points and 2.8 rebounds)
2. Matt Derenbecker SF/SG  6'-7"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: sat out transfer year)
3. Jordan Sibert     SG    6'-4"   187 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged  3.0 points and 1.4 rebounds) 
 
Freshmen - UD Class of 2016

1. Devon Scott      PF/C   6'-9"   215 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds)   
2. Jalen Robinson   PF/C   6'-9"   243 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds)
3. Dyshawn Pierre   SF/SG  6'-6"   210 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 20+ points and 10+ rebounds)
4. Khari Price       PG    5'-11"  170 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 5.6 assists)

High School Seniors - UD Class of 2017

1. Kyle Davis        CG    6'-1"   165 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 25 points and 7 assists) 
2. Dayshon Smith     CG    6'-2"   170 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged 17 points and 6 assists)
3. Kendall Pollard   SF    6'-6"   185 lbs.  (2011-12: averaged ?? points and ?? rebounds)

Dayton Flyers 2011-12 Sortable Stats (Yahoo!)

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A couple national previews out today - Post # 3 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - May 23, 2012)

2012/13 Rankings (way early I know) - Post # 181 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - July 28, 2012)

2012/13 Rankings (way early I know) - Post # 223 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - August 11, 2012)

ESPN's A-10 Summer Shootaround - Post # 12 (xavierhoops, Atlantic 10 MB - July 30, 2012)

College Madness Top 144 Preview - Post # 17 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - August 11, 2012)

Muddy Waters · 03-18-2012, 01:01 PM

Previously posted:

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Originally Posted by Muddy Waters on February 16, 2012

Re: Dayton Recruiting - Post # 2156

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Originally Posted by TA111

I have seen him [Matt Derenbecker] play in the red/blue scrimmage and I don't think he has the quicks to play the 2.

He can really stroke it and can take it to the hole.

My wife and I came away from the scrimmage commenting on how Derenbecker and Sanford were the best players on the floor.

TA111,

I have heard the same thing from a number of reputable sources (the same ones who said that Kevin Dillard was a better PG than Juwan Staten a year ago).

Archie will start his 5 best players if possible, who by all accounts appear to be:

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Player            Class      Pos.  Height  Weight    Hometown
      
Matt Kavanaugh    Senior      C    6'-9"   250 lbs.  Centerville, OH

Josh Benson       RS Senior  PF    6'-9"   223 lbs.  Dayton, OH

Matt Derenbecker  RS Soph.   SF    6'-7"   185 lbs.  Metairie, LA

Vee Sanford       RS Junior  CG    6'-3"   180 lbs.  Lexington, KY  

Kevin Dillard     RS Senior  PG    6'-0"   170 lbs.  Homewood, IL

It is fortunate for the Flyers that the apparent 5 best players on next season's team play 5 different positions.

Derenbecker, Sanford, and Dillard can all hit perimeter shots and drive to the hoop.

On paper, next season's starting line-up looks to be an improvement over this season's starting line-up, and if Archie can sign a quality SG or two in the spring, depth at any position should not be an issue next season.

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis

Sanford was very creative driving to the bucket and could hang in the air longer than his defenders, creating some easy lay-ins.

But I am not sure what kind of perimeter skills he may or may not have.

Vee Sanford (DaytonFlyers Profile)

Biography:

Sanford, a 6-foot-3 guard from Lexington, Ky., will have two seasons of eligibility remaining after sitting out the 2011-12 season due to NCAA transfer rules.

At Georgetown:

At Georgetown, Sanford played in 27 games in both his freshman and sophomore years. Averaging 6.6 minutes a game this past season, he averaged 2.4 points per game, and shot .522 (24-46) from the field, .600 (12-20) from three-point range, and 1.000 (6-6 from the line).

As a freshman, he averaged 1.2 points a game, but got to the line 17 times, making 14 freebies.

High School:

At Lexington Catholic High School, Sanford averaged 22.4 points, 4.8 rebounds, 2.5 steals and 2.4 assists a game as a senior and was selected First Team All-Kentucky by the Louisville to The Courier-Journal. A McDonald's All-American nominee, he was ranked 30th nationally by Scout.com for point guards. Sanford completed his high school career by playing in the Kentucky/Indiana All-Stars Basketball Classic.

jdm2000 · 03-18-2012, 01:14 PM

Any talk of transfers out of the program? I know Hill didn't play a ton of time, and there will be even more competition for minutes next year.

(Not trolling--normal part of the process at this level.)

Flyer75 · 03-18-2012, 01:21 PM

jdm, IF there is a transfer it will be Hill. I know he's not been happy (more like down in the dumps I should say) at times during the season based on his Twitter comments. IF he does transfer, that leaves 3 open schollie and I would expect a SG, a transfer (Siebert???) and for Archie to pocket the third. At this point, I don't think anyone knows.

AdamtheFlyer · 03-18-2012, 01:34 PM

Yeah, I would say Hill is 50/50 at best. Maybe more like 65/35 leaving, and I'm not sure it will be entirely his decision. Sometimes things just don't work out. The biggest impact he'll ever have at UD is on the APR, not the court. I've heard he really wants the engineering degree, so it wouldn't shock me if he just becomes a regular student or finds a D2 program at a school with a solid engineering department.

I definitely think we'll see a shooting guard added, be it a freshman or a JUCO. I'm guessing Isaiah Cousins is the top target, but he just got a ton of new offers, including UConn, so who knows where that stands. I know Archie is also in on Kedar Edwards and a kid out of Chicago, so there are options.

A transfer incoming to redshirt next year makes sense as well. The Sibert chatter is there, and also Trey Ziegler could be available after his dad was fired, so the transfer market could be active.

Muddy Waters · 04-03-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Flyer75 on March 18, 2012

2012-2013 Dayton Flyers - Post # 1

Time to put the other thread to bed ... turn to next season.

Indeed. Reposted from the 2011-12 Dayton Flyers thread:

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Originally Posted by Flyer75 on April 2, 2012

Re: 2011-12 Dayton Flyers - Post # 377

Couple of thoughts...One, just to reiterate what ATF said about Dillard. You have a PG like that, you can hide some deficiencies and with the way he can control the game flow, you'll be in allot of games.

Two, about Benson. Who knows? His injury wasn't a devastating injury as far as knee injuries go. It wasn't close to being as bad as what Lowery's was in his junior year and he was really never the same. From what I gather, Benson is already back to riding a bike and doing drills. He probably only has to get over the mental aspect of it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he only tore one ligament.

On the Big Frog...he's serviceable. The good news is this year, if he can't cut it, there are other options in Scott and Robinson.

Not sure what next year's team will ultimately do or where they will end up but I gotta think they will be predicted in the Top 4 of the league. There's allot of known quantities on next years team and give me a Dillard at the QB position all week long and I'll take my chances.

Free throw shooting...I'm not sure exactly why we were better this year. But we weren't just better then last year, we were light years better. Some of that is like ATF said, player subtraction/addition but I'm not sold that it was just that. One thing we didn't have this year is articles in the DDN and all over ESPN on our offseason workouts at Drakes Gym, either boxing or trying arm-bars on each other. I'd like to think that maybe, just maybe, we spent a little bit more time practicing basketball fundamentals rather then training for a date with Bones Jones.

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis on April 2, 2012

Re: 2011-12 Dayton Flyers - Post # 382

I think Gavrilovic is a nice get for us at center. I was pleasantly suprised with him. I think he has much more defensive potential than Kavanaugh. He isn't bad offensively either. He has a nice half hook shot. Kavs and Gavs are similar players and were forced to play in some tough match-ups with Benson down. I expect to have more athletic options when the situation demands it next year.

I think Dillard gets better if he doesn't have to play conservative to stay in 90% of our pg minutes. That is where I have to hope that Jevon Thomas is worthy of playing that support role without a big drop off in being able to run the team.

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Originally Posted by Flyer75 on April 2, 2012

Re: 2011-12 Dayton Flyers - Post # 383

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Originally Posted by X Factor

I'll be shocked if Benson is ready to go by the start of next season.

I just don't see him being ready to get 25-30 minutes right from the get go.

We'll see...he also injured his knee a couple of weeks (maybe even a month) sooner then Lowery did a few years back...Benson did it in the game right before A10 play, Lowery during A10 play.

The situation next year isn't nearly as dire even if he's only 70-80% then what it was this past year. Oliver proved he's a capable 4 (9.3 and 7.3 in his last 8 games of the year), although I'd much prefer Benson in that role, allowing Oliver to play the 3 and 4. Scott and/or Robinson can play the 4 next year. Lots of options for Archie next year if so and so isn't ready to go. More options if someone has a Paul Williams like slump for 4-5 games.

Flyer75 and AdamtheRaider – please refer to Alex Gavrilovic as "Alex" or "AG", as "the Big Frog" is not a complimentary reference to a Dayton Flyers basketball player.

I would expect Xavier fans to refer to Alex as "the Big Frog", but expect better from Dayton Flyers fans.

In any event, references to Frogs should be limited to derogatory comments concerning St. Joseph’s basketball program, so as not to confuse Guster, an infrequent poster with a limited intellectual capacity.

Thank you very much.

Muddy Waters · 04-03-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FlyingElvis on April 2, 2012

Re: 2011-12 Dayton Flyers - Post # 382

I think Gavrilovic is a nice get for us at center. I was pleasantly surprised with him.

Elvis, not only do I agree with you, but so do the numbers:

Sean Finn – Stats & Game Log (StatSheet)

Kurt Huelsman – Stats & Game Log (Yahoo!)

Matt Kavanaugh – Stats & Game Log (Yahoo!)

Alex Gavrilovic – Stats & Game Log (Yahoo!)

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Freshman Year Stats:

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Flyer            Season    MPG     FG %    FT %    RPG    PPG    High Game

Sean Finn        Fresh.     4.7    41.4    53.3    1.7    1.1     7 points

Kurt Huelsman    Fresh.    18.9    47.9    56.2    3.5    3.8    10 points

Matt Kavanaugh   Fresh.     3.1    41.7    50.0    0.8    0.8     2 points  

Alex Gavrilovic  Fresh.    12.9    54.9    51.3    2.8    4.0    14 points

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Junior and Senior Year Stats:

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Flyer            Season    MPG     FG %    FT %    RPG    PPG    High Game

Sean Finn        Junior    29.3    70.7    64.3    5.3    10.0   20 points
Sean Finn        Senior    22.1    66.3    50.3    7.4    13.1   27 points

Kurt Huelsman    Junior    21.9    38.5    58.3    4.1     3.6    8 points
Kurt Huelsman    Senior    21.7    49.6    60.7    4.4     4.6   13 points

Matt Kavanaugh   Junior    23.9    54.6    80.7    5.9     9.0   23 points

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Of the four centers listed above, only Alex Gavrilovic averaged more than 3.8 PPG and shot better than 48 % from the field as a freshman.

Gavrilovic averaged 4.0 PPG and made 54.9 % of his attempts from the field – a higher FG percentage than Kurt Huelsman ever had, and marginally better than Matt Kavanaugh’s 54.6 % FG percentage this season.

Based on what I have seen this season and the numbers above, I think Gavrilovic is an excellent get for us at center, and I'm looking forward to seeing him devlop and improve in the seasons ahead.

A10fan2 · 04-03-2012, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muddy Waters

I would expect Xavier fans to refer to Alex as "the Big Frog", but expect better from Dayton Flyers fans.

X fans will refer to him as BWS XVI.

03-18-2012, 07:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,833 Rep Power: 37278	2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Time to put the other thread to bed...turn to next season. Article in DDN today about building around Dillard next season. He's coming off a 13.3 and 6.0 season and looks to be the number #1 or #2 (Chaz Williams being the other) PG in the league next year. http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...r-1345668.html “Kevin Dillard, with a great offseason, will be able to hold his own against any guard in the country next year,” Miller said. And the Flyers, who exceeded expectations by going 20-13 and reaching the postseason for the fifth straight year, likely will be able to surround him with an even better supporting cast. Center Matt Kavanaugh, though limited defensively, had a breakout junior season. He averaged 9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds and was the only player in the league in the top 10 in field-goal percentage (54.6) and foul shooting (80.7). Sophomore wing Devin Oliver averaged 9.6 points and 7.4 rebounds in a seven-game stint as a starter at the end of the season. And junior forward Josh Benson, who suffered a season-ending knee injury Dec. 30, averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 boards before being sidelined and is expected to make a full recovery. “Vee to me is the most talented, gifted scorer on our team,” Miller said. “One of the things I look forward to is Vee making plays for others and himself where Kevin isn’t involved with every play. ... Both Matt and Vee both bring us an added dimension in scoring. The Flyers finished 9-7 in the A-10 even without Benson, ending up in a tie for fifth. In six previous seasons, they produced a winning league record just once, and their average finish in that span was seventh. “I thought our kids did an amazing job being coachable,” Miller said. “And I think we did have a really good year. It could have gone in a lot of different directions at different times. “When we lost Josh ... that was a make-or-break deal for our team. I give them credit for their character level, and I thought our staff did a nice job to continue to morph our team in different ways to be successful.”

03-18-2012, 07:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,833 Rep Power: 37278	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Article on the three players with signed LOI for next year: Robinson, Scott, and Thomas. http://m.daytondailynews.com/dayton/...l=true#display Thomas, a 5-foot-11 New York City native who plays at Quality Education Academy in North Carolina, has averaged 16 points and 12 assists per game while leading his team to a 22-6 record against top national competition. Robinson and Scott are 6-foot-8 Columbus Northland teammates who have had snippets of their above-the-rim play posted on the Internet. Robinson was a finalist for the Ohio Mr. Basketball Award after averaging 19 points, 11 rebounds and three blocks, while Scott averaged 17.5 points and 11.5 boards." IMO, the nice thing about all 3 is that none will have to start. All are backups this year that provide much needed depth to our woeful bench of this past season. All 3 should contribute though, especially one (not sure which yet) of the Northland players and Thomas who will backup Dillard.

03-18-2012, 08:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
FlyersandTEA4LIFE 6th Man Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 423 Rep Power: 1345	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Ud easily has the most talent in the league next year and will win the a10 by three games. They will.sweep x.next year. They will be a 2-3 seed in the ncaa tourney en route to an elite 8/final 4 __________________ Dayton will beat Xavier in Cincinnati in 2014. Dayton will beat Xavier in Dayton in 2013. Dayton will beat Xavier in Brooklyn in 2013.

03-18-2012, 09:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
FLYERFORGINGRICH Rookie Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Indeed. EGGS will get a road game in the CBI if lucky. UD is going to run this league for years to come, while Christina Mackey drives EGGS into the Ohio River.

03-18-2012, 10:28 AM	#5 (permalink)
z8-Minutemen Player Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 631 Rep Power: 153363	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers ................ __________________ Dallas Cowboys- 5 super bowls and counting... UMass Minutemen- 8 tournament appearances, 1 final four. Alumni: Julius 'Dr. J' Erving, Marcus Camby Northeastern Huskies- 7 tournament appearances. Alumni: Reggie Lewis, Jose Juan 'JJ' Barea

03-18-2012, 12:26 PM	#7 (permalink)
AdamtheFlyer Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,819 Rep Power: 157851	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers I think Vee Sanford will make an immediate major impact. From everything I hear, the guy just gets buckets. There's a very real chance UD will have the best starting backcourt in the A10 next year. Derenbecker is a guy who doesn't do anything great, but is above average in many areas. A 6'7" SF that can hit the three is a matchup nightmare in the A10. I like having a true PG to back up Dillard, taking pressure off of him. Devin Oliver grew so much as a player over the season. With a good summer, he can take another major leap forward. To me, he is the major key going into next year. If he puts the work in on his jumper and ball handling, this is a team that could have as many as 6 guys capable of scoring 20 in a given night. That is something UD hasn't had in a long time. They would be a scouting nightmare. Knee injuries aren't all that scary anymore, so I'm not worried about Benson. He'll be ready to go. With him, Kavanaugh and Gavrilovic you return essentially 24 points and 14 boards a game inside, and add two good freshmen for depth. That's not even accounting for the possibility that one or both freshman are ready to contribute more than the typical freshman, or growth from the returning players. I like the construction of the roster, and a player or two may still be added. The strengths are still to be determined beyond Dillard, but I don't see any glaring weaknesses. Way too early for specific predictions, but I feel good. Expectations should be to compete for an A10 title and make the NCAA. I think both are very doable. __________________ Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism.

03-18-2012, 01:00 PM	#8 (permalink)
Muddy Waters All-Star Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Westmont Illinois Cemetery Age: 98 Posts: 5,233 Rep Power: 64500	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers AP All-Ohio Division I Boys Basketball Honors (Cleveland Plain Dealer - March 19, 2012) COLUMBUS, Ohio – The 2011-2012 Associated Press Division I boys All-Ohio high school basketball teams, based on the recommendations of a state media panel: FIRST TEAM Jalen Robinson, Columbus Northland, 6-8, sr., 19.1; Josh Lemons, Cincinnati La Salle, 5-11, sr., 18.0; Marc Loving, Toledo St. John's, 6-8, jr., 22.9; Justin Fritts, Mentor, 6-2, sr., 28.1; David Walker, Stow, 6-7, sr., 25.6 PLAYERS OF THE YEAR: Jalen Robinson, Columbus Northland; Marc Loving, Toledo St. John's; Justin Fritts, Mentor. SECOND TEAM Caris LeVert, Pickerington Central, 6-4, sr., 18.4; Nigel Hayes, Toledo Whitmer, 6-7, jr., 13.8; Myles Hamilton, St. Edward, 6-1, sr., 16.1; Devaugntah Williams, Canton McKinley, 6-3, sr., 21.9; Terry Rozier, Shaker Heights, 6-2, sr., 25.6; Tony Farmer, Garfield Heights, 6-7, jr., 20.4; Devon Scott, Columbus Northland, 6-8, sr., 17.2 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Columbus Dispatch All-Metro Team (Steve Blackledge, The Columbus Dispatch - March 24, 2012) Members of the Dispatch All-Metro boys basketball team, from left: co-Player of the Year Jalen Robinson, Northland; Coach of the Year Jerry Francis, Pickerington Central; co-Player of the Year Caris LeVert, Pickerington Central; Isaac McGlone, Bloom Carroll; Jordan Potts, Northland; and Mike Wells, Delaware. "I see myself playing the three spot (small forward) at Dayton," said Robinson, "so I spent most of the offseason focusing on my foot speed, shooting, dribbling and mobility. That applies to guarding (small forwards), and having another big guy like Devon Scott as a teammate allowed me to play my natural position quite a bit." A Mr. Basketball finalist, Robinson averaged 18.5 points, 11 rebounds, and three blocked shots for the Vikings, who were the champions in the Associated Press State Poll. He also shot 55 percent from the field. "Jalen could have put up even more impressive stats if I hadn’t taken him out of a lot of blowouts," coach Sean Taylor said. "What I liked most about Jalen’s season was that he was very consistent. We always knew what we were getting out of him. He could be a quiet assassin out there at times." ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Roster - Updated July 27, 2011 Code: Player Class Pos. Height Weight Hometown 1. Matt Kavanaugh Senior C 6'-9" 250 lbs. Centerville, OH 2. Alex Gavrilovic Sophomore C 6'-9" 230 lbs. Strasbourg, France 3. Josh Benson RS Senior PF 6'-9" 223 lbs. Dayton, OH 4. Devon Scott Freshman PF 6'-8" 215 lbs. Columbus, OH 5. Jalen Robinson Freshman CF 6'-8" 220 lbs. Columbus, OH 6. Devin Oliver Junior CF 6'-7" 200 lbs. Kalamazoo, MI 7. Matt Derenbecker RS Soph. SF/SG 6'-7" 185 lbs. Metairie, LA 8. Dyshawn Pierre Fresh. SF/SG 6'-6" 210 lbs. Whitby, Ontario 9. Jordan Sibert RS Soph. SG 6'-4" 185 lbs. Cincinnati, OH (Will sit out 2012-13 season.) 10. Vee Sanford RS Junior CG 6'-3" 180 lbs. Lexington, KY 11. Kevin Dillard RS Senior PG 6'-0" 170 lbs. Homewood, IL 12. Khari Price Freshman PG 5'-11" 170 lbs. Slidell, LA Scholarships presently available for HS Class of 2012 players or transfers = 1. Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Numeric Roster Code: No. Player 0 Khari Price 1 Kevin Dillard 2 Josh Benson 3 Mitch Asmus (walk-on) 5 Devin Oliver 12 Jalen Robinson 15 Matt Derenbecker 21 Dyshawn Pierre 23 Brian Vonderhaar (walk-on) 25 Alex Gavrilovic 35 Matt Kavanaugh 40 Devon Scott 42 Dennis Williams (walk-on) 43 Vee Sanford -- Jordan Sibert (Will sit out 2012-13 season.) Dayton Flyers 2012-13 Roster Code: Player Class Pos. Height Weight Hometown 1. Matt Kavanaugh Senior C 6'-9" 250 lbs. Centerville, OH 2. Alex Gavrilovic Sophomore C 6'-9" 246 lbs. Strasbourg, France 3. Jalen Robinson Freshman PF/C 6'-9" 243 lbs. Columbus, OH 4. Devon Scott Freshman PF/C 6'-9" 215 lbs. Columbus, OH 5. Josh Benson RS Senior PF 6'-9" 228 lbs. Dayton, OH 6. Devin Oliver Junior CF 6'-7" 225 lbs. Kalamazoo, MI 7. Matt Derenbecker RS Soph. SF/SG 6'-7" 215 lbs. Metairie, LA 8. Dyshawn Pierre Fresh. SF/SG 6'-6" 210 lbs. Whitby, Ontario 9. Jordan Sibert RS Soph. SG 6'-4" 187 lbs. Cincinnati, OH (Will sit out 2012-13 season.) 10. Vee Sanford RS Junior CG 6'-3" 192 lbs. Lexington, KY 11. Kevin Dillard RS Senior PG 6'-0" 182 lbs. Homewood, IL 12. Khari Price Freshman PG 5'-11" 170 lbs. Slidell, LA Scholarships presently available for a Spring 2013 Division I transfer = 1. Possible 2012-13 Depth Chart* (Position: starter, first off the bench at each position.) C: Matt Kavanaugh, Alex Gavrilovic, Jalen Robinson, and Devon Scott. PF: Josh Benson, Devon Scott, Jalen Robinson, and Alex Gavrilovic. SF: Matt Derenbecker, Devin Oliver, and Dyshawn Pierre. SG: Vee Sanford, Dyshawn Pierre, and Matt Derenbecker. PG: Kevin Dillard, Khari Price, and Vee Sanford. * Reserve roles will likely vary, depending on heights and strengths of opponents' players at each position. Dayton Flyers 5-Year Roster Sorted By Graduating Class Code: Seniors - UD Class of 2013 1. Josh Benson PF 6'-9" 228 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 10.9 points and 5.2 rebounds)* 2. Matt Kavanaugh C 6'-9" 250 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 9.0 points and 5.9 rebounds) 3. Kevin Dillard PG 6'-0" 182 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 13.3 points and 6.0 assists) * Josh Benson missed all 16 A10 games, the A10 Tournament, and the NIT due to a knee injury. Juniors - UD Class of 2014 1. Devin Oliver CF 6'-7" 225 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 4.9 points and 5.0 rebounds) 2. Vee Sanford CG 6'-3" 196 lbs. (2011-12: sat out transfer year) Sophomores - UD Class of 2015 1. Alex Gavrilovic C 6'-9" 246 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 4.0 points and 2.8 rebounds) 2. Matt Derenbecker SF/SG 6'-7" 215 lbs. (2011-12: sat out transfer year) 3. Jordan Sibert SG 6'-4" 187 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 3.0 points and 1.4 rebounds) Freshmen - UD Class of 2016 1. Devon Scott PF/C 6'-9" 215 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 12 rebounds) 2. Jalen Robinson PF/C 6'-9" 243 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 19 points and 11 rebounds) 3. Dyshawn Pierre SF/SG 6'-6" 210 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 20+ points and 10+ rebounds) 4. Khari Price PG 5'-11" 170 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 18 points and 5.6 assists) High School Seniors - UD Class of 2017 1. Kyle Davis CG 6'-1" 165 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 25 points and 7 assists) 2. Dayshon Smith CG 6'-2" 170 lbs. (2011-12: averaged 17 points and 6 assists) 3. Kendall Pollard SF 6'-6" 185 lbs. (2011-12: averaged ?? points and ?? rebounds) Dayton Flyers 2011-12 Sortable Stats (Yahoo!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A couple national previews out today - Post # 3 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - May 23, 2012) 2012/13 Rankings (way early I know) - Post # 181 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - July 28, 2012) 2012/13 Rankings (way early I know) - Post # 223 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - August 11, 2012) ESPN's A-10 Summer Shootaround - Post # 12 (xavierhoops, Atlantic 10 MB - July 30, 2012) College Madness Top 144 Preview - Post # 17 (Muddy Waters, Atlantic 10 MB - August 11, 2012) __________________ BIG EAST CONFERENCE IN 2014-15 Butler • Creighton • Dayton • DePaul • Georgetown • Marquette Providence • Seton Hall • St. John’s • Saint Louis • Villanova • Xavier Last edited by Muddy Waters; 10-20-2012 at 08:31 AM.

03-18-2012, 01:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
jdm2000 Player Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 541 Rep Power: 21705	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Any talk of transfers out of the program? I know Hill didn't play a ton of time, and there will be even more competition for minutes next year. (Not trolling--normal part of the process at this level.)

03-18-2012, 01:21 PM	#11 (permalink)
Flyer75 Star Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,833 Rep Power: 37278	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers jdm, IF there is a transfer it will be Hill. I know he's not been happy (more like down in the dumps I should say) at times during the season based on his Twitter comments. IF he does transfer, that leaves 3 open schollie and I would expect a SG, a transfer (Siebert???) and for Archie to pocket the third. At this point, I don't think anyone knows.

03-18-2012, 01:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
AdamtheFlyer Star Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,819 Rep Power: 157851	Re: 2012-2013 Dayton Flyers Yeah, I would say Hill is 50/50 at best. Maybe more like 65/35 leaving, and I'm not sure it will be entirely his decision. Sometimes things just don't work out. The biggest impact he'll ever have at UD is on the APR, not the court. I've heard he really wants the engineering degree, so it wouldn't shock me if he just becomes a regular student or finds a D2 program at a school with a solid engineering department. I definitely think we'll see a shooting guard added, be it a freshman or a JUCO. I'm guessing Isaiah Cousins is the top target, but he just got a ton of new offers, including UConn, so who knows where that stands. I know Archie is also in on Kedar Edwards and a kid out of Chicago, so there are options. A transfer incoming to redshirt next year makes sense as well. The Sibert chatter is there, and also Trey Ziegler could be available after his dad was fired, so the transfer market could be active. __________________ Sure, I've been called a xenophobe, but the truth is, I'm not. I honestly just feel that America is the best country and the other countries aren't as good. That used to be called patriotism. Last edited by AdamtheFlyer; 03-18-2012 at 01:43 PM.

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